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JBG

Post by matttheclaret » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:41 pm

Bit more normality here away from all the takeover talk - JBG a doubt for the Chelsea game according to SD. Calf injury.

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Re: JBG

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:43 pm

No, I can scarcely believe it. :o
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Re: JBG

Post by Bertiebeehead » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:44 pm

Candy floss legs

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Re: JBG

Post by ralphc » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:46 pm

The fact it took somebody so long to comment on it says it all sadly. Thought he had a decent game on Monday but just too light weight now and we can't carry players like this with our squad size.

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Re: JBG

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:05 pm

So where is our wide right player if Johann is out?

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Re: JBG

Post by TVC15 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:08 pm

Brady - the one who every time someone goes within 2 foot of him he holds his ribs in agony

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Re: JBG

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:08 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:05 pm
So where is our wide right player if Johann is out?
We don't have one. It'll be back to Brownhill moving away from his best position.
I think I'd rather see Brady start on the right and keep Brownhill in the middle.

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Re: JBG

Post by Papabendi » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:10 pm

wow if the case. we must be reaching the end of the road with this guy.

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Re: JBG

Post by ralphc » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:11 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:05 pm
So where is our wide right player if Johann is out?
Pieters might be fit :lol:

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Re: JBG

Post by MACCA » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:38 pm

Johann Berg Gonemissing a doubt? well I never.

We could always get Dunne to slot in there, failing that Brady could maybe manage to give us another hour before 2020 is out.

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Re: JBG

Post by NewClaret » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:44 pm

Going to frustrate me more and more every time he’s injured this season! So predictable. Needed cover.

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Re: JBG

Post by clarethomer » Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:49 pm

will either be Brady or will be Brownhill.

If Brownhill then Stephens will go into the middle I would suspect.

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Re: JBG

Post by alboclaret » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:06 pm

Sorry that's my fault.....I said he looked fit other night.
:roll:

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Re: JBG

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:06 pm

Maybe play Dwight wide right
Robbie wide left

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Re: JBG

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:09 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:06 pm
Maybe play Dwight wide right
Robbie wide left
I think Brady is better on the right, and McNeil better on the left.

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Re: JBG

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:12 pm

Never mind cover for Right Wing it’s more important Garlick gets full value for his shares. He might not get a nice round £100 million if he had started denting the accounts with suitable cover. No wonder he’s in a rush to get a deal through before we lose too many more games and have any more injuries.

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Re: JBG

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:17 pm

This is where the lack of investment in the squad hurts us. We have one injury prone player in that position in the squad and the options to cover his inevitable absences are moving Brownhill out there, thus weakening the midfield, or playing a 32 year old left back there who gives his all but will hardly worry oponents going forward.Its really quite pathetic for a Premier League club.
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Re: JBG

Post by IanMcL » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:20 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:05 pm
So where is our wide right player if Johann is out?
We have Jay Rodriguez and a reshuffle with Stephens and Brownhill....or Eric.

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Re: JBG

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:24 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:08 pm
Brady - the one who every time someone goes within 2 foot of him he holds his ribs in agony
That can happen when you’ve had broken ribs and opposition players take every opportunity to stick an elbow in there.
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Re: JBG

Post by MACCA » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:28 pm

I'd personally go

433 / 451

Pope
Lowton Long Tarky Taylor
Brownhill Westwood Stephens
Jay Wood McNeil

451 when defending, 433 when attacking.

Nice and compact and youd expect chrlsea to have a lot of ball, so the extra CM might help us.
Also gives us a threat with extra cover for the turnover.
Jay has played that role before at WBA, so much rather try that than Pieters or Brady to be honest.

R

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Re: JBG

Post by summitclaret » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:43 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:12 pm
Never mind cover for Right Wing it’s more important Garlick gets full value for his shares. He might not get a nice round £100 million if he had started denting the accounts with suitable cover. No wonder he’s in a rush to get a deal through before we lose too many more games and have any more injuries.
This is what I don't get. If we had had decent back up cb/right winger in the first few games, we could well have had a better start. Now the club value will be dropping fast. I have no sympathy for Board about that.

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Re: JBG

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:45 pm

Time to get rid

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Re: JBG

Post by Herts Clarets » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:47 pm

Said it many times, he is like a tampon. In for a week then out for three. Bloke is a liability.
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Re: JBG

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:59 pm

If he was a racehorse he'd be dog meat by now .
Shame, but you start to wonder if he's going to carry on playing much longer

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Re: JBG

Post by Herts Clarets » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:03 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:59 pm
If he was a racehorse he'd be dog meat by now .
Shame, but you start to wonder if he's going to carry on playing much longer
Pretty sure he will see out till June and trouser another million pounds plus.

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Re: JBG

Post by Bosscat » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:05 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:45 pm
Time to get rid
We agree ... off you pop 😁
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Re: JBG

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:37 pm

MACCA wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:28 pm
I'd personally go

433 / 451

Pope
Lowton Long Tarky Taylor
Brownhill Westwood Stephens
Jay Wood McNeil

451 when defending, 433 when attacking.

Nice and compact and youd expect chrlsea to have a lot of ball, so the extra CM might help us.
Also gives us a threat with extra cover for the turnover.
Jay has played that role before at WBA, so much rather try that than Pieters or Brady to be honest.

R
I think it's the law that we have to play 4-4-2 every game no matter what.

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Re: JBG

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:42 pm

Needs shipping off to the glue factory ASAP
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Re: JBG

Post by Papabendi » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:44 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:47 pm
Said it many times, he is like a tampon. In for a week then out for three. Bloke is a liability.
I believe Peter Mumby used to have that tag - however it wasn't his injuries it was the manager!!

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Re: JBG

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:49 pm

What a jovial thread.

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Re: JBG

Post by Wellsy1882 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:20 pm

He plays when he wants

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Re: JBG

Post by tiger76 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:35 pm

Whatever division we are in next season, or whoever owns the club, both Brady & JBG need to be upgraded on, thankfully both are ooc, so the decision might be taken out of our hands.

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Re: JBG

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:29 pm

I've commented on JBG's fitness on here several times in the last couple of seasons and am frustrated, as he must be, with his latest setback but some of the posts on here are unfair and not called for. He's not trying to be injured and I recall several posts re: Steven Defour to be very similar.
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Re: JBG

Post by claret2018 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:38 pm

I wish he’d pack it in with Iceland

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Re: JBG

Post by warksclaret » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:11 pm

He looked disappointed to be subbed on Monday, but looking back he may have told the coaches that his calf was troubling him during HT.

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Re: JBG

Post by jtv » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:42 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:12 pm
Never mind cover for Right Wing it’s more important Garlick gets full value for his shares. He might not get a nice round £100 million if he had started denting the accounts with suitable cover. No wonder he’s in a rush to get a deal through before we lose too many more games and have any more injuries.
Don't you think that spunking 10m on a player would have no real effect on the value of the Club? 10m in the bank = 10m worth of player IMHO

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Re: JBG

Post by what_no_pies » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:17 am

We've not seen the best of JBG for a long time now due to his inability to stay fit. Was starting to look like there might have been a breakthrough this pre season when he was looking strong but an awful tackle and another niggle later and really it's a continuation of the same trend in reality. Such a shame for the lad.

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Re: JBG

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:07 am

Like Defour Johann is a class act
His level of assists are amongst the best around
I personally would ask him to retire from International football to help him stay fit for us.

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Re: JBG

Post by DycheAlmighty » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:08 am

MACCA wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:28 pm
I'd personally go

433 / 451

Pope
Lowton Long Tarky Taylor
Brownhill Westwood Stephens
Jay Wood McNeil

451 when defending, 433 when attacking.

Nice and compact and youd expect chrlsea to have a lot of ball, so the extra CM might help us.
Also gives us a threat with extra cover for the turnover.
Jay has played that role before at WBA, so much rather try that than Pieters or Brady to be honest.

R
I'd agree with that 100%. Chelsea play a very patient ball retention game and last season they beat us comfortably playing 442. A sheer lack of bodies in midfield was our undoing. Mason Mount played just between our defence and midfield, ran things there and Kovacic the same from dpl.

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Re: JBG

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:17 am

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:35 pm
Whatever division we are in next season, or whoever owns the club, both Brady & JBG need to be upgraded on, thankfully both are ooc, so the decision might be taken out of our hands.
We would do well to upgrade on JBG or Brady if we're in the championship.

Isn't JBG our highest assist player in the premier league?

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Re: JBG

Post by Top Claret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:34 am

Season 5 in the Premier league with a 10th finish last season and we still have to rely on a couple of crocks like JBG and Brady and pensioners Pieters and Bardsley.

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