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Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:58 pm
by tiger76
92nd grand prix win after victory in Portugal, I guess the next target is 100, and you wouldn't bet against him achieving that at some point next season.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:15 pm
by Rileybobs
Well done to him. One of the country’s greatest sportsperson of all time.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:21 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Obviously very good at his profession. Doesn't stop him from being an idiot in my opinion.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:29 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:21 pm
Obviously very good at his profession. Doesn't stop him from being an idiot in my opinion.
On what do you base your opinion?
Enlighten us just to pass the afternoon.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:36 pm
by gandhisflipflop
I don't have to enlighten anybody. I think he is an idiot. It's my opinion. The way he has behaved during the BLM saga this summer has gone a long way to cementing my opinion of him. The resident sandal wearers will be along anytime to shout me down. I'm going to pass the afternoon by watching the footy. Have a good one.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:42 pm
by bfcmik
huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:29 pm
On what do you base your opinion?
Enlighten us just to pass the afternoon.
Sometimes you just have to let the haters hate!

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:43 pm
by Rileybobs
I don’t get the dislike for Hamilton. He seems like a genuinely nice and humble guy. Doesn’t ever seem to make the headlines for the wrong reasons.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:44 pm
by taio
Bit of a knob but without doubt one of the best British sportsman ever.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:45 pm
by Caballo
Great achievement. Stats says he the best ever, but I'd still have MS as my principal driver were I running a fantasy all time formula 1 team. Through either luck or nous (I suspect the latter) Hamilton has had the 'form' machinery for the most part of his career, Schumacher cajoled some very average cars to the top step of the podium. Not even sure he'd make my 2nd driver, I think John Surtess would occupy that berth, the only man to be F1 and Moto GP (as is now).

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:46 pm
by Corky
huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:29 pm
On what do you base your opinion?
Enlighten us just to pass the afternoon.
Evidently it's because Hamilton had the nerve to be black. I'm sure the real Gandhi would have been so proud of the flip-flop wearing racist.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:54 pm
by jrgbfc
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:43 pm
I don’t get the dislike for Hamilton. He seems like a genuinely nice and humble guy. Doesn’t ever seem to make the headlines for the wrong reasons.
Maybe it's the holier than thou attitude whilst he chooses to reside in Monaco so he doesn't pay any UK tax. Or preaching about going Vegan to save the planet while flying around in a private jet and taking millions of pounds in sponsorship money from companies that rely on fossil fuels.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:58 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Corky wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:46 pm
Evidently it's because Hamilton had the nerve to be black. I'm sure the real Gandhi would have been so proud of the flip-flop wearing racist.
That didn't take long did it. Some people will not see the woods from the trees. Having my opinion does not make me a racist. And I take objection at being called that. People like yourself who cry racism at every given opportunity are part of a wider issue. Anyway. Im logging off now to enjoy the football as I really can't be arsed with responses as pathetic and predictable as this. Have a good day.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:16 pm
by Devils_Advocate
gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:58 pm
That didn't take long did it. Some people will not see the woods from the trees. Having my opinion does not make me a racist. And I take objection at being called that. People like yourself who cry racism at every given opportunity are part of a wider issue. Anyway. Im logging off now to enjoy the football as I really can't be arsed with responses as pathetic and predictable as this. Have a good day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HnNBxN ... aulBeattie

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:16 pm
by Rileybobs
jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:54 pm
Maybe it's the holier than thou attitude whilst he chooses to reside in Monaco so he doesn't pay any UK tax. Or preaching about going Vegan to save the planet while flying around in a private jet and taking millions of pounds in sponsorship money from companies that rely on fossil fuels.
I haven’t come across this holier than thou attitude or preaching which is why I don’t get people’s dislike of him.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:21 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:29 pm
On what do you base your opinion?
Enlighten us just to pass the afternoon.
Whinges about black lives etc, despite having a reasonably good upbringing.
Works for, and is sponsored by, companies with proven links to the Nazi regime and doing well off the back of it, but is happy to take their millions whilst sheltering in tax havens etc.

Brilliant driver and rightly recognised as one of the best of all time, he's just a bellend though outside of F1.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:25 pm
by Herts Clarets
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:21 pm

Works for, and is sponsored by, companies with proven links to the Nazi regime and doing well off the back of it, but is happy to take their millions
You do know the Nazi regime was defeated 75 years ago?

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:27 pm
by Dixie Normous
He made us laugh when he talked about coming from the slums of Stevenage. His house was sold for a million plus and it peed off a lot of Stevenage folk. The ghetto it Ain't

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:28 pm
by bodge
I've no problem with Hamilton but if he was to accelerate like that on the M62 and reach crazy speeds I'd be really angry.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:32 pm
by Zlatan
As someone who has met Lewis and also used to think he was an arrogant knob, I can confirm he is. I won’t go into finer details but he had a hissy fit because things weren’t quite right when he was at the establishment where I met him (he was overheard by someone close to me). Part of the problem was having to “mingle” with normal people.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:42 pm
by taio
Zlatan wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:32 pm
As someone who has met Lewis and also used to think he was an arrogant knob, I can confirm he is. I won’t go into finer details but he had a hissy fit because things weren’t quite right when he was at the establishment where I met him (he was overheard by someone close to me). Part of the problem was having to “mingle” with normal people.
He's certainly widely regarded as arrogant in motor racing circles so your experience doesn't surprise me. Brilliant sportsman which I'm sure is all he cares about but he has always struggled to connect with the public for obvious reasons.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:14 pm
by AlargeClaret
It’s more a case of lefties wanting people to dislike him.so they can call the inevitable . He’s a superb driver and imo an all time “ top 10” driver . It’s almost impossible to compare drivers from different generations and cars though . Only probs is LH has had a car for yrs now that is almost unbeatable whereas say MS always had to fight tooth and nail , Button outpointed him too . Of the last 25 yrs I’d say he’d be matched with Schumacher , Prost, Senna ,Räikkönen and Alonso and possibly Verstappen

He’s the ultimate modern driver, hopeless at car management but incredibly quick when everything is perfect .

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:35 pm
by BurnleyFC
Well done, Lewis.

PS: You’re still at ****.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:39 pm
by Lowbankclaret
Herts Clarets wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:25 pm
You do know the Nazi regime was defeated 75 years ago?
It was , but companies and people who were even near slavery are being held to account generations after the event, so why not Mercedes.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:43 pm
by Terrier
Herts, you do realise that slavery in the us ended in 1865
a long time before the nazi's were defeated but for some reason slavery seems to get a lot more noise!

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:24 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Herts Clarets wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:25 pm
You do know the Nazi regime was defeated 75 years ago?
Tell that to the idiots who defaced Churchill...

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:57 pm
by Herts Clarets
Terrier wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:43 pm
Herts, you do realise that slavery in the us ended in 1865
a long time before the nazi's were defeated but for some reason slavery seems to get a lot more noise!
I am fully aware. And would have exactly the same response if you had said Lewis is sponsored by a company linked to slavery 150 years ago. We can do nothing about the past but everything about the present.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:09 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Herts Clarets wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:57 pm
I am fully aware. And would have exactly the same response if you had said Lewis is sponsored by a company linked to slavery 150 years ago. We can do nothing about the past but everything about the present.
The issue people have is him supporting a movement that's all about righting the wrongs of slavery whilst taking money from two companies with a more recent history of profiting from slavery of non black people and not saying about it.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:18 pm
by Rileybobs
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:09 pm
The issue people have is him supporting a movement that's all about righting the wrongs of slavery whilst taking money from two companies with a more recent history of profiting from slavery of non black people and not saying about it.
Are you talking about BLM? If so, how does him supporting that movement have anything to do with him working for a company that had links with the Nazi party 70 years ago?

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:27 pm
by Burnley1989
This thread went exactly the way I expected when I opened it.

Great driver, one of the best, if not then certainly the top 3. As a person I’ve not a clue what he’s like, my colleagues have met him when working at MCLaren and said he was ok. He doesn’t have the same infectious personality that some of the big stars do, but there’s plenty of top stars that are the same, I doubt they care :lol:

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:33 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:18 pm
Are you talking about BLM? If so, how does him supporting that movement have anything to do with him working for a company that had links with the Nazi party 70 years ago?
A number of companies have started to openly speak about their connections with slavery in the UK, some are looking at paying reparations as a result.

He's supporting that because its about slavery of and wrongs committed against black people but he keeps quiet when its other people.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:37 pm
by Rileybobs
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:33 pm
A number of companies have started to openly speak about their connections with slavery in the UK, some are looking at paying reparations as a result.

He's supporting that because its about slavery of and wrongs committed against black people but he keeps quiet when its other people.
So what exactly would you like him to come out and say?

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:39 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:37 pm
So what exactly would you like him to come out and say?
Denounce all or nothing, I'm sure you understand my point, you're just being tedious and dragging this out for some obscure reason.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:44 pm
by Rileybobs
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:39 pm
Denounce all or nothing, I'm sure you understand my point, you're just being tedious and dragging this out for some obscure reason.
I’m being tedious? Do you not think that holding a grudge against Hamilton for driving for a company that once upon a time supported the Nazi party is tedious? Should everyone who drives a Mercedes or BMW or works for either company make a public statement that they don’t agree with their links to the Nazi party more than a lifetime ago?

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:54 pm
by Lowbankclaret
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:44 pm
I’m being tedious? Do you not think that holding a grudge against Hamilton for driving for a company that once upon a time supported the Nazi party is tedious? Should everyone who drives a Mercedes or BMW or works for either company make a public statement that they don’t agree with their links to the Nazi party more than a lifetime ago?
Well they are having to do it for slavery so why not for supporting the nazis.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:56 pm
by Rileybobs
Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:54 pm
Well they are having to do it for slavery so why not for supporting the nazis.
What does this have to do with Hamilton?

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:01 pm
by Jakubclaret
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:44 pm
I’m being tedious? Do you not think that holding a grudge against Hamilton for driving for a company that once upon a time supported the Nazi party is tedious? Should everyone who drives a Mercedes or BMW or works for either company make a public statement that they don’t agree with their links to the Nazi party more than a lifetime ago?
You clearly don't have any Jewish ancestry some people to this day are still majorly jacked off with the Holocaust, time hasn't healed & the scars still show.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:04 pm
by conyoviejo
And heres Jakub..the voice of reason. Lol

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:04 pm
by Rileybobs
OMFG

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:25 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:44 pm
I’m being tedious? Do you not think that holding a grudge against Hamilton for driving for a company that once upon a time supported the Nazi party is tedious? Should everyone who drives a Mercedes or BMW or works for either company make a public statement that they don’t agree with their links to the Nazi party more than a lifetime ago?
Yes you are.

I don't hold a grudge, I'm just giving you a reason why some people are bored of him and which causes he chooses to support.
He takes millions from companies who made millions from slavery/genocide, but says nothing about it whilst simultaneously supporting a movement that basically condemns his country of birth stating its built on the back of slavery/genocidal acts.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:25 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:56 pm
What does this have to do with Hamilton?
Although you're doing really well at it, stop playing dumb.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:27 pm
by Rileybobs
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:25 pm
Yes you are.

I don't hold a grudge, I'm just giving you a reason why some people are bored of him and which causes he chooses to support.
He takes millions from companies who made millions from slavery/genocide, but says nothing about it whilst simultaneously supporting a movement that basically condemns his country of birth stating its built on the back of slavery/genocidal acts.
What’s he supposed to say about it?

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:31 pm
by Rileybobs
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:25 pm
Although you're doing really well at it, stop playing dumb.
It is absolutely not on the shoulders of Hamilton to speak up on the links his employers had with the Nazi Party. His support of other worthy causes has no bearing on this.

I understand entirely the point that you’re trying to make. This isn’t me playing dumb, it’s just me saying that the point you’re trying to make is dumb.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:32 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:27 pm
What’s he supposed to say about it?
Fml.

I've already said he should condemn all, not just be selective about which historical acts of slavery /genocide he doesn't like.

I'm not going to write his speech for him though, despite your repeated requests.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:33 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:31 pm
It is absolutely not on the shoulders of Hamilton to speak up on the links his employers had with the Nazi Party. His support of other worthy causes has no bearing on this.

I understand entirely the point that you’re trying to make. This isn’t me playing dumb, it’s just me saying that the point you’re trying to make is dumb.
So it's fine having it on his shoulders to support BLM and their campaign against historical links in the UK, but not about his employers or sponsors?

Ace thinking there.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:36 pm
by Rileybobs
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:32 pm
Fml.

I've already said he should condemn all, not just be selective about which historical acts of slavery /genocide he doesn't like.

I'm not going to write his speech for him though, despite your repeated requests.
So you don’t think that Hamilton disapproves of the Holocaust?

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:38 pm
by Rileybobs
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:33 pm
So it's fine having it on his shoulders to support BLM and their campaign against historical links in the UK, but not about his employers or sponsors?

Ace thinking there.
Who said he has the plight of the BLM protest on his shoulders? Just because he supports that particular cause doesn’t mean that he should speak up on every single other issue.

I can’t believe I’m having this conversation, even for this forum’s standards.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:43 pm
by Wellsy1882
Cant stand the guy

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:45 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:36 pm
So you don’t think that Hamilton disapproves of the Holocaust?
Dunno, I can only assume he does disapprove of it, but he doesn't mention it because its not something BLM talk about

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:46 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:38 pm
Who said he has the plight of the BLM protest on his shoulders? Just because he supports that particular cause doesn’t mean that he should speak up on every single other issue.

I can’t believe I’m having this conversation, even for this forum’s standards.
I'm not asking to support every single issue last I checked.

I'm saying he should treat all genocide and slavery the same.

I can't believe I'm having this chat with you, you're normally much more sensible than to labour over something like this for some obscure reason.

Re: Well done Lewis Hamilton

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:54 pm
by Rileybobs
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:46 pm
I'm not asking to support every single issue last I checked.

I'm saying he should treat all genocide and slavery the same.

I can't believe I'm having this chat with you, you're normally much more sensible than to labour over something like this for some obscure reason.
Likewise.

I fail to see how Hamilton driving for Mercedes whilst supporting BLM is in any way hypocritical. I don’t think he should be expected to condemn his employer’s involvement with the Nazi Party. In what way does he not treat all genocide and slavery the same? Can you provide any quotes from Hamilton where he treats different types of genocide and slavery in different ways?