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Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:30 am
by IWOODLOVETT
Surely this guy is the perfect cover for Ben Mee?

An experienced leader and organiser, left footed, brave, quicker than the other options, understands the left back role and would compliment the Taylor/McNeil partnership.

The trouble with playing our other current CH options is that they are all right footed and Tarks is not as effective on the left.

I remember Ward filling in that position and playing a blinder - similar player and worth a shout?

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:32 am
by Burnley1989
Do like him but I’d sooner he be cover for our first 11 that can cover loads of positions.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:38 am
by SkiptonClaret
Erik’s the reason I don’t see the desperate need to strengthen in a number of positions. Brilliant.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:39 am
by IWOODLOVETT
Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:32 am
Do like him but I’d sooner he be cover for our first 11 that can cover loads of positions.
Would still have that option when Mee returns - or bring on Long and move EP forward mid-game.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:46 am
by superdimitri
He can play there but Dyche seems to think Taylor is better suited if pre season is anything to go by.

I'm not sure he's quicker though. He's definitely slower than Taylor, Dunne and Long. Perhaps no slower than Mee or Tarkowski though.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:46 am
by Zlatan
SkiptonClaret wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:38 am
Erik’s the reason I don’t see the desperate need to strengthen in a number of positions. Brilliant.
If he gets injured... who covers him...?

;)

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:48 am
by IWOODLOVETT
Zlatan wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:46 am
If he gets injured... who covers him...?

;)
Where’s Graham Branch when you need him ??

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:06 am
by Woodleyclaret
I'd play Eric at left back put Charlie in front wide left,with instructions to push forward and attack .
Dwight I'd play on the right as hes been successful in this role

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:29 am
by CaptJohn
Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:06 am
I'd play Eric at left back put Charlie in front wide left,with instructions to push forward and attack .
Dwight I'd play on the right as hes been successful in this role
I agree Neil. Solves a lot of issues and really makes us solid defensively both left and right as we know Dwight is OK tracking back.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:32 am
by burnleymik
I remember Pieters being a bit vulnerable defensively, when he had his run in the team and that is why so many were calling for Taylor to come back in.

That said his absolute professionalism to play anywhere on the pitch he has been needed is brilliant. Always gives you 100%.

I'd rather try Tarks and Dunne at CB.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:40 am
by MACCA
Boo, i was hoping we had signalled our intent for him to become our new RW, with a new 3 year deal being signed.

Come on Mike let's get these players tied down now

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:52 am
by nil_desperandum
For all his attributes, and considering his size, I don't think that Pieters is good enough in the air to be a PL Centre Back.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:57 am
by warksclaret
Taylor is currently our standout player-needs to stay at LB when playing PL teams. Pieters was bought as LB cover and can also play wide left midfield at a push, or in an emergency

He is not a CH, but maybe playing 3 at the back he could play left of the 3 , but SD never plays that system. Think he did this for Stoke.He has no CH experience and is no where close to Mee , Tarks,Dunne or Long at heading, and sadly is slower than all four.

He will give you 100% wherever you play him but playing both him and McNeil in midfield, where we are already weak, just does not work. We now have the versatility of Brownhill and the emergence of Benson,plus the arrival of Stephens so MP should revert to being LB cover

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:08 am
by Boss Hogg
Taylor is that good at left back now why would you move him ? Keep the best players in their best positions. Pieters is a good player though. I prefer him wide than putting Brownhill wide.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:09 am
by ksrclaret
It's Erik.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:41 am
by superdimitri
Took me a few seconds to find this thread. Why can't others do the same? A million new threads created each time someone wants to discuss a player.

Anyway, I digress. Thought Pieters was excellent tonight and particularly loved his challenge on Salah around the 85th minute. It was the kind of challenge that sends a message. Salah spent a good minute on the floor after.

Taylor gets a lot of credit and deservedly too but Pieters is some ways is still the better player imo.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:12 am
by Quicknick
Tremendous signing.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:40 am
by Buxtonclaret
Been invaluable.
Plays anywhere he's asked to.
When he came on last night, he was at them first off. Played well.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:59 pm
by Chester Perry
IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:48 am
Where’s Graham Branch when you need him ??
he was on comms cam last night looking very well indeed

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:04 pm
by martin_p
Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:59 pm
he was on comms cam last night looking very well indeed
I saw him just before Xmas when I was talking my son to his under sevens football training. Made sure he saw my son’s full claret strip and we exchanged a cheery hello. I think coaching children is what he does now, although unfortunately not my son.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:35 pm
by Tribesmen
Any news on Charlie ?

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:39 pm
by Rileybobs
superdimitri wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:41 am
Took me a few seconds to find this thread. Why can't others do the same? A million new threads created each time someone wants to discuss a player.

Anyway, I digress. Thought Pieters was excellent tonight and particularly loved his challenge on Salah around the 85th minute. It was the kind of challenge that sends a message. Salah spent a good minute on the floor after.

Taylor gets a lot of credit and deservedly too but Pieters is some ways is still the better player imo.
Whilst I quite like the idea of having an ongoing thread for each of our players, it may be confusing for some people to click unwittingly on a months-old thread after a game to read totally irrelevant comments.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:15 pm
by IanMcL
Erik Pieters is a superb professional footballer, with great heart and commitment. He is the one bombing forward, at the death, if we are one down.

Against Liverpool he came on against Salah and won.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:19 pm
by Hibsclaret
Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:39 pm
it may be confusing for some people to click unwittingly on a months-old thread after a game to read totally irrelevant comments.
Unfortunately on here you can click on any thread and read totally irrelevant comments. In fact some of the thread titles are irrelevant to start with.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:53 pm
by superdimitri
Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:39 pm
Whilst I quite like the idea of having an ongoing thread for each of our players, it may be confusing for some people to click unwittingly on a months-old thread after a game to read totally irrelevant comments.
I posted it a while back but its basic forum etiquette, you search for a thread before you make a new one. The forum is full of generic threads with players names, there's so many threads on the same topic its impossible to even find what's been said before about a player previously, and the same thing gets said again and again. The date is on the top of each post so it should be easy for people to see prior posts. I don't see what's so hard about searching for a previously topic by players names. Some people do it, so everyone can.
Hibsclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:19 pm
Unfortunately on here you can click on any thread and read totally irrelevant comments. In fact some of the thread titles are irrelevant to start with.
You mean the like thread titles that are made and start like this....

...and end like this in the message body?

Its awful, it makes the place look amateur compared to most forums.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:45 pm
by Rileybobs
superdimitri wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:53 pm
I posted it a while back but its basic forum etiquette, you search for a thread before you make a new one. The forum is full of generic threads with players names, there's so many threads on the same topic its impossible to even find what's been said before about a player previously, and the same thing gets said again and again. The date is on the top of each post so it should be easy for people to see prior posts. I don't see what's so hard about searching for a previously topic by players names. Some people do it, so everyone can.

You mean the like thread titles that are made and start like this....

...and end like this in the message body?

Its awful, it makes the place look amateur compared to most forums.
Like I say, I’d have no problem with it - it’s a decent idea. But I can see why some people might find it difficult. If the thread was really long it may also be confusing for some people to navigate to the point when the thread had been most recently when the thread was most recently resurrected.

The difference between Burnley/football and the subject matter some of the other forums you frequent may be the constantly evolving nature of the topics. So the comments at the beginning of this thread are relating to Pieters filling in for Mee, which is now a totally redundant subject matter. I think you mentioned you moderate A/V forums - in which case I can see the benefit of only having one thread to discuss a particular model of television for example.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:34 am
by superdimitri
Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:45 pm
Like I say, I’d have no problem with it - it’s a decent idea. But I can see why some people might find it difficult. If the thread was really long it may also be confusing for some people to navigate to the point when the thread had been most recently when the thread was most recently resurrected.

The difference between Burnley/football and the subject matter some of the other forums you frequent may be the constantly evolving nature of the topics. So the comments at the beginning of this thread are relating to Pieters filling in for Mee, which is now a totally redundant subject matter. I think you mentioned you moderate A/V forums - in which case I can see the benefit of only having one thread to discuss a particular model of television for example.
I know what you're saying but there's so many threads it's not possible really for there to be a considerable gap between comments if people stick to posting a single thread.

I think a thread per player is a much better idea, and one you find on other football forums too. Don't see why it can't be done here but that's totally up to what the site decides.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:37 am
by KRBFC
dependable experienced versatile good character excellent player for us is Eric

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:59 am
by Vegas Claret
Pieters has been top drawer for us, proved to be another shrewd signing

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:01 am
by Burnley1989
superdimitri wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:41 am

Taylor gets a lot of credit and deservedly too but Pieters is some ways is still the better player imo.
:o I’ve got to admit, I’m amazed at that, each to their own though.

I think he’s great cover but offers little to nothing going forward

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:09 am
by dansch
Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:01 am
:o I’ve got to admit, I’m amazed at that, each to their own though.

I think he’s great cover but offers little to nothing going forward
Agreed, Taylor is much better and pivotal to any prolonged run of form we ever have. PIeters is decent backup and never a starter with a fully fit squad (which is obviosly rare thesedays).

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:52 am
by Conroy92
superdimitri wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:53 pm
I posted it a while back but its basic forum etiquette, you search for a thread before you make a new one. The forum is full of generic threads with players names, there's so many threads on the same topic its impossible to even find what's been said before about a player previously, and the same thing gets said again and again. The date is on the top of each post so it should be easy for people to see prior posts. I don't see what's so hard about searching for a previously topic by players names. Some people do it, so everyone can.

You mean the like thread titles that are made and start like this....

...and end like this in the message body?

Its awful, it makes the place look amateur compared to most forums.
There might be a "Keiran trippier" thread that discussed his ban and betting activity, there might be a "Keiran trippier" thread that discussed signing him, two headings the same but content different. It doesn't really bother me and the mods usually do a good job of merging threads if too similar.
Ideally the threads would be named better but I'm not about to sit here and tell people they are using the message board wrong. Basic etiquette, please!

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:12 pm
by superdimitri
Conroy92 wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:52 am
There might be a "Keiran trippier" thread that discussed his ban and betting activity, there might be a "Keiran trippier" thread that discussed signing him, two headings the same but content different. It doesn't really bother me and the mods usually do a good job of merging threads if too similar.
Ideally the threads would be named better but I'm not about to sit here and tell people they are using the message board wrong. Basic etiquette, please!
I just want the forum to be a better place, its impossible to find past info on whats been said about a player now because there's so many threads opened each time. I see no reason why people can't discuss Trippiers betting under a Trippier thread.

You're right about one thing though, its up to Tony and the mods whether they want to do anything about it or not.
Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:01 am
:o I’ve got to admit, I’m amazed at that, each to their own though.

I think he’s great cover but offers little to nothing going forward
Certainly doesn't have the pace or dribbling skills that Taylor has, but Taylor's stats are pretty poor when it comes to assists. 89 games with only 3 assists. Pieters 209 with 11.

Pieters also has a better shot on him, and his crossing isn't shabby either, seen one or two more peaches from Pieters in to the box compared to Taylor.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:27 am
by superdimitri
Looked brilliant today, should have set up a goal with his marauding run forward and great assist for Wood.
He may not have the pace or dribbling skills as Taylor, but he can pick out a player in the opposing box and is astute generally in defence.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:53 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
Think he stands off his winger far too much (probably a conservative move to avoid being beaten for pace ) and allows more crosses in.
Jmho.

Re: Eric Pieters

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:19 am
by expoultryboy
I'm with Charlie ( not literally ) on pieters , he does get drawn to the middle sometimes which allows the winger far to much space . But , a great backup signing .