One of the 322 MP's who voted to help the poorest children in society become even hungrier this winter. Hope all the local Burnley Tory voters are proud of him.

Pig

As somebody posted on FB today, MPs get over £8m of subsidised meals per year. Tory ****.

I do think in the current climate this really needs sorting, children will starve, we are not a third world country. Terrible to imagine young children living local to me starving whilst I throw food away every week.

I doubt he actually voted for that.

I think he's saying it should be a short term last resort option, however it's quite clear they are parents out there that expect the state to raise their children for them.

No child should ever go hungry, but also their parents should so everything in their power to make sure that doesnt happen, sadly there are way too many that put themselves before their children.

When does the chain ever break if the plan is to continue to throw money at the parents hoping some trickles down?

Its heartbreaking

This is what we voted for

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:42 pm

I do think in the current climate this really needs sorting, children will starve, we are not a third world country. Terrible to imagine young children living local to me starving whilst I throw food away every week.

It is heartbreaking that this is happening in our country.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:43 pm

I doubt he actually voted for that.

I think he's saying it should be a short term last resort option, however it's quite clear they are parents out there that expect the state to raise their children for them.

No child should ever go hungry, but also their parents should so everything in their power to make sure that doesnt happen, sadly there are way too many that put themselves before their children.

When does the chain ever break if the plan is to continue to throw money at the parents hoping some trickles down?

Its heartbreaking

Rock & a hard place mate, only one loser though and that’s children

Grim.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:43 pm

I doubt he actually voted for that.

I think he's saying it should be a short term last resort option, however it's quite clear they are parents out there that expect the state to raise their children for them.

No child should ever go hungry, but also their parents should so everything in their power to make sure that doesnt happen, sadly there are way too many that put themselves before their children.

When does the chain ever break if the plan is to continue to throw money at the parents hoping some trickles down?

Its heartbreaking

To right, churning children out for some is down to a fine art every 9mths as sure as eggs, the practicalities of how to raise a large family responsibly isn’t even a consideration, I’d personally cap all benefits exceeding 2 children to discourage abusing the system. Not the children’s fault I feel sorry for them.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:51 pm

To right, churning children out for some is down to a fine art every 9mths as sure as eggs, the practicalities of how to raise a large family responsibly isn’t even a consideration, I’d personally cap all benefits exceeding 2 children to discourage abusing the system. Not the children’s fault I feel sorry for them.

Do you respect what Marcus Rashford is trying to do?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:54 pm

Do you respect what Marcus Rashford is trying to do?

Yes to a certain degree the intentions seem honourable enough.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:51 pm

I’d personally cap all benefits exceeding 2 children to discourage abusing the system. Not the children’s fault I feel sorry for them.

You’re several years behind the Tories.

We live in the 21st Century, seriously, nobody in the UK should be going hungry... food and shelter should be a given. No matter what your circumstances, poor, homeless, smackhead or whatever.... especially children, even if you think the parents are to blame, it’s still not the children’s fault.

I don’t know how anyone can justify choosing to see people starve.

Windfall tax on anyone earning over £50,000 per week would help fund it.

I keep reading that this isn’t the solution and it’s a sticking plaster. So what? We are in the middle of a pandemic.
Stick the ******* plaster on it.

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:44 pm

This is what we voted for

Not me

Some real old Tory voices on here... the many punished for Often exaggerated sins of the few. Been far to liberal far too long, there are plenty of empty old factories, bring back the poor laws!

If kids go hungry look no further than their parents

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:57 pm

I don’t know how anyone can justify choosing to see people starve.

I dont think anyone would choose to see a person starve, it's a case of when and where does it stop.

I see the argument is to give childrens parents the money equivalent of what the usual school meal costs, which is a great idea, but what if the parent STILL decides not to buy or fees that child a meal?
Then surely the system wouldn't be working.

In my opinion, I'd open up certain schools / community centres through the holidays to guarantee ANY hungry family can get a meal.

Throwing hundreds of pounds at a person hoping something trickles down to their child(ren) clearly doesnt work, we can see evidence of that already with current benefit system, as houses are still without heating, hot water, food not in cupboards, and children are still walking around with inappropriate or substandard clothing etc.

But politicians or members of the public scoring points by saying there's people out their choosing to watch children starve depending on who you voted for is pretty low.

It tkes a special kind of person to try and points score with serious matters like this.

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:44 pm

This is what we voted for

Just to clarify, Im not in your "we"

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:06 pm

If kids go hungry look no further than their parents

It's not about finding someone to blame, you daft ****. It's about making sure kids don't starve.

Talking about blaming the parents for things, have you seen how ugly that Higginbotham fella is. Jesus Christ, he was right at the back when the gene pool was being distributed. Proper munter.

His values match his appearance. Vile.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:06 pm

If kids go hungry look no further than their parents

Definitely plays a part, you bring children into the world you also need to accept responsibility towards that.

You soft arse. Nobody needs to go hungry. Newsflash ‘ kids can’t go on their weekly pilgrimage to MacDonalds; poverty sets in .
Look up how kids survived in much harder times

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:10 pm

It's not about finding someone to blame, you daft ****. It's about making sure kids don't starve.

Not just kids, people.
Starve is a strong word, but theres many people of all ages going hungry on a daily basis.
Far too many people.

Who cares about starving kids more money to go to MP’s mates who run Track and Trace. The real hero’s in this pandemic.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:08 pm

I dont think anyone would choose to see a person starve, it's a case of when it where does it stop.

I see the argument is to give childrens parents the money equivalent of what the usual school meal costs are, which is a great idea, but what if the parent STILL decides not to but that child a meal.
Then surely the system wouldn't be working.

The proposal was for food vouchers so they’d be hard pressed to spend it on anything else.

I’m sick to death of all this sh*t people peddle these days .

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:06 pm

If kids go hungry look no further than their parents

But at present there about 3 million people (freelancers and many self-employed), who haven't been able to earn a penny since March and have not been entitled to a penny in support from the govt.
They are getting by on minimal level benefits.
Not their fault that they are prevented from working by a virus.

Not a peep when the Tories are ciphering of millions to their mates but ask them to help the poor and feed hungry children and suddenly up they pop

https://twitter.com/i/status/1318982784464146433

I wouldn’t wish to prevent anyone, rich or poor, from having a child, who wishes to do so, and no children should be going hungry.

Where I do struggle is with those that choose to have multiple children with no means to care for them, either financially or responsibly as a parent and caring role model.

I can see the argument for not funding above one child but that just won’t help the children that are second, third or fourth, why should they suffer for the parents that they’re saddled with?

It’s a cycle that won’t be resolved. There’s no education programme that will change what has been engrained across generations.

I agree 100% but don’t give me this rubbish that a local MP is to blame for kids going short.
Get the f’in stew pot on , costs very little

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:21 pm

I agree 100% but don’t give me this rubbish that a local MP is to blame for kids going short.
Get the f’in stew pot on , costs very little

He shares the blame with the other Tory MPs who voted against just as those who voted for him share the blame for putting him a position to do it.

My aim is true, my message is clear
It's curtains for you, Elizabeth my dear.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:17 pm

The proposal was for food vouchers so they’d be hard pressed to spend it on anything else.

Food vouchers or vouchers for supermarkets?

Regardless of what vouchers are given, they can still be sold, and yes I know it's hard to believe but sadly it does happen.

What don’t you understand about there is no reason kids need to starve today.
Your sort are either solely politically motivated or have never had to be brought up in hard times

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:21 pm

I agree 100% but don’t give me this rubbish that a local MP is to blame for kids going short.
Get the f’in stew pot on , costs very little

No but its in his and his fellow MPs grasp to make a difference now and help these children in the current crisis.

The criticism isnt that they are responsible for the cause but are rejecting the opportunity to help and when you look at all the money they have wasted over the last 6 months it just adds to the discgrace

Tory Sc*m

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:51 pm

To right, churning children out for some is down to a fine art every 9mths as sure as eggs, the practicalities of how to raise a large family responsibly isn’t even a consideration, I’d personally cap all benefits exceeding 2 children to discourage abusing the system. Not the children’s fault I feel sorry for them.

This post tells me two things; that people will back this government, the worst in living memory, no matter what they do; and that Jakubclaret is a bit thick

Know much money does Rashford need. He could donate £4m a year a still have plenty. Rather than let some political group run his Twitter he should put his money where his mouth is.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:43 pm

I doubt he actually voted for that.

I think he's saying it should be a short term last resort option, however it's quite clear they are parents out there that expect the state to raise their children for them.

No child should ever go hungry, but also their parents should so everything in their power to make sure that doesnt happen, sadly there are way too many that put themselves before their children.

When does the chain ever break if the plan is to continue to throw money at the parents hoping some trickles down?

Its heartbreaking

Why are you defending him? He voted to keep children hungry

MACCA wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:25 pm

Food vouchers or vouchers for supermarkets?

Regardless of what vouchers are given, they can still be sold, and yes I know it's hard to believe but sadly it does happen.

Youre falling for the same media tropes that they use for benefits claimants and migrants where they get you to focus on the absolute exceptions of system abuse whist ignoring the majority of good people in genuine need who require the help we are easily in a position to provide

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:28 pm

Know much money does Rashford need. He could donate £4m a year a still have plenty. Rather than let some political group run his Twitter he should put his money where his mouth is.

Christ.

This is a local shop for local people...

Siddo wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:27 pm

This post tells me two things; that people will back this government, the worst in living memory, no matter what they do; and that Jakubclaret is a bit thick

That’s basically how I see things, you bring children into this world you need to provide for them or wear contraception, people can blame the virus but you need to plan & think ahead & prepare yourself for all eventualities being a responsible parent, it’s only the same as being off work on long term sick you cover yourself with insurance or dip into your savings or find alternative employment unaffected by the virus.

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:32 pm

Christ.

Seems to be how he is portrayed in the media!

MACCA wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:25 pm

Food vouchers or vouchers for supermarkets?

Regardless of what vouchers are given, they can still be sold, and yes I know it's hard to believe but sadly it does happen.

You’re right, we should let all the children in poor families suffer because some might abuse the help given. I notice you’re asking people to sign a petition to help the self employed. Presumably you’re 100% confident no one will abuse that?

I really dont like the idea of attacking Higginbothan for things like his appearance. It is his reprehensible actions we should be focusing on as this vote and what the Tory govt are saying through it is very serious

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:57 pm

I don’t know how anyone can justify choosing to see people starve.

Nobody without some kind of eating disorder is going to starve in the UK.

This isn't a black and white case as many here have tried to portray it. It's a case of drawing a line. The line has to go somewhere.

The line has been drawn.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:21 pm

I agree 100% but don’t give me this rubbish that a local MP is to blame for kids going short.
Get the f’in stew pot on , costs very little

I'd pay good money to watch you starve, but thankfully I'm bright enough to realise you are just a thick keyboard warrior. Nice try, but failed miserably.