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Re: Dithering Boris.

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:05 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:01 pm
Well actually I do have many things to do. Certainly not watching BBC all night when the football and rugby is on the other channel. My point is valid. A number of people will have missed this announcement because the delayed time wasn’t communicated.
You’d have to be an astronaut residing in space to not realise the time was delayed & delayed, I had enough reminders to shake a stick at, I was that annoyed with the reminders I purposely never watched, I reckon over 90% of population knew what coming before he confirmed it.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:05 pm

Losing you Inchy , what has the tooth fairy got to do with it.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Inchy » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:05 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:04 pm
How many 40 year olds do you think have died of Covid?


A lot more than what die of flu


I’m done now. Good luck
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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:07 pm

Seriously Inchy the luck belongs with you

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Re: Dithering Boris.

Post by joey13 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:08 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:50 pm
Is there a single person think we would be better off if Prime Minister Corbyn was in number 10?

Labour are sitting back criticising but making few positive suggestions.

I’m not a fan of Boris, merely asking if the election vote had gone the other way would things have been better?
They suggested following Sage advice about locking down weeks ago , wasn’t that a positive suggestion?

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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by alboclaret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:09 pm

Not really the same as before...
If your abiding by the rules/advice then not much will change in your life.
So no extra time at my end to set a challenge

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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:10 pm

Drink more.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:10 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:04 pm
Mr Emoji strikes again
Aye, he does, words simply cannot do your stupidity justice.

I've been off the board for a week, down in Devon, and it is, paradoxically, both amusing and depressing to see nothing has changed - you're still getting a pasting on every issue you discuss. :lol:
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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:10 pm

Keep my faith in the Clarets.

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Re: Dithering Boris.

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:11 pm

Delayed in March and delayed now. All of which has cost families a loved ones life. Least we got to eat out in the summer.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:11 pm

But I’m not Edward , you want to think that

I might need to concede this to you for once but I thought as we are in Tier 3 , we were advised not to leave the area?
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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by MRG » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:12 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:45 pm
I decided to lose weight in the first lockdown and lost 4 stones. Other people learnt to play an instrument or develop new skills.

I’m now wondering what challenge I should now set myself for the next 4 weeks. Top of the challenge list is getting into shape, toning up my muscles via increased exercising and using the old mountain bike I bought last week.

Are you going to set a personal challenge and if so what?

Let’s have a positive thread and try to inspire each other.
How did you lose it?

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Inchy » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:13 pm

The thing is I am seeing young (under 70)people die of covid almost every day. The first person I took into ICU way back was 33. He died, alone.

Clearly you would think my views for lockdown would be strong. I would be forthright with my views. But I’m not. I’ve no idea how to control this virus. I understand that people will be losing their jobs. I understand the knock on effect.

So how people who are not seeing what I’m seeing Are so confident with their opinions is beyond me.

Listen to the scientists and economists, not the politicians. Realise that like me, we all are clueless in how to manage this.
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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:14 pm

Here’s Covid vs past flu seasons, by week (by John Burn-Murdoch)

Data sourced from https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... week_5.pdf

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:14 pm

Elizabeth.

I know you're not Edward.

I never said you were. I said you were getting your usual pasting.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:17 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:11 pm
But I’m not Edward , you want to think that

I might need to concede this to you for once but I thought as we are in Tier 3 , we were advised not to leave the area?


You're not very bright, are you ? Have a look at my location.... :roll:
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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:18 pm

An attempt at humour from you Eddie , doesn’t suit you
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Re: National Tier 4

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:19 pm

Oh dear............

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by CombatClaret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:19 pm

Elizabeth is deliberately drawing people into fights, maybe to get the thread locked stopping sensible people discussing sensible science and/or to stop too much criticism of the government.
Either way he's being deliberately disruptive due to some unknown agenda so best just ignore him.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by TVC15 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:20 pm

Ignore who ?
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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:20 pm

have a look at this, once the journo stops nattering, its interesting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y51GIC ... guTbwkqrO0

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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by Paul Waine » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:22 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:45 pm
I decided to lose weight in the first lockdown and lost 4 stones. Other people learnt to play an instrument or develop new skills.

I’m now wondering what challenge I should now set myself for the next 4 weeks. Top of the challenge list is getting into shape, toning up my muscles via increased exercising and using the old mountain bike I bought last week.

Are you going to set a personal challenge and if so what?

Let’s have a positive thread and try to inspire each other.
Well done, LCP, both in losing 4 stones and in prompting positive plans for LD2.

I've just started physio for a rotator cuff issue. Appointments with physio via zoom. Expectation is 3-6 months to improve. I'm putting this at the top of my list for November/LD2.

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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:22 pm

Just got myself in shape, 60 gym visits since they reopened, learnt a lot so will be maintaining a 30 minute morning work out and 30 minute evening work out which will be tough, but I’m not putting that weight back on. Not giving up booze, done that for a few months at a time and it’s pointless for me, everyone’s different but I enjoy a few bottles of wine at weekend

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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by MDWat » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:23 pm

I lost 2st 7lbs.

Might challenge myself to put it all back on.

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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:25 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:22 pm
Well done, LCP, both in losing 4 stones and in prompting positive plans for LD2.

I've just started physio for a rotator cuff issue. Appointments with physio via zoom. Expectation is 3-6 months to improve. I'm putting this at the top of my list for November/LD2.
Hate to say it mate but I dislocated my shoulder badly when I got pulled into a machine at work, plus my mate and mum damaged theirs, I’ve yet to hear of anybody having much success with it, it’s a bloody nightmare. Best of luck!

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Zlatan » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:26 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:20 pm
have a look at this, once the journo stops nattering, its interesting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y51GIC ... guTbwkqrO0
The guy is a crank, a fake
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Re: Dithering Boris.

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:27 pm

Come on lads, UK is going into lock down and we can all make political political gains out of this: it's those tory toffs, who couldn't give a f.uck about the working classes, all they care about is lining their own pockets and their bankerfriends and, millionaire friends. They only reason they are in power is because of the right wing press, they are all Islamophobia racists, who hate the EU and the rest of the world, especially immigrants from anywhere. Perfect chance for you all. Beware, the end is nigh.

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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:29 pm

MDWat wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:23 pm
I lost 2st 7lbs.

My challenge myself to put it all back on.

I challenge you to run a half marathon between now and December 1st.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:29 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:05 pm
I refuse to believe that anybody could be dumb enough to genuinely think it's a hoax. It's not possible if you're over 4 years old.
Que Elizabeth and Ringo

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:29 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:26 pm
The guy is a crank, a fake
I know he doesn’t share the mainstream scientific opinion right now, but what is the evidence that he is a fake?

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Re: Dithering Boris.

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:30 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:01 pm
Well actually I do have many things to do. Certainly not watching BBC all night when the football and rugby is on the other channel. My point is valid. A number of people will have missed this announcement because the delayed time wasn’t communicated.
Sorry you wanted to watch a different channel. FFS

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Re: Dithering Boris.

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:31 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:11 pm
Delayed in March and delayed now. All of which has cost families a loved ones life. Least we got to eat out in the summer.
Yes it was worth it.
My rib eye steak was exquisite. My granny on the other hand was a miserable old trout 🤭.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:33 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:15 pm
You really are very dense aren’t you? You’re like a Karen from Facebook, someone who blows hot air and generally knows f#ck all about anything but still wants to educate the rest of us with your conspiracy theories.

I think you’re very sad, very sad indeed.
The scary thing is Elizabeth genuinely believes she is right, I actually can’t believe there are people this thick in this day and age.

The problem with People like Elizabeth is the spout such nonsense that people could believe her and she could directly cause the death of people by spreading the illness

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by mdd2 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:33 pm

Flu deaths are at best a guestimate as testing for flu outside of hospitals is rarely done and the infections start when the bug arrives. Fortunately judging by how things panned out in winter in the antipedes we are likely to have a mild outbreak of flu this winter.
But it is nice to read that this Government is so bad that it is doing its best to get thrown out in2023/24 by shutting down the economy twice under the pre text of a virus that doesn't cause much illness and the deaths which are being caused by flu which has yet to arrive, are being re-classified as Covid-19.
I assume Inchy is also a plant masquerading as a claret making things up about the case mix in Leeds, which interestingly matches my colleagues experiences in Manchester with some fatalities in otherwise healthy men under 30.
Anyway S(He) who knows not and knows not that s(he) knows not is a fool shun him/her
S(He) who knows not and knows that s(he) knows not is reachable, so teach him/her
But he who knows and knows that he knows is wise follow him.
So I wonder if Elizabeth can be helped by KSclaret or Inchy :D :D :D

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Re: Dithering Boris.

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:34 pm

We are in lockdown because people didn’t follow the regulations. Everyone whose tried to get round it, “we’ll be alright just nipping round to...”, all those who false details or wouldn’t help the track and trace etc are all as culpable as Boris.

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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by Darthlaw » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:36 pm

My challenge in the first lockdown was to lose a stone.

I’m only two stone from my target, going into this lockdown.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:36 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:29 pm
Que Elizabeth and Ringo
They’re different people?

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:37 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:29 pm
I know he doesn’t share the mainstream scientific opinion right now, but what is the evidence that he is a fake?
When he comes out of his echo chamber and challenges a proper medical expert he gets shown up as the crank he is

Alan McNally
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A lockdown is inevitable and now necessary. It has taken too long due to those feeding a narrative of casedemic and Covid denying. These people are complicit in deaths and should hang their heads in shame

Yardley Yeadon
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Alan, you’ve clearly not being paying attention.
The pandemic is over. Months ago.
Everything now is medical testing fraud, which is why the characteristics of those dying after a positive test are random & wholly different from spring.


Alan McNally
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I run a testing lab. I helped set up and run the first lighthouse lab. Your suggestion is preposterous. At Birmingham we sequence every positive test. They all contain SARS-CoV-2. Your rantings are dangerous and you should take a break from Twitter
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Re: National Tier 4

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:38 pm

Elizabeth, you can quit the fishing now. There's a time and a place for it, and I don't think this thread is the place.

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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:39 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:45 pm
I decided to lose weight in the first lockdown and lost 4 stones. Other people learnt to play an instrument or develop new skills.

I’m now wondering what challenge I should now set myself for the next 4 weeks. Top of the challenge list is getting into shape, toning up my muscles via increased exercising and using the old mountain bike I bought last week.

Are you going to set a personal challenge and if so what?

Let’s have a positive thread and try to inspire each other.
You are going to have to change your log in name if you have lost 4 stones.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Zlatan » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:41 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:29 pm
I know he doesn’t share the mainstream scientific opinion right now, but what is the evidence that he is a fake?
The flip side is - do you have any evidence he is genuine? Considering that he is openly denying that a second wave is in progress, when it clearly is, tells me he is a fraud and a fake.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:42 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:06 pm
It could easily run into 10s of thousands.

I think I'm right in saying around 3500 men have been.diagnosed with prostrate cancer and have yet to receive any treatment whatsoever......
So not only have the government's handling of the pandemic cost thousands of lives of covid victims, they have cost thousands of lives of other patients.

And still you won't accept they ****** it up.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Zlatan » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:43 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:37 pm
When he comes out of his echo chamber and challenges a proper medical expert he gets shown up as the crank he is

Alan McNally
@alanmcn1

A lockdown is inevitable and now necessary. It has taken too long due to those feeding a narrative of casedemic and Covid denying. These people are complicit in deaths and should hang their heads in shame

Yardley Yeadon
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Alan, you’ve clearly not being paying attention.
The pandemic is over. Months ago.
Everything now is medical testing fraud, which is why the characteristics of those dying after a positive test are random & wholly different from spring.


Alan McNally
@alanmcn1

I run a testing lab. I helped set up and run the first lighthouse lab. Your suggestion is preposterous. At Birmingham we sequence every positive test. They all contain SARS-CoV-2. Your rantings are dangerous and you should take a break from Twitter
Thanks DA, answered it better than I did

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:45 pm

Honestly Frank, I’m not ( and I like you so wouldn’t play around with you)

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:48 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:37 pm
When he comes out of his echo chamber and challenges a proper medical expert he gets shown up as the crank he is

Alan McNally
@alanmcn1

A lockdown is inevitable and now necessary. It has taken too long due to those feeding a narrative of casedemic and Covid denying. These people are complicit in deaths and should hang their heads in shame

Yardley Yeadon
@MichaelYeadon3

Alan, you’ve clearly not being paying attention.
The pandemic is over. Months ago.
Everything now is medical testing fraud, which is why the characteristics of those dying after a positive test are random & wholly different from spring.


Alan McNally
@alanmcn1

I run a testing lab. I helped set up and run the first lighthouse lab. Your suggestion is preposterous. At Birmingham we sequence every positive test. They all contain SARS-CoV-2. Your rantings are dangerous and you should take a break from Twitter
Interesting. Hard to know what he has to gain from making such accusations, as he seems to be a very well qualified and experienced scientist in his own right holding very influential positions in his career. Very odd.

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:50 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:41 pm
The flip side is - do you have any evidence he is genuine? Considering that he is openly denying that a second wave is in progress, when it clearly is, tells me he is a fraud and a fake.
I was just asking the question, which DA answered well.

I was interested because, on the surface, this guy seems to have had a very good scientific career and has held some very senior positions. Do you really do that if you’re a fake? Hard to know, but it’s unusual.

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Re: Your personal 2nd lock down challenge...

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:51 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:39 pm
You are going to have to change your log in name if you have lost 4 stones.
I’m thinking ‘Stilllovepiesjustsmallerones’ ?

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Re: National Tier 4

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:51 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:43 pm
I may be wrong about all this but I maintain it doesn’t warrant the damage to lives and the economy it is causing.
Let people have their beliefs , remember resorting to insults should not be necessary if you are so sure in your beliefs. I respect Inchy for posting what he did at the end.
The others?
Reported you a number of times tonight. Hope Tony does the right thing and bans your account.

Your posts will directly result in the spread of the virus.

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Re: Dithering Boris.

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:51 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:34 pm
We are in lockdown because people didn’t follow the regulations. Everyone whose tried to get round it, “we’ll be alright just nipping round to...”, all those who false details or wouldn’t help the track and trace etc are all as culpable as Boris.
That's not why we're in another lockdown. We're in another lockdown because it's impossible for kids to go to school, people to go to work, shops, pubs and restaurants without spreading the virus.

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Re: Dithering Boris.

Post by Foreverly Claret » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:52 pm

To be fair this would have been a nightmare for ANY government and even though I can't take BJ seriously I do actually feel a little sorry for him because the subs bench is crap...Handjob , Whateley , Jenrick..there's nobody in the team to inspire confidence...just a bunch of sycophants which is probably, on reflection , how he likes it and , after all , HE chose them...but he could have had Jeremy Hunt as Health Secretary...BIG mistake not appointing him...well liked within the NHS , a good communicator and well on top of his brief. Never mind there are three rays of sunshine...and we still have The Premier League...which will do my elderly aunt locked in her nursing home in Colne a power of good....I can't even see her through the window now.

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