The only way is up

[MT03ALG]

from 20th. position, starting with 3 points tomorrow??

[box_of_frogs]

Sadly not technically correct, as we can go down later in the season.....

[FactualFrank]

Sadly not technically correct, as we can go down later in the season.....

It's a 4 team competition. With whoever is the other 3.

We can do this.

[Spijed]

It's a 4 team competition. With whoever is the other 3.

We can do this.

Last season Bournemouth started off well...

[BOYSIE31]

Only one way we are heading I'm afraid

[FactualFrank]

Last season Bournemouth started off well...

And went down. You've not understood my point.

[BurnleyFC]

Three games in but we’re in big, big trouble already.

[Spijed]

And went down. You've not understood my point.

You said it was a four team competition. I presume you only think there will be four clubs battling relegation this season?

[FactualFrank]

You said it was a four team competition. I presume you only think there will be four clubs battling relegation this season?

No. I meant it was us + another 3.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Dyche out

[Spijed]

No. I meant it was us + another 3.

And that's why the Bournemouth example shows it won't work like that. There will be others who will quite easily drop down the table after a good start so it'll be six or seven teams, not just four, like it is every season.

[Bosscat]

We're Doomed, Doomed I tell ye, Aye Doomed

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[Spijed]

IF, and it's a big IF but I think if we win tomorrow we should be ok with a bit to spare as results elsewhere are now starting to fall into line as you would expect.

But we need to win though...

[FactualFrank]

We're Doomed, Doomed I tell ye, Aye Doomed
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Do you have a spare room?

[Bosscat]

Do you have a spare room?

No but I have a garden shed

[FactualFrank]

No but I have a garden shed

Book me in - but I expect a superb breakfast.

[ClaretTony]

Only one way we are heading I'm afraid

Haven’t you been telling us this ever since we won promotion?

[LoveCurryPies]

It’s the same every season. Burnley writing us off before the season has started, knocking the players, calling the board and owners. As the season progresses, they continue to moan. Even when we finish in the top 10, they moan “next season we will go down for sure!”

Bring on tomorrow’s match! UTC!

[bobinho]

Waaaaaaaaayyyyyy too early to be writing us off...

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Only one way we are heading I'm afraid

So on the plus side, you'll finally be happy...

[Woodleyclaret]

We are staying up and moving on up tmr UTC

[claretblue]

Book me in - but I expect a superb breakfast.

...you'll have to make do with Spikes leftovers!

[Bosscat]

Haven’t you been telling us this ever since we won promotion?

I think he is another who just repeats himself so eventually "if" it does happen he can say "I told you it would happen ... I told you and you didn't listen"

[Bosscat]

...you'll have to make do with Spikes leftovers!

No leftovers Spikes a greedy fat b**tard like me

[FactualFrank]

...you'll have to make do with Spikes leftovers!

£5 a night - deal.

[BOYSIE31]

Haven’t you been telling us this ever since we won promotion?

Not really

[Bosscat]

£5 a night - deal.

Wi-fi is extra though Frank

[BOYSIE31]

We are staying up and moving on up tmr UTC

Not really just predicted it as we have finally come to that standstill.

Recruitment these last few years has been non existent - no plan no future but to keep offering 30 year olds extended contracts.

[FactualFrank]

Wi-fi is extra though Frank

Bloody rip off.

[box_of_frogs]

It’s the same every season. Burnley writing us off before the season has started, knocking the players, calling the board and owners. As the season progresses, they continue to moan. Even when we finish in the top 10, they moan “next season we will go down for sure!”

Bring on tomorrow’s match! UTC!

It wouldn’t be so bad if it wasn’t for yet another abject failure of a transfer window.

[Bosscat]

Bloody rip off.

Business is business Frank

[JohnMac]

Only on here do you get relegated 3 games into the season

[tiger76]

A win tomorrow and the whole feeling around the club will change, also as well as lifting us out of the bottom 3, it would leave us just a point shy of Brighton with a game in hand, so it's far too early too despair, but tomorrow is a big game, even this early in the season.

[CaptainKirk]

Only one way we are heading I'm afraid

Why do you give the impression that that is just what you want?

[BOYSIE31]

Why do you give the impression that that is just what you want?

Why do I want that ?

All I want to see is a clear plan - hopefully once the takeover is done we might get one

[boatshed bill]

10 wins and a few draws, by no means impossible.
Too many are willing to right this squad off. we have good (if a bit old) players.

[jurek]

10 wins and a few draws, by no means impossible.
Too many are willing to right this squad off. we have good (if a bit old) players.

Or we need to win close on 1 in 3 of our remaining games.
Whichever way you look at it it is not beyond doing but if you go through our fixtures
game by game it starts to look extremely difficult.

But agree a good win tomorrow will lift the spirits.
A loss will start a few off especially with our next two games against Spurs and Chelsea.

[leelad]

Take one game at a time, but I feel that tomorrow's match against the Baggies is an important one to get some form of momentum going and stop the rot of defeats. Especially after the two week international break. Doesn't look good at the moment being on 0 points. 35 games to go to get at least 40 points.

[Spijed]

I think some need to calm down a bit. This was the table two seasons ago after five games, with us at the bottom. Also, those saying how well Villa are doing, just look at Watford and Bournemouth.

[Bin Ont Turf]

So on the plus side, you'll finally be happy...

Happier, there are 2 more divisions to go before he'll be ecstatic.

[BurnleyFC]

I was looking at the eldest’s Panini cards from last year (no, really) and wondering how the hell Watford went down with the squad they had.

They were far too good on paper to drop.

[Spijed]

I was looking at the eldest’s Panini cards from last year (no, really) and wondering how the hell Watford went down with the squad they had.

They were far too good on paper to drop.

And it happens every season that a squad that's seemingly too good to drop will have a fight on their hands to stop up. That's why there will be a few clubs fighting to avoid relegation, not just four as some seem to think.

[jrgbfc]

I think some need to calm down a bit. This was the table two seasons ago after five games, with us at the bottom. Also, those saying how well Villa are doing, just look at Watford and Bournemouth.

There was some real rubbish in the league that year, Cardiff in particular. We've stood still and the league has moved on.

[Spijed]

There was some real rubbish in the league that year, Cardiff in particular. We've stood still and the league has moved on.

Cardiff got the same number of points as Watford & Bournemouth when they got relegated last season.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Having now seen every team at least twice there's no hiding the fact that we are in our rightful place currently as we are by far in a way the worst, weakest team in the league.

We have done naff all to remedy the situation too unfortunately.

The West Brom game is now a must win when you look at our run of fixtures up to mid December when we play Wolves at home. By then though we could be well adrift

[buzzclarets79]

Struggling to see where the goals are going to come from this year. Tems have figured out stop McNeil and thats most of our threat taken care of. last 3 games have been really painful to watch

[Spijed]

Having now seen every team at least twice there's no hiding the fact that we are in our rightful place currently as we are by far in a way the worst, weakest team in the league.

We have done naff all to remedy the situation too unfortunately.

The West Brom game is now a must win when you look at our run of fixtures up to mid December when we play Wolves at home. By then though we could be well adrift

Really?

Are you saying that even with everyone fit, such as Mee, Cork, JBG, Jay-Rod etc. we aren't good enough?

The same squad that got 54 points last season (minus Hendrick)?

Yes, its obvious we have problems with injures and it severely weakened us in recent games, but there is no way on earth that with every one available we are one of the weakest teams.

[joey13]

I think some need to calm down a bit. This was the table two seasons ago after five games, with us at the bottom. Also, those saying how well Villa are doing, just look at Watford and Bournemouth.

Watford and Bournemouth didn’t go down

[Herts Clarets]

Really?

Are you saying that even with everyone fit, such as Mee, Cork, JBG, Jay-Rod etc. we aren't good enough?

The same squad that got 54 points last season (minus Hendrick)?

And Lennon. And Hart. And all another year older in what was already an aging squad.

[TomtheClaret]

And Lennon. And Hart. And all another year older in what was already an aging squad.

Aging squad yes. But constant Hart and Lennon gone, I find strange. How many Pl games did they start last term?