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How do we let Garlick know?

Post by burnley007 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:53 pm

Is he just taking the mick because he knows there will be no fans in the ground to tell him exactly what we think?

How do we get the message across that the guy is finished at the club and has lost any last shred of respect with fans?

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Zlatan » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:54 pm

I’d boycott the home games...
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by The Enclosure » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:55 pm

Stop buying Twix.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by burnley007 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:55 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:54 pm
I’d boycott the home games...
but not the away games? :lol:
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Zlatan » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:55 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:55 pm
but not the away games? :lol:
That’s the spirit :D

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:56 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:53 pm
Is he just taking the mick because he knows there will be no fans in the ground to tell him exactly what we think?

How do we get the message across that the guy is finished at the club and has lost any last shred of respect with fans?
I respect him, don’t talk on my behalf.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Spijed » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:56 pm

Turn your back on 33 minutes whilst watching a dodgy stream!
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by burnley007 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:57 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:56 pm
I respect him, don’t talk on my behalf.
cool, why?

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:57 pm

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:58 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:56 pm
Turn your back on 33 minutes whilst watching a dodgy stream!
Let's do Zoom.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:58 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:57 pm
cool, why?
Maybe explain why you don't, then we can pick it apart.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:59 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:57 pm
cool, why?
For 1 I’ve no issue with him not wanting to spend what little money we have on over priced players. Dyche needs to think outside of the box a bit.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by DCWat » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:00 pm

I hope that we might hear something from him, I’m not sure that this window can simply be glossed over.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:02 pm

Write to the chairman
Room 101
Turf moor
Burnley
(Turning left at Zarg)

That should get it where it needs to go.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by burnley007 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:06 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:58 pm
Maybe explain why you don't, then we can pick it apart.
A team that over achieves, a manager that brings together players that otherwise wouldn't be playing at this level, coaches working hard to get the best out of those players....and a chairman that has massively under performed in player recruitment for at least 3 or 4 years. He has shown no respect to fans with any real explanation, just excuses and whining.
We are solely reliant on a management team that is keeping our club way above what could be seen as a pipe dream for most fans and yet is being shat on by a chairman that repeatedly pissies on their bonfire.

you?
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:09 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:06 pm
A team that over achieves, a manager that brings together players that otherwise wouldn't be playing at this level, coaches working hard to get the best out of those players....and a chairman that has massively under performed in player recruitment for at least 3 or 4 years. He has shown no respect to fans with any real explanation, just excuses and whining.
We are solely reliant on a management team that is keeping our club way above what could be seen as a pipe dream for most fans and yet is being shat on by a chairman that repeatedly pissies on their bonfire.

you?
So you're basing your lack of respect on transfer windows?

State of the art training ground.
Cat 2 Academy, soon to be Cat 1.
Zero debts.
5 straight year in the PL under his stewardship.
Improved disabled facilities.
Season ticket prices frozen for several seasons.

I could go on, but if you don't get the point by now you probably never will.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by jtv » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:14 pm

Academy already cat 1
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by MACCA » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:22 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:59 pm
For 1 I’ve no issue with him not wanting to spend what little money we have on over priced players. Dyche needs to think outside of the box a bit.
Then running a football club isnt really the thing he should be being a chairman of...

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:23 pm

MACCA wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:22 pm
Then running a football club isnt really the thing he should be being a chairman of...
To be fair, Macca, there can't be much of a queue waiting to take his place.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:24 pm

MACCA wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:22 pm
Then running a football club isnt really the thing he should be being a chairman of...
Find a billionaire then who wants to take over. Garlick is running the club in line with how much money we generate, nothing wrong with that.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by bfcmik » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:24 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:53 pm
How do we get the message across that the guy is finished at the club
Given he owns over 49% of the shares just how do you work out he is finished at the club. If, or when, he decided to be finished with the club then let us hope that he retains sufficient good will to the club - and, by extension, it's fans - to make sure he sells his stake to someone else who will care for the club and not a buyer such as the people who bought Wigan, Bury, Bolton etc
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:25 pm

Fly overs seem to be our preferred method of protest

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by DCWat » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:26 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:09 pm
So you're basing your lack of respect on transfer windows?

State of the art training ground.
Cat 2 Academy, soon to be Cat 1.
Zero debts.
5 straight year in the PL under his stewardship.
Improved disabled facilities.
Season ticket prices frozen for several seasons.

I could go on, but if you don't get the point by now you probably never will.
By the same logic, you’re crediting Garlick with a lot of things that we don’t know how much input he had.

1 and 2 were clearly at Dyche’s recommendation.

We can easily debate that it was Dyche that delivered the five straight years.

The disabled facilities had to be done and probably wouldn’t have been had there not been rules put in place (they’ve been complained about for years).

The season ticket prices are probably set at what is perceived to be the optimum level between take up and income.

What seems to be clear is that Garlick is holding too much control on areas that embedded should allow his experts to do the jobs for which they are well paid.

If the lack of budget information is anything like correct, he’s ****** up good and proper.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:26 pm

jtv wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:14 pm
Academy already cat 1
I bet it doesn't stay like that if we don't bounce straight back up

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by bfcmik » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:29 pm

LowtonClaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:18 pm
I pray his wife stays away from all chippies
And I hope that no supporter puts their dissatisfaction with the club above common decency and courtesy by attacking an innocent person.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:32 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:26 pm
By the same logic, you’re crediting Garlick with a lot of things that we don’t know how much input he had.

1 and 2 were clearly at Dyche’s recommendation.

We can easily debate that it was Dyche that delivered the five straight years.

The disabled facilities had to be done and probably wouldn’t have been had there not been rules put in place (they’ve been complained about for years).

The season ticket prices are probably set at what is perceived to be the optimum level between take up and income.

What seems to be clear is that Garlick is holding too much control on areas that embedded should allow his experts to do the jobs for which they are well paid.

If the lack of budget information is anything like correct, he’s ****** up good and proper.
Garlick has over seen the financial spending of the club.
Without his prudence how would the club pay for all the improvements etc?

It's been a great partnership, Garlick & Dyche but people attributing all the credit to Dyche is belittling Garlicks efforts to ensure the club is ran in a sustainable manner.

Garlick has backed Dyche for years now and Dyche has operated within the clubs financial boundaries with little grumbling until recently.

Yes the improved disabled facilities had to be done, but the money was available why?
Yes the Academy and Training ground but the money was available why?

Dyche had kept us in the PL and Garlick had ensured the money was available.

Someone sitting here saying they've zero respect because of transfers are dismissing all of the other things.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by mill hill claret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:33 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:26 pm
I bet it doesn't stay like that if we don't bounce straight back up
That's a fair point

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:33 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:26 pm
I bet it doesn't stay like that if we don't bounce straight back up
The money has been ring fenced if I recall correctly to ensure the academy can retain its Cat 1 status for a number of years.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by jtv » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:35 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:23 pm
To be fair, Macca, there can't be much of a queue waiting to take his place.
Macca has already indicated that he is willing to take over

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:36 pm

Maybe just appreciate the fact that we are poorest club in this league by a significant amount. Get behind the team and stop complaining.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by FCBurnley » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:36 pm

Using only what I know to be factual it would appear to me that Burnley FC have committed football suicide. Only 3 months ago we were an established successful mid table PL team. We had time and money to ensure another season of success and profit. We used neither which takes us to where we are today. I have no idea why the club has decided to take the long and slippery slope to the lower reaches of the Football world. There could be many reasons but usually to solve any mystery you should just follow the money UTC

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:37 pm

It’s not garlick. It’s not dyche. It’s the pair of them.

Both need to iron out their differences. Have a joined up approach. Back their players. Work together. And get on with it.

That said. Its also **** poor that we have brought in one player this window. We needed three or four even before we lost Lennon, hart, Hendrick, Gibson and coming. That’s at least £150k a week saved in wages alone.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:37 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:26 pm
By the same logic, you’re crediting Garlick with a lot of things that we don’t know how much input he had.

1 and 2 were clearly at Dyche’s recommendation.

We can easily debate that it was Dyche that delivered the five straight years.

The disabled facilities had to be done and probably wouldn’t have been had there not been rules put in place (they’ve been complained about for years).

The season ticket prices are probably set at what is perceived to be the optimum level between take up and income.

What seems to be clear is that Garlick is holding too much control on areas that embedded should allow his experts to do the jobs for which they are well paid.

If the lack of budget information is anything like correct, he’s ****** up good and proper.
You can bet your bottom dollar every manager we ever had asked the chairman to upgrade the training facilities and youth set up.

This chairman delivered.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:39 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:37 pm
It’s not garlick. It’s not dyche. It’s the pair of them.

Both need to iron out their differences. Have a joined up approach. Back their players. Work together. And get on with it.

That said. Its also **** poor that we have brought in one player this window. We needed three or four even before we lost Lennon, hart, Hendrick, Gibson and coming. That’s at least £150k a week saved in wages alone.
“One club mentality” Dyche would do well to remember it.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by MACCA » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:40 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:24 pm
Find a billionaire then who wants to take over. Garlick is running the club in line with how much money we generate, nothing wrong with that.
You've just moved the goalposts ....

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:42 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:33 pm
The money has been ring fenced if I recall correctly to ensure the academy can retain its Cat 1 status for a number of years.
Until....seen it before

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:42 pm

MACCA wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:40 pm
You've just moved the goalposts ....
Willing to try anything to get us a win against WBA
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by ClaretAL » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:43 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:39 pm
“One club mentality” Dyche would do well to remember it.
MG you really are excelling tonight! Look mate I'm not sure what your agenda is, or who set it for you, but I think you need to read the forum and realise you have gone in to deep in the MG camp to have any sensibility

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by bfcmik » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:44 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:26 pm
By the same logic, you’re crediting Garlick with a lot of things that we don’t know how much input he had.

1 and 2 were clearly at Dyche’s recommendation.

We can easily debate that it was Dyche that delivered the five straight years.

The disabled facilities had to be done and probably wouldn’t have been had there not been rules put in place (they’ve been complained about for years).

The season ticket prices are probably set at what is perceived to be the optimum level between take up and income.

What seems to be clear is that Garlick is holding too much control on areas that embedded should allow his experts to do the jobs for which they are well paid.

If the lack of budget information is anything like correct, he’s ****** up good and proper.
1&2 may, or may not, have been Dyche recommendations, but the board of directors still had to find the money to pay for it.

Dyche's management is undeniably a big part of 5 successive seasons and he has been suitably well remunerated for it over the past 7 years as well as having a security of tenure almost unprecedented at Premier League level despite a relegation and some awful football at times. Many a PL manager would have been sacked after that Boxing Day defeat by Everton, for instance.

Disabled facilities I grant you were something forced upon us by legislation.

When we were able to we filled the home section on over half the games so it would have been reasonable to increase prices several times.

Garlick is the owner and Chairman and can therefore pick and choose who he trusts and how much control he keeps for himself - but no-one really knows which experts he allows "to do the jobs for which they are well paid". I presume he does just that after setting the business parameters that have to be adhered to by those experts, which is the case in all areas of business and life.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:45 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:43 pm
MG you really are excelling tonight! Look mate I'm not sure what your agenda is, or who set it for you, but I think you need to read the forum and realise you have gone in to deep in the MG camp to have any sensibility
1 - I’m not your mate

2 - If you read all my posts you’d see that I’m saying both Dyche and Garlick need to take the blame.

One thing is sure though, Dyche bitching in the press does nothing to bring us all together.
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:45 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:37 pm

That said. Its also **** poor that we have brought in one player this window. We needed three or four even before we lost Lennon, hart, Hendrick, Gibson and coming. That’s at least £150k a week saved in wages alone.
Replaced Hart with a cheaper option on the bench in Norris.
Replaced Gibson (non-player) with a lad from U23s .
don't forget these two did absolutely nothing last season except draw a wage.

Could easily include Benson in the matchday squad, it's not that often that Sd uses subs tactically.

There you go, problem almost solved,

And then there's Dale Stephens.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by ClaretAL » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:48 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:45 pm
1 - I’m not your mate

2 - If you read all my posts you’d see that I’m saying both Dyche and Garlick need to take the blame.

One thing is sure though, Dyche bitching in the press does nothing to bring us all together.
Maybe Dyche realises that MG is in it for his gains and doesnt give a stuff about the club/fans, and he is making this clear before a takeover?

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:50 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:48 pm
Maybe Dyche realises that MG is in it for his gains and doesnt give a stuff about the club/fans, and he is making this clear before a takeover?
No one is going to take us over if we look a danger to go down, so on that basis if Garlick is in for the gains then it’s in his interest that we stay in the EPL.

Go and look at the accounts and tell me where the cash is to buy the type of player we normally go for.

Got to be give and take on both sides.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Steddyman » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:52 pm

MG has always been risk averse, and he knows that with the upcoming TV rebates and lack of match day income, BFC will be struggling to balance the books.

If you look at what MG has done, he has let go of some of our best paid players (due to their experience) to reduce the wages paid out, and at the same time expanded our investment in the youth strategy. If (or when) we do go down, we will sell our biggest assets and then build from the U23's. He will probably require a new manager to follow that route.

I don't like it, but we shouldn't be surprised by his strategy, it is the path of financial prudence he has followed all along. Now, if we want to retain our Premier League status, we need a new crew at the helm.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by warksclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:00 pm

Many of the things being stated as having been achieved outside of the team, have only been possible through a manager who has gained us 2 promotions and 6 years of PL survival, bringing in over £800m at a guess and a place in Europe. This with a team of at best competent PL players, with a max spend of £15m on any one player. Please tell me a manager who has ever managed in the PL that has achieved as much with our spend, Not even Guardiola could have achieved this, We may lack the the flair of many clubs but our work ethic, organisation and our ability to manage games is now talked about by every pundit.Its hard to change tactics with the team we have. Remember the only club to take a point at Anfield. We could play the open expansive football the Owen Coyle way, and even he got more to spend than SD in the last 18 months. But we would not survive the PL

As lifelong fans it would be nice to know whats going on. Its made staying up almost an impossibility. Many fans on here believe history will repeat itself. Anyone believing we will keep the same number of clean sheets, and the same number of wins, or even close, is living in cuckoo land

I know SD has his faults , but there is no guessing how any one of us would react on SKY when you are as frustrated as he is

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by ClaretAL » Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:02 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:52 pm
MG has always been risk averse, and he knows that with the upcoming TV rebates and lack of match day income, BFC will be struggling to balance the books.

If you look at what MG has done, he has let go of some of our best paid players (due to their experience) to reduce the wages paid out, and at the same time expanded our investment in the youth strategy. If (or when) we do go down, we will sell our biggest assets and then build from the U23's. He will probably require a new manager to follow that route.

I don't like it, but we shouldn't be surprised by his strategy, it is the path of financial prudence he has followed all along. Now, if we want to retain our Premier League status, we need a new crew at the helm.
Totally acceptable, however every pundit, and fan are shouting loud from the roof tops, back your manager. If we didn't have the last 5 ears those U23's would not be here and so we need to progress to improve that. I fear if we drop to the Championship, we have players on 1 year contracts about to run out that will be snapped up on a free as we are relatively poor even by Championship standards, and why would any decent U21 not move to a better stated ground?

MG has screwed it up no matter how you try to dress it up

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:04 pm

I am fully on Team Garlick.

He’s looking after the club at a time when clubs are disappearing due to poor finances.

We have some good young players coming through and core group of senior players that are very good.

Let’s get behind the team
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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:05 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:02 pm
Totally acceptable, however every pundit, and fan are shouting loud from the roof tops, back your manager. If we didn't have the last 5 ears those U23's would not be here and so we need to progress to improve that. I fear if we drop to the Championship, we have players on 1 year contracts about to run out that will be snapped up on a free as we are relatively poor even by Championship standards, and why would any decent U21 not move to a better stated ground?

MG has screwed it up no matter how you try to dress it up
Explain how MG has screwed up.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by ClaretAL » Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:07 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:05 pm
Explain how MG has screwed up.
Look around, compare, and listen to the professionals. Dyche has been hung out to dry and when our club falls through trap doors (plural) remember that is because MG did not agree with speculate to accumulate.

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Re: How do we let Garlick know?

Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:08 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:04 pm
I am fully on Team Garlick.

He’s looking after the club at a time when clubs are disappearing due to poor finances.

We have some good young players coming through and core group of senior players that are very good.

Let’s get behind the team
See what the Championship brings.....

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