Iphone 12 + ???

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:59 pm

Appreciate not everyone wants/likes apple devices but for those who do...

Anybody else watching the Apple event?

It's nailed on to be showing the new iPhone range but may also feature some other products too.

The event can be viewed live below and starts anytime now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR0g-1h ... nnel=Apple

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:23 pm

I like and use the iPhone but their days of innovation seem to be well behind them. When did they let come up with something unique?

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:44 pm

Reminds me of my Samsung 2 years ago

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:56 pm

I’ve got a Samsung work phone. It’s dreadful! Happy with my iPhone 11.

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:18 pm

Im still on the iPhone 7 as it's still serving me well.

Im not sure what innovation you can get from a phone now, and being responsible for smartphone as we know it today the narrative Apple seem to be focused on is security and privacy and innovating in that way.

From what I have seen of the iPhone 12 tonight - big focus on 5g which isn't innovative at all as its a technology that has been around in other phones for a while. The fact is that 5g is very limited currently anyway so not something that even early adopters are able to really experience unless they are in an area where this has been deployed.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:26 pm

Been waiting for today since my Birthday at the start of September. Waiting for the iPhone 11 to drop, so I can purchase outright.

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:38 pm

that was also a consideration for me. my 7 is still going well so will see how the world looks later in the year/early next

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:49 pm

Not watching it but have they mentioned whether it will have Lidar scanner like the iPad Pro?

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:51 pm

yes it does i think in the pro range.

also mini homepod speakers launched

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:59 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:26 pm
Been waiting for today since my Birthday at the start of September. Waiting for the iPhone 11 to drop, so I can purchase outright.

That’s what I’m planning to do as well. Will probably be in the new year

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:06 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:59 pm
That’s what I’m planning to do as well. Will probably be in the new year

£599 is likely to be the price for the 11

giveusaB · Post by **giveusaB** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:23 pm

On Apple site now. XR -£499, 11 -£599.

giveusaB · Post by **giveusaB** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:37 pm

Looks like this is the price If you are trading in.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:39 pm

£599 at Curry’s 65GB

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:26 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:39 pm
£599 at Curry’s 65GB

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giveusaB · Post by **giveusaB** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:27 pm

Currys eBay has it at £599 but has a code “PRODUCT5” that takes it down to £569.05p

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:32 pm

I’ve had the 11 for a few months, got a pretty decent deal from EE after I opted to leave them when my last contract ended. There’s really nothing significant imho from what I was using (iPhone 6). I know technically there is, but not really for my use. I basically pay £4 more than what I did but unlimited data as opposed to the 4GB I had.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:12 pm

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:23 pm
I like and use the iPhone but their days of innovation seem to be well behind them. When did they let come up with something unique?

Their processors were already 30% faster than anything else on the market, and the new one has 40% more transistors. They wipe the floor with all Fandroid phones.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:20 pm

clarethomer wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:51 pm
yes it does i think in the pro range.

also mini homepod speakers launched

That’s taken a while to materialise!! So long in fact, I thought that they might release a new HomePod.

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:01 am

Steddyman wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:12 pm
Their processors were already 30% faster than anything else on the market, and the new one has 40% more transistors. They wipe the floor with all Fandroid phones.

Does the average user care about that? As far as I can tell there’s no difference between my XR, 7 and 6. The camera might be better, but I’m not a photographer so I don’t know.

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:17 am

£800 and they don't even give you a charger or headphones......

AfloatinClaret · Post by **AfloatinClaret** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:13 am

https://realmanshow.wordpress.com/2019/ ... heep-meme/

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:09 am

Orders have gone mad this morning
Dont see the big fuss about the new en

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:10 am

Sutton-Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:17 am
£800 and they don't even give you a charger or headphones......

Its good in a way
Did you see the figures on how many chargers and sets are out ther from.previous models that can be used.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:13 am

Overpriced & Overated!

ChrisG · Post by **ChrisG** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:43 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:39 pm
£599 at Curry’s 65GB

Is it worthwhile paying upfront?

£599 is £25 a month over 24 months, plus a like for like package to what I'm on now with unlimited everything plus Spotify is about £37 a month on Vodafone.

I only pay £48 a month for this on a 24 month contract so I'm saving a fortune over the length of the deal.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:47 pm

If you buy a phone upfront you shouldn’t be paying much for a monthly fee with the packages out there.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:00 pm

How do you milk a sheep?

Release a new Apple product.....

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:01 pm

I’ve been waiting for the IPhone 12 for about 6 months as the previous versions didn’t offer enough of a leap from my 7 plus. My 7 plus battery is <80% after 4 years, and the speaker isn’t anywhere near as good as the newer models, so figured I’d wait.

The 12 doesn’t give the battery performance specs, so I’m going to hold on for a few weeks until I’ve seen the reviews, but I was surprised, as were many in the industry it seems, that Apple have essentially put the same spec in the iPhone Mini as the larger model. The battery will be smaller of course, but besides that it looks a cracking option. I’m sick of the size of my 7 plus. Too big for a pocket really, although I liked that at first. The screen on the mini is only 0.1” smaller than the 7 plus, so it ticks my boxes. If the battery performance seems okay I’ll go with the “mini”, but if not I’ll probably got for the 12 pro.

I was thinking about buying it up front, but if the deal is right then might contract as it can often work out cheaper than a month to month deal.

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:23 pm

Buy a fone outright.
Get a sim only

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:23 pm

Still hanging onto my iPhone 7 and looking at the iPhone 11. Prices now under £600 and now considering the IPhone 11 Pro.

Any ideas on whether there’ll be any Black Friday offers on the 11Pro and roughly how much I might be looking at?

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:51 pm

I have IPhone 8 and not sure I have understood all it can do even now, what would i do with iPhone 11.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:56 pm

Only used iPhones for the last 10 years but my work phone I’ve had for 2 years is a Samsung and I literally avoid using it at all costs, I just can’t take to it and the speakers dreadful. Never been that fussed about technology, I just take whatever I’m offered when I call to renew (salesman’s dream)

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:01 pm

I’m not a massive technophobe and I’ve never had a new phone, so I thought I’d upgrade to the 12.

Long story short I’ve sent it back to Vodafone because of a pricing confusion on my part, and I wasn’t willing to pay £52 as opposed to the £42 I thought it was.

But, now I’m back to my I-phone 8, I do miss the 12. The Face ID, screen and slickness of it and features were decent and the 8 feels archaic.

That said there’s a limit to what I’m willing to pay because it is only a phone at the end of the day, and I do try and limit my time on it.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:24 pm

I use an android for work - it’s infuriating. Too much lag when doing anything and the unlock options fail to work regularly, meaning I need to input the pin code. Compared to my 11 Pro, it’s night and day.

I generally get a new phone every two years - I’ve now started buying from Apple and running a cheap unlimited contract from EE.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:37 pm

I pay £17 a month for 20GB data and unlimited everything else.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:23 pm
Still hanging onto my iPhone 7 and looking at the iPhone 11. Prices now under £600 and now considering the IPhone 11 Pro.

Any ideas on whether there’ll be any Black Friday offers on the 11Pro and roughly how much I might be looking at?

Not sure on deals. But I’ve got the 11pro, bought it outright last year. It’s a cracking phone and I won’t need to replace it until at least the next phone after the 12.

Even the battery life seems way better than any other phone I’ve had.

I’ve always alternated between android and iPhone but I think il stick with iPhone now. Just ‘feels’ far better.

Oh and had an issue yesterday. I rung apple. Got through to them in a minute and the lady I spoke to ran through the million and one questions I had about unrelated apple / iPhone topics. That’s what sets apple apart imo.

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:32 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
Not sure on deals. But I’ve got the 11pro, bought it outright last year. It’s a cracking phone and I won’t need to replace it until at least the next phone after the 12.

Even the battery life seems way better than any other phone I’ve had.

I’ve always alternated between android and iPhone but I think il stick with iPhone now. Just ‘feels’ far better.

Oh and had an issue yesterday. I rung apple. Got through to them in a minute and the lady I spoke to ran through the million and one questions I had about unrelated apple / iPhone topics. That’s what sets apple apart imo.

Same support with Samsung
Online chat and a fault diagnosed within mins. Not just your fone. Washer. Fridge etc

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:39 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:51 pm
Not sure on deals. But I’ve got the 11pro, bought it outright last year. It’s a cracking phone and I won’t need to replace it until at least the next phone after the 12.

Even the battery life seems way better than any other phone I’ve had.

I’ve always alternated between android and iPhone but I think il stick with iPhone now. Just ‘feels’ far better.

Oh and had an issue yesterday. I rung apple. Got through to them in a minute and the lady I spoke to ran through the million and one questions I had about unrelated apple / iPhone topics. That’s what sets apple apart imo.

You mention the battery life. I've got an Iphone XS (10) and the battery life is significantly better than the 7S I had before that. The battery life in the 11 is apparently significantly better than the XS too. That's one thing they have vastly improved.

I do like my XS but will probably get a new one in around six months or so - that will probably move me on to 12.

Despite all the criticisms from some, I do like iphones.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:52 am

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:32 am
Same support with Samsung
Online chat and a fault diagnosed within mins. Not just your fone. Washer. Fridge etc

I'd worry on both counts that you should ever need the support, over the course of 20 years plus I've never ever felt the need to contact a phone manufacturer asking any questions, HTC, SONY, NOKIA ect ect, hardware or software problems it's sorted with my knowledge & researching online, someone will always have the same problem, the day I need to be ringing apple or samsung ect up is the day to pack up ever owning a mobile phone.

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:36 pm

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:52 am
I'd worry on both counts that you should ever need the support, over the course of 20 years plus I've never ever felt the need to contact a phone manufacturer asking any questions, HTC, SONY, NOKIA ect ect, hardware or software problems it's sorted with my knowledge & researching online, someone will always have the same problem, the day I need to be ringing apple or samsung ect up is the day to pack up ever owning a mobile phone.

I needed a part for an out of warranty oven id broken
Sent the part with no costs next day

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:42 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:36 pm
I needed a part for an out of warranty oven id broken
Sent the part with no costs next day

It was more reference to the mobile phone side.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:46 pm

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:42 pm
It was more reference to the mobile phone side.

Things can and do go wrong. Things can and do become difficult to understand. I work in mobile. But still needed a hand with mine the other day. Contacts had stopped displaying and id done every diagnostic I could myself. Turned out it was an issue with the software update. Nothing a user can do about that. Thankfully got through to someone at Apple in less than a minute who was helpful not only on that issue but giving a steer on getting the most from other applications and services.

Good on apple for having people on hand to actually speak to.

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:48 pm

I upgraded from an IPhone X to an IPhone 12 pro and the battery life does seem to be significantly longer as mentioned. It has to be said my old phone was over 2 years old so you would probably expect it to be better but from what I remember it has improved on what it was like when new as well. I think the phone itself is amazing similar to the X the 5g is great though I find I don’t have to use my WIFI much. I only use it when posting on here as my IPAddress is blocked fixed it once just going to ignore it and use WIFI for posting from now on.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:20 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:46 pm
Things can and do go wrong. Things can and do become difficult to understand. I work in mobile. But still needed a hand with mine the other day. Contacts had stopped displaying and id done every diagnostic I could myself. Turned out it was an issue with the software update. Nothing a user can do about that. Thankfully got through to someone at Apple in less than a minute who was helpful not only on that issue but giving a steer on getting the most from other applications and services.

Good on apple for having people on hand to actually speak to.

Me personally I've never had a problem not to the extent of needing to ring them up I just wouldn't do it Ive always find a way around it, first time for everything I guess but all the updates I've always encountered whether OTA or hooked up to the computer have been clean & glitch free, the glitches can ironed out with workarounds or resolved with patches or completely eliminated next update when you may encounter fresh glitches.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:26 pm

I nearly rung sony once with a black screen did diagnostics ended up heating it up prising it open & fitting a proximity sensor & it was fine afterwards, that was with a old Z5 premium a common fault after headphone jack port replacement, that's the only time I've ever been close to ringing them up but I sourced the part non direct from eBay.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:32 pm

Oh well. Cost me nothing. Got help. And they gave me good advice on other stuff. Each to their own.