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The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:20 pm
by fanzone
Trump or Biden?
Trump all the way.
He's a bit eccentric but pre pandemic Americas economy were the best it's been for decades and he has made ore moves for peace in the middle East than any president for decades.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:22 pm
by mill hill claret
I also think trump
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:24 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Bidens odds on but I think trump too.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:25 pm
by Billy Balfour
I bet it will be an OAP.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:25 pm
by PhiladelphiaChris
From what i am seeing over here i think Biden by a long way.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:26 pm
by ElectroClaret
Trump comin' up on the rails, but neither is particularly inspiring.
Too close to call.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:27 pm
by Steddyman
Biden. I don't want World War 3.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:32 pm
by bfcjg
The leading country of the free world and it is down to these two .
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:38 pm
by Spijed
All the analysis you'll need:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:45 pm
by LoveCurryPies
I hate Trump. Lies, lies, lies. He is only concerned about one thing....Donald Trump.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:53 pm
by Burnley1989
Imagine that choice? What is it with lunatics controlling the asylum at the minute? Is it down to social media and fake news?
I remember seeing Boris on that Zip line and rugby tackling the German and thinking, thank god he doesn’t rule the UK
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:54 pm
by Burnley1989
bfcjg wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:32 pm
The leading country of the free world and it is down to these two .
With everything going on, absolutely nothing surprises me anymore, the worlds mental
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:06 pm
by Spiral
Steddyman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:27 pm
Biden. I don't want World War 3.
You want the world to be...
...*drum roll*...
steady, man aaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:11 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Biden, then when he pops his clogs in office they end up with a Black female president and let's be honest that would be amusing to watch large numbers of their population have a meltdown.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:12 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Steddyman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:27 pm
Biden. I don't want World War 3.
Trump is the first president in several decades to not start a fight abroad...
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:15 pm
by what_no_pies
"Biden. I don't want World War 3."
Is Trump more likely to lead us into a major conflict than Biden?
I despise Donald Trump with every fibre of my being but I understand that he's the first President since Regan to not start a war. He might just be the best of these two bad uns.
Voting for the least **** is typical of todays politics mind.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:15 pm
by Bosscat
Wheres our old m8 Turtle with his Trump watch posts
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:15 pm
by CombatClaret
bfcjg wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:32 pm
The leading country of the free world and it is down to these two .
I don't get it when people have this kind of sentiment, as if Biden is somehow tied with Trump on any metric tangible or intangible. Is there someone in the USA who would make a better president, most probably, but they were not in the position to get nominated so lets not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Is Biden inspiring or represent any great shift from President's we've seen in the past? No not really, he's a statesman as opposed to a personality like the current Whitehouse or No10 resident, but I'd much prefer a statesman in charge of a state.
He's a career politician with a long list of achievements plus the experience of being VP.
With one in for UK citizens now believing in some kind of global conspiracy nonsense I'm sure someone will pipe up with dementia or child molestation claims
Biden to me represents a seemingly honest if not boring pair of hands and I for one cannot wait for a boring statesman to be in charge. Reminds me a bit of Starmer
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:19 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:15 pm
"Biden. I don't want World War 3."
Is Trump more likely to lead us into a major conflict than Biden?
I despise Donald Trump with every fibre of my being but I understand that he's the first President since Regan to not start a war. He might just be the best of these two bad uns.
Voting for the least **** is typical of todays politics mind.
Reagan bombed Libya.
I think it's Carter.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:25 pm
by Cubanclaret
Biden, for the sake of the planet, the most under discussed issue confronting mankind is the climate crisis and Trump doesn't think it's a problem.
(I fear Trump might get in, I won a few quid on him last time, plenty of ashamed Trump voters like shy tories over here, the pollsters don't seem to pick them up)
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:30 pm
by Joe14
Depressing whatever the result.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 pm
by RingoMcCartney
Former President, Bill Clinton has been out of politics for 20 years.
He's younger than the pair of 'em.......
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 pm
by Damo
From what I've read on twitter, its Biden
So I'd put my house on trump
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:37 pm
by CombatClaret
Joe14 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:30 pm
Depressing whatever the result.
Any specific reasons again Biden (I can understand Trump) or just general political apathy and a feeling that someone in public service for 50 years must have ill motives?
And If not one of those two who specifically in the US political sphere would you rather see in the Whitehouse?
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:38 pm
by RingoMcCartney
Damo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 pm
From what I've read on twitter, its Biden
So
I'd put my house on trump
Imploding Walton would actually pay you to do that.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:40 pm
by Damo
CombatClaret wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:37 pm
Any specific reasons again Biden (I can understand Trump) or just general political apathy and a feeling that someone in public service for 50 years must have ill motives?
And If not one of those two who specifically in the US political sphere would you rather see in the Whitehouse?
He's a communist and will bankrupt the country with his madcap ideas.
Assuming that would have implications for the financial sector in the uk
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:41 pm
by Steddyman
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:12 pm
Trump is the first president in several decades to not start a fight abroad...
So he's been friendly to China and Mexico then?
He doesn't need to start a fight abroad, he has everyone on the streets fighting each other.
Narcistic and a pathological liar. The worst of humanity wrapped up in an orange umpa lumpa. Who in their right mind could ever vote for him
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:42 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Steddyman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:41 pm
So he's been friendly to China and Mexico then?
He doesn't need to start a fight abroad, he has everyone on the streets fighting each other.
Narcistic and a pathological liar. The worst of humanity wrapped up in an orange umpa lumpa. Who in their right mind could ever vote for him
He did successfully get Israel and some Muslim states on side.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:44 pm
by CombatClaret
RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 pm
Former President, Bill Clinton has been out of politics for 20 years.
He's younger than the pair of 'em.......
Clinton was the third youngest president in history and Trump/Biden are both under the average US life expectancy which has more than doubled since the birth of the USA.
So not sure what insight we're men to glean from that.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:46 pm
by tiger76
It should be Biden, and although by no means perfect his presidency might (and I stress might) lead to more bi-partisanship in both houses.
I long for the good old days when politics was dull, and it'd also be good to see Kamala Harris in such a prominent role, and the likely next president of the USA.
This video from Utah shows that there is some politicians who want to work together despite being in opposite camps, and this is desperately needed in the US right now, people are bored of the tribalism, and are crying out for leadership and consensus.
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/10/2 ... n-politics
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:49 pm
by HahaYeah
The Donald has popular support - thousands go to his events while no one turns out for Biden and Harris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWio85-WWXw
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:50 pm
by CombatClaret
Damo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:40 pm
He's a communist and will bankrupt the country with his madcap ideas.
Assuming that would have implications for the financial sector in the uk
I look forward to the next time you are offended by someone calling anyone on the right fascists'.
Ad hominem attacks over anything reasonable or of substance when asked for genuine discussion.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:52 pm
by tim_noone
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:12 pm
Trump is the first president in several decades to not start a fight abroad...
Apart from getting up one morning and blowing the Iranian chap to bits after a hearty breakfast and a cup of coffee......
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:52 pm
by RingoMcCartney
CombatClaret wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:44 pm
Clinton was the third youngest president in history and Trump/Biden are both under the average US life expectancy which has more than doubled since the birth of the USA.
So not sure what insight we're men to glean from that.
Glean whatever you like from it. It sounds as though , that by out living the average US citizen , you feel the two of 'em deserve a medal.
"The two of you are worryingly 3rd rate and unsuitable for the job, but congratulations on not being dead!"
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:52 pm
by Spijed
At the last election how many people turned up for a Conservative event in comparison to the Momentum supporters for Jeremy Corbyn?
It meant nothing when the Tories got an 80 seat majority.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:57 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
I don't know why folk are so bothered either way, every US President in the last 20/30 years has been f***ing mental.
Apart from the black one obviously, he was groovy and didn't put a foot wrong.
Anyway, we had Boff Johnson and the scruffy immigrant lover to choose from last time out. Hardly ideal.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:03 am
by CombatClaret
RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:52 pm
Glean whatever you like from it. It sounds as though , that by out living the average US citizen , you feel the two of 'em deserve a medal.
"The two of you are worryingly 3rd rate and unsuitable for the job, but congratulations on not being dead!"
I'm not the one who brought up their age, you did
And now you cannot express why it's relevant so instead must turn it on me.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:04 am
by Damo
CombatClaret wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:50 pm
I look forward to the next time you are offended by someone calling anyone on the right fascists'.
Ad hominem attacks over anything reasonable or of substance when asked for genuine discussion.
I'm never offended when you call people fascist
It wasn't an attack
What was unreasonable about what I said?
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:06 am
by HahaYeah
Watch LIVE: President Trump Holds Make America Great Again Rally in Pensacola, FL 10-23-20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUyGjBKyKVQ
Right Side Broadcasting Network
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:08 am
by CombatClaret
Damo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:04 am
It wasn't an attack
What was unreasonable about what I said?
Joe Biden is a communist.
Where has he express that all property should be owned by the community and that US citizens should contribute and receive according to their ability and needs?
He supports some socialist ideas but he is not a communist by any stretch of the meaning.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:14 am
by kritichris
Trump is frightening, if Nixon were still alive and had Trump as advisor he'd never have been impeached, what he (Trump) has gotten away with defies belief. Mind you it's the same over here. In the good old days if a Minister's department made a balls up the Minister resigned, now the minister or even an MP can make their own mega balls up and completely get away with it, sod accountability. So, re-elect the sociopath or his septuagenerian democratic democratic opponent? I'm not ageist, being 67, but surely they could have come up with a better option. After all that, hopefully Biden.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:21 am
by RingoMcCartney
CombatClaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:03 am
I'm not the one who brought up their age, you did
And now you cannot express why it's relevant so instead must turn it on me.
As I said , glean whatever you want from it. I gleaned from your reply that , for your you, living beyond the average life expectancy of the average US citizen, was for both candidates, something of an achievement. You may not find it relevant that a former president who's been out of politics for 20 years is younger than both candidates. I can live with that.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:37 am
by PeterWilton
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:12 pm
Trump is the first president in several decades to not start a fight abroad...
Not for the want of trying. He tried to start a war with Iran at the beginning of the year, but everyone's forgot about that.
Obama didn't start any wars though. So you're wrong there too.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:43 am
by PeterWilton
Damo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:40 pm
He's a communist and will bankrupt the country with his madcap ideas.
Assuming that would have implications for the financial sector in the uk
This is the level of craziness we're dealing with from the right. Biden is a "communist" to these nut jobs.
There's literally nothing about Biden that has ever signalled that he's a communist, but because he isn't an unfettered-capitalism capitalist then to these guys he's a "communist".
Anyone calling him a communist just shouldn't be listened to. They've signalled their utter irrelevance.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:46 am
by PeterWilton
CombatClaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:08 am
Joe Biden is a communist.
Where has he express that all property should be owned by the community and that US citizens should contribute and receive according to their ability and needs?
He supports some socialist ideas but he is not a communist by any stretch of the meaning.
I think Damo is trolling to try and derail the discussion. Just report him because he's probably trying to cause the thread to get locked like the others he's helped get locked.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:50 am
by PeterWilton
And that would explain why Covid spreads so much in areas where Trump has rallies. Democrats aren't stupid. They take the virus seriously.
I'm more than happy to see Trumpists gathering together in close quarters during this pandemic. As long as they don't then go near good people. If they want to kill themselves then good luck to them.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:06 am
by PeterWilton
I'm hoping Biden will win so that the left can start going on the offensive again with a leftist agenda rather than just having to defend the basic freedoms they enjoy, and which have been attacked and diminished over the last 4 years.
And the potential for a presidential crimes commission is just too popcorn worthy because Trump has committed so many crimes in broad daylight and right in front of us that I can't even imagine everything he'll have been upto in secret.
But there's about 30% of me that thinks he's going to successfully steal the election, or have his Russian handlers steal it for him since we already know they had that capability in 2016 (but were supposed to believe they didn't change vote totals that time).
The next 11 days, and the post election day days should be a lot of fun for those of us who enjoy being proven right about bad people.
When Hitler knew he had lost he retreated to a bunker and did the right thing. We know Trump admires Hitler, and he has a bunker, so maybe it'll be Mike Pence who hands over the Presidency.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:23 am
by Bin Ont Turf
PeterWilton wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:06 am
I'm hoping Biden will win so that the left can start going on the offensive again with a leftist agenda rather than just having to defend the basic freedoms they enjoy, and which have been attacked and diminished over the last 4 years.
And the potential for a presidential crimes commission is just too popcorn worthy because Trump has committed so many crimes in broad daylight and right in front of us that I can't even imagine everything he'll have been upto in secret.
But there's about 30% of me that thinks he's going to successfully steal the election, or have his Russian handlers steal it for him since we already know they had that capability in 2016 (but were supposed to believe they didn't change vote totals that time).
The next 11 days, and the post election day days should be a lot of fun for those of us who enjoy being proven right about bad people.
When Hitler knew he had lost he retreated to a bunker and did the right thing. We know Trump admires Hitler, and he has a bunker, so maybe it'll be Mike Pence who hands over the Presidency.
WOW!
Mental candidates, for mental people.
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:41 am
by Damo
PeterWilton wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:46 am
I think Damo is trolling to try and derail the discussion. Just report him because he's probably trying to cause the thread to get locked like the others he's helped get locked.
What thread have I helped to get locked?
I've literally never reported anyone on here (apart from the spam bots trying to sell trainers)
You on the other hand post defamation and libelous stuff on almost every thread you post on.
You are on about your 15th account because of stuff like this. I've never even been suspended because I don't cause trouble for the moderators.
Sort yourself out
Re: The next American President?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:01 am
by Taffy on the wing
fanzone wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:20 pm
Trump or Biden?
Trump all the way.
He's a bit eccentric but pre pandemic Americas economy were the best it's been for decades and he has made ore moves for peace in the middle East than any president for decades.
Dream on........Worst President and worst person... EVER!
Nobody comes close to his ineptitude.
You're either on the wind-up or you're a person with little or no judge of character!
