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Claret photo help.

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:30 pm

The photo below appeared on the clubs Nobby Stiles tribute. Can anybody identify the Claret for me?
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Post by Wellsy1882 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:33 pm

Andy Payton?

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Post by Dyched » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:36 pm

It’s not George Boyd

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Post by Targetman » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:56 pm

Is it Les Latcham?

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Post by bobinho » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:02 pm

Dave merrington?

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Post by longsidetrumpet » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:10 pm

Ian Towers
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Post by Bop » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:18 pm

Cummings. Trick question?

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Post by tim_noone » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:26 pm

Geoff Nulty.

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:33 pm

longsidetrumpet wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:10 pm
Ian Towers
Correct, I think.
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Post by conyoviejo » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:36 pm

Ian Towers

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Post by GordonvaleClaret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:12 am

John Talbut
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Post by FCBurnley » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:15 am

Towers for me.

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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:36 am

Thanks, guys. Towers was my guess but still not sure.

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Post by Petersa » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:07 am

At first I thought Towers but the more I look I think Ronnie Fenton

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Post by The Enclosure » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:46 am

Am pretty sure Ian Towers.I dont think Fenton ever played against Man United for Burnley.
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Post by Marney&Mee » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:49 am

“He’s not Robbie Blake...”
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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:02 am

The Enclosure wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:46 am
Am pretty sure Ian Towers.I dont think Fenton ever played against Man United for Burnley.
Correct. You led me to my Clarets Chronicles and Ian Towers played in the home games on 14-4-62 and 4-5-63. With the crowd in attendance I’d expect it to be one of these matches.
It was the mop of hair that made me doubt myself. I don’t recall him having that much in that era, pre-Beatles.
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Post by LeadBelly » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:56 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:02 am
Correct. You led me to my Clarets Chronicles and Ian Towers played in the home games on 14-4-62 and 4-5-63. With the crowd in attendance I’d expect it to be one of these matches.
It was the mop of hair that made me doubt myself. I don’t recall him having that much in that era, pre-Beatles.
In my records, Towers didnt play in that Man U home game 4th May '63 but Peter Simpson played No.10. I dont recall ever seeing Peter Simpson play so Ive no idea if he looked like that. Stiles played in both the games mentioned & Towers played in the April 1962 game - so could well be him in that game. Gates given as 36,240 in 1962 game, "only" 30,266 in the 1963 game. Enclosure looks pretty packed with kids sitting over the wall so- yes probably 1962 and Towers.
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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:22 am

LeadBelly wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:56 am
In my records, Towers didnt play in that Man U home game 4th May '63 but Peter Simpson played No.10. I dont recall ever seeing Peter Simpson play so Ive no idea if he looked like that. Stiles played in both the games mentioned & Towers played in the April 1962 game - so could well be him in that game. Gates given as 36,240 in 1962 game, "only" 30,266 in the 1963 game. Enclosure looks pretty packed with kids sitting over the wall so- yes probably 1962 and Towers.
You are correct. Simpson played 10 and Towers came in for him the next match, away to Leyton Orient. I was out by a line in my check.
Peter Simpson from getty images.
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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:24 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:02 am
Correct. You led me to my Clarets Chronicles and Ian Towers played in the home games on 14-4-62 and 4-5-63. With the crowd in attendance I’d expect it to be one of these matches.
It was the mop of hair that made me doubt myself. I don’t recall him having that much in that era, pre-Beatles.
I think you have a strange version of the Chronicles - no sign of him playing in the 63 game in mine.

But I'm certain that is Ian Towers on the picture.

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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:27 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:24 am
I think you have a strange version of the Chronicles - no sign of him playing in the 63 game in mine.

But I'm certain that is Ian Towers on the picture.
See my correction above.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:41 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:27 am
See my correction above.
Posted while I was posting mine so not there at the time

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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:33 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:41 am
Posted while I was posting mine so not there at the time
No worries.

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Post by Foulthrow » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:00 pm

Peter Simpson has a look of Jay Rod.
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Post by GordonvaleClaret » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:25 pm

v United?
I've not been able to find any reference to the club's tribute to Nobby, suggesting the photo is a game v United, so sticking my neck out.
That bloke messing with Towers is John Talbut. Nobby was only 5'-6", that makes Towers 6'-12". And anyway, the studs are too low for Nobby.
Can someone please put me out of my misery?

PS. Always enjoyed watching Peter Simpson in the reserves and on the few occasions he graced the first team.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:52 pm

Definitely Nobby Stiles and Ian Towers in the picture. Think this was a game in the disastrous run-in of 61-62 where Manchester United played defender,Noel Cantwell, an Irish international, at centre forward and he scored two goals in their victory.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:40 pm

GordonvaleClaret wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:25 pm
v United?
I've not been able to find any reference to the club's tribute to Nobby, suggesting the photo is a game v United, so sticking my neck out.
That bloke messing with Towers is John Talbut. Nobby was only 5'-6", that makes Towers 6'-12". And anyway, the studs are too low for Nobby.
Can someone please put me out of my misery?

PS. Always enjoyed watching Peter Simpson in the reserves and on the few occasions he graced the first team.
I wasn’t certain it was Stiles. He does have a look of Talbut but that photograph is taken some time before Talbut left Burnley.

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Post by LeadBelly » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:01 pm

Agreed it does bear a resemblance to JT but he didn't leave for WBA until 1966 I think.
My recollection is that WBA used to wear their blue/white stripes when they came to us & I doubt theyd pull as big a crowd as the one indicated by that photo (packed enclosure with kids sitting over the wall).

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:33 pm

LeadBelly wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:01 pm
Agreed it does bear a resemblance to JT but he didn't leave for WBA until 1966 I think.
My recollection is that WBA used to wear their blue/white stripes when they came to us & I doubt theyd pull as big a crowd as the one indicated by that photo (packed enclosure with kids sitting over the wall).
And our last season with the hooped socks was 1964/65 while Towers’ last game for Burnley was early 1965/66.

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Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:13 pm

Mick Docherty?

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Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:27 pm

GordonvaleClaret wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:25 pm
v United?
I've not been able to find any reference to the club's tribute to Nobby, suggesting the photo is a game v United, so sticking my neck out.
That bloke messing with Towers is John Talbut. Nobby was only 5'-6", that makes Towers 6'-12". And anyway, the studs are too low for Nobby.
Can someone please put me out of my misery?

PS. Always enjoyed watching Peter Simpson in the reserves and on the few occasions he graced the first team.
We're in danger of overcomplicating matters here. As Silkyskills says, huw's photo definitely features Nobby Stiles and Ian Towers. The game took place on April 14th '62, just three weeks before our FA Cup Final at Wembley against Tottenham. Just a few days after that United game Burnley had their press day for the Cup Final and by that time Ian looked a bit different, with a smart looking hair cut as opposed to the mop of hair on huw's photo.
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Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:11 pm

That 1961/62 season was a quite remarkable one from our point of view. Even after that home defeat to United (game 35 of 42) we were still at the top of the First Division. But those final 7 games had to be played in the last two weeks remaining of the season and it all became a bit too much, particularly with the FA Cup Final still to come a week later.

We ultimately finished second behind Ipswich in the League and, of course, runners-up to Tottenham at Wembley. A 'nearly' season in which we came so close to achieving the double.

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