Kevin long

[MDWat]

The fact we’re trying to figure out who’s the better option - Kevin Long or Jimmy Dunne, for a Premier League defence, says it all. Both nowhere near the required standard (yet in Dunne’s case)

[ksrclaret]

He should be playing for Blackpool, not Burnley.
It was just about acceptable to have him as 4th choice in the championship, for him to be playing regular games for us in this league is frightening.

He is a terrible defender, he cannot actually defend very well.
He makes far too many errors and poor choices, there cannot be too many games we win when he is in the side.

Thankfully Sean knows he should be 4th choice at best, and touch wood get the funds to bring in a new 3rd choice CB.

Brilliant MACCA

[Stayingup]

We had a 15 million CB but he wouldn't sit on the bench all season and so.it blew up and he's gone. So what's the answer?

[Bin Ont Turf]

100% Play your best player in their preferred position. Not the other way

Aye, he's so used to having Ben to his left.

He kept drifting away from his position, wasn't there to win the headers that he normally does and I believe he would have cut out that Wilson goal.

[BurnleyFC]

I don’t like to single out players but it’s criminal that he’s being relied upon for anything other than the odd cameo here or there.

What a **** show our club is at the minute.

[diamondpocket]

you'd think after being on the bench and 4th choice CB that he'd kind of be chomping at the bit to be playing regularly to try and show what he's made of. That all those years extending contracts, accepting he'd be down the pecking order and waiting for his chance would mean something. I can't believe he's 30 years old, been with us for god knows how long and yet looks so out of his depth. He should know us and football inside out to be able to read a game and step up when necessary. Clearly needs to leave to do something with the rest of his career.

[snapcrackleandpop]

Stealing a living, 30 yrs old and played 174 games, says it all really about his drive and ambition.

[Boss Hogg]

Targeting of players has a long history on this board. See Hendrick.

I thought Hendricks was given more stick

[Boss Hogg]

He looks to me like a guy who can't believe he's being paid all that money and been given that job and that level of responsibility because in his heart he knows he really doesn't warrant it, especially when he looks at the players around him. It's like the young guy who was running the nuclear reactor rest at Chernobyl. Responsibility thrust upon him from above way beyond his capabilities and we know how that game ended don't we??

like the guy who was running the nuclear reactor test at Chernobyl.... post of the year !

[Boss Hogg]

Stealing a living, 30 yrs old and played 174 games, says it all really about his drive and ambition.

Cash ? Like Garlick really.

[FactualFrank]

Id fancy my chances against him and I only ever played pendle charity league

I did the 100 metres in 12.36 seconds, but somebody said we lose 0.18 mph every year after the age of 22. By my calculations... I'd still lap him!

[Marty Dobson]

Stealing a living, 30 yrs old and played 174 games, says it all really about his drive and ambition.

Gibson showed how to steal a living ..and Tarky by his display last night and his 'sore ' toe episode isn't far off it either. I don't think Kevin Long ever refused to do what the manager requested. He's not good enough but it takes 2 to sign a contract.

[MDWat]

He’s crap. Wouldn’t want him as third choice in a Championship squad.

[jrgbfc]

Would rather we went with Jimmy Dunne now. At least he has the potential to improve a bit.

[Rileybobs]

Stealing a living, 30 yrs old and played 174 games, says it all really about his drive and ambition.

What a petulant thing to say. Long comes across as thoroughly professional. He may be a little out of his depth in a Premier League defence but that’s not his fault and it’s certainly not a reason to claim he’s stealing a living.

[snapcrackleandpop]

Really, where is his ambition? When he retires do you think he will seriously he will look back on his career and think it was great.

[snapcrackleandpop]

Gibson showed how to steal a living ..and Tarky by his display last night and his 'sore ' toe episode isn't far off it either. I don't think Kevin Long ever refused to do what the manager requested. He's not good enough but it takes 2 to sign a contract.

Nobody really knows what went on with Gibson, but one thing is true and that is if Ben Mee had not refused to sign a new deal because he was expecting offers from "bigger" clubs Gibson would not have been here, he is/was far to good to be sat on the bench.

[Dinks]

Dreadful. Lightweight, bullied, poor distribution, makes our best player play out of position, as above looks like he’s amazed nothing bad has happened after every attack, heads it straight up instead of away, moves like quo from the Northampton 5 goal win in 91-92 and has that stupid flick of his hair on his forehead.

That being said for the odd game he’s a body for backup. Nothing more. He’s had enough chances to prove he can do it. I’d NEVER play him again in front of a promising kid.

Number maker upper only

Didn't take long to move on from Hendrick to someone else,what has someone's hairstyle got to do with anything about his football ability,how old are you 12?

[jojomk1]

Really, where is his ambition? When he retires do you think he will seriously he will look back on his career and think it was great.

When he looks at his bank balance - yes

[Damo]

Terrible thread

[Dinks]

Terrible thread

It wasnt that long ago that he was getting the praise,never let's us down etc etc,people on here have very short memories,u bet the same people that praised him a few short weeks ago on another thread are ripping him to pieces on this one unbelievable!

[Sammy Bubbly]

If all Footballers and Managers showed the same commitment and loyalty as Kevin Long the Game would be in a much better place. Irrespective of his ability he gives 100% every game and you can't ask for more than that. A Professional in every way in my book.

[tim_noone]

The number of times I see on this board a post that says Long never lets us down - he's as slow as a cart horse, can't turn and is so easily brushed off the ball. I'd have Dunne and Thomas ahead of him to be honest.

That says he's popular with sections of this board were all guilty at times..but if a persons got nothing good to say about anybody it's best to say Nowt!!!

[Red Fox Rocks Socks]

Didn't take long to move on from Hendrick to someone else,what has someone's hairstyle got to do with anything about his football ability,how old are you 12?

Bit of a joke that bit, you must be fun at parties.

On the Hendrick reference show me where I’ve had a go at him. Personally I was sad to see him go as I thought he did a good job tucking in on the right allowing McNeil to play higher on the left

[Dinks]

Bit of a joke that bit, you must be fun at parties.

On the Hendrick reference show me where I’ve had a go at him. Personally I was sad to see him go as I thought he did a good job tucking in on the right allowing McNeil to play higher on the left

I didnt say you personally had a go at Hendrick,I was just noting how Long has taken Hendrick's crown

[The Enclosure]

Why do "fans" need to pick on their own players all the time.We should be supporting and encouraging our players not always on their backs.
If a player is giving his best for the team he will do for me. Yes.fans are allowed opinions on players and yes be critical at times but the constant and sometimes angry criticism is just not right.
Sometimes it as though some fans are not happy unless they have a scapegoat.Eagles, Boyd.Jones,Hendrick and now Long just to name a few.Getting on the backs of players will not make them perform better..quite the reverse.
The team will need all the support we can give them this season.
Up the Clarets

[Red Fox Rocks Socks]

I didnt say you personally had a go at Hendrick,I was just noting how Long has taken Hendrick's crown

Didn’t read like that. Perhaps you need to be a bit clearer in what you’re trying to get across.....how old are you? 12?

[Dinks]

Didn’t read like that. Perhaps you need to be a bit clearer in what you’re trying to get across.....how old are you? 12?

No im 11 but talk much more sense than you

[Dinks]

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Get your hair cut Kev a guy on here thinks its affecting your performance,personally i think its lovely.

[Red Fox Rocks Socks]

No im 11 but talk much more sense than you

Could you give me some examples of this?

[Red Fox Rocks Socks]

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Get your hair cut Kev a guy on here thinks its affecting your performance,personally i think its lovely.

Can you point out where I said it contributed to his performance being worse (or indeed better). It was a off the cuff remark. The funny thing is in the post that’s upset you so much I go onto say he’s fine for a body in the squad but has had plenty of chances to nail down a regular place and failed. Time for the younger lads

[Targetman]

Really, where is his ambition? When he retires do you think he will seriously he will look back on his career and think it was great.

Where is your ambition then, is it limited to posting derogatory remarks about someone on this message board?
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[superdimitri]

Why do "fans" need to pick on their own players all the time.We should be supporting and encouraging our players not always on their backs.
If a player is giving his best for the team he will do for me. Yes.fans are allowed opinions on players and yes be critical at times but the constant and sometimes angry criticism is just not right.
Sometimes it as though some fans are not happy unless they have a scapegoat.Eagles, Boyd.Jones,Hendrick and now Long just to name a few.Getting on the backs of players will not make them perform better..quite the reverse.
The team will need all the support we can give them this season.
Up the Clarets

I think you may be mixing up critical discussion on an internet forum to those in the stands who hurl abuse or moan at players.

I've been very critical on here but it doesn't mean I don't back everyone who plays for us in games. It doesn't mean I don't want them, or Burnley to succeed.

Being critical or non-critical doesn't make you a better or worse fan. It's just a place people can discuss stuff and share opinion and has zero impact on any of our players, or the team.

Some fans want the club to do better, want us to improve on the players we have and are feeling under the weather right now with our league form. Try to see the criticism as a positive thing, and a want for us to improve rather than picking on players or the club.

We are after all all Burnley fans right? Otherwise we wouldn't be here.

[ElectroClaret]

What a petulant thing to say. Long comes across as thoroughly professional. He may be a little out of his depth in a Premier League defence but that’s not his fault and it’s certainly not a reason to claim he’s stealing a living.

Certainly thoroughly professional tonight against a world class attack. We (and he) all know he's not the best, but well done KL.

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[Tribesmen]

In one word , OUTSTANDING .

[CrosspoolClarets]

Unfortunately was the main fault for the goal, lost his man (Son) and ended up marking nobody. Jamie Carragher just criticised that defending.

BUT - did excellently after a very dodgy first minute where his error got Brownhill booked.

Look, he plays well occasionally, always tries 100%, but is nowhere near it at this level so many times will get caught out. But saying that, he wasn’t the man who gave Spurs the win today, that was Kane (world class at both endsj.

[BabylonClaret]

He played well tonight but we do need Mee back

[SalisburyClaret]

Long - nowhere near it at this level?

MoM against a world class attack - superb tonight

[Ashingtonclaret46]

Long - nowhere near it at this level?

MoM against a world class attack - superb tonight

No, no ----they have to find a scapegoat now that Hendrick has gone.
He gave his all tonight and should not have been booked just because Son kicked his foot and rolled around a lot!

[NewClaret]

Unfortunately was the main fault for the goal, lost his man (Son) and ended up marking nobody. Jamie Carragher just criticised that defending.

BUT - did excellently after a very dodgy first minute where his error got Brownhill booked.

Look, he plays well occasionally, always tries 100%, but is nowhere near it at this level so many times will get caught out. But saying that, he wasn’t the man who gave Spurs the win today, that was Kane (world class at both endsj.

Looked to be marking Dier to me. Maybe that’s the point, but Son seemed to start well behind him so not sure he was marking Son.

Either way, didn’t put a foot wrong and saved us several times.

[KateR]

Certainly thoroughly professional tonight against a world class attack. We (and he) all know he's not the best, but well done KL.

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I liked the post but would just like to echo the sentiments, he is a PL defender beyond any shadow of a doubt because he plays, plays well mostly and SD says he is and that's good enough for me.

Is he the best, no and Ben will take his place when fit but as a back up I think he is fine, acceptable and he wears a BFC shirt, well played Mr Long, well played.

[Guller Bull]

Do you know, tonight was the night when I stopped worrying about Kev Long.

For a while I thought he was immobile, thought he was not Prem quality, thought his distribution was poor, thought he was inexperienced - but now I know that you doubters are a bunch of crazy crack taking buzzards.

Kev Long is a £25 mill defender and he will be King Kev (at least till that work shy fop Bendy Knee comes back then poor Kev will be the forgotten man.) Shame on you Mike Garlick.

[Dyched]

A player getting stick for switching off for 5 seconds on goal. Yet the last time Son scored against us he ran through our entire team unopposed with our first choice CH MIA.

[Cirrus_Minor]

I thought he had one of his best games for us tonight. Getting a lot of stick for the goal but I am not sure he was marking Son. Either way, he did some very good defending along side Tarkowski tonight.

[bf2k]

Unfortunately was the main fault for the goal, lost his man (Son) and ended up marking nobody. Jamie Carragher just criticised that defending.

BUT - did excellently after a very dodgy first minute where his error got Brownhill booked.

Look, he plays well occasionally, always tries 100%, but is nowhere near it at this level so many times will get caught out. But saying that, he wasn’t the man who gave Spurs the win today, that was Kane (world class at both endsj.

Well put but we need better than Kevin Long unfortunately to survive in this league (arguably had this with Gibson). Ben Mee is sadly missed.

[tiger76]

Long played well tonight, and he did OK at West Brom, sadly one slip cost us, and once Ben Mee is fit he will return, but Tarks and Long have looked better in the last couple of games, what's cost us is the lack of goals, not necessarily the defence.

[ralphc]

I thought he had one of his best games for us tonight. Getting a lot of stick for the goal but I am not sure he was marking Son. Either way, he did some very good defending along side Tarkowski tonight.

He certainly was trying to mark Son as highlighted on Sky. His distribution is appalling but that apart and losing his man for the only goal of the game, he did ok.

[kindonesque]

It was a close call between Long and McNeil for MoM...Rock-on Kev Long

[CrosspoolClarets]

Long - nowhere near it at this level?

MoM against a world class attack - superb tonight

Not even close at this level, not his fault - it is Seans. I think the reason many of us bring this up is frustration at why we are in this position of not having proper backup.

But as I said he was excellent tonight. We lost to a corner following Dwight needlessly conceding possession, but I did feel that corner was defended badly. Wood was marking Dier, Tarky was marking Kane, Long was marking Son who had dropped deep. After Kane dropped deep, it all became about whether we would win the second ball if needed.

Long was caught ball watching, lost his man by getting trapped on the other side of Dier (who was clever), and froze, challenging nobody. It allowed Son to pick his spot. Defenders at this level always need to be moving, that (and his glacial turning speed) are his big problems.

But as I said, he was excellent tonight in general, there just always seems to be a crucial error caused by a talent gap which he simply cannot overcome.

[NewClaret]

Long played well tonight, and he did OK at West Brom, sadly one slip cost us, and once Ben Mee is fit he will return, but Tarks and Long have looked better in the last couple of games, what's cost us is the lack of goals, not necessarily the defence.

Think he saved us 2-3 times though. Watched it back after another poster said Dwight was at fault. Couldn’t remember but amazing how many times losing the ball in an attacking position causes us to concede a goal.

Feel we’ve creates plenty of chances in both games too. Would love us to have another corner or FK routine though.