Relegation or takeover ?

[Dark Cloud]

I want Dyche to sort himself out. He seems to me a big cause of our lack of morale.

I accept that injuries and our financial situation with Covid are factors but him sniping in the media after the restart and into this season was out of order. He's an employee and should toe the line. Disagreements should remain within the club. Instead he's used the media to either express his frustrations or worse, tried to manipulate things for either his professional or personal advantage - professional in that he was trying to get more funds to spend; personal in trying to pass the blame for what he sees as our possible or imminent failure.

If he can't shut up, or get his act together, he should be shown the door. No person is bigger then the club.

I'm inclined to agree with pretty much all of this and love Dyche as I do for everything he's brought us in the past 7 years I did feel he was overstepping badly when he first went public with his disagreements with the chairman over spending and recruitment and I can understand if Garlick was extremely annoyed and may have suggested the discussions/disagreements SHOULD have been kept behind closed doors. Hence positions became entrenched. Dyche started bleating publicly back when the PL first restarted and it seems to me that it's a big reason why we're where we are currently.

[Jimmymaccer]

I wonder what the wider effect would be on the town? Premier League attracts big crowds from which many local businesses benefit although that’s countered by fewer matches....

[Woonderbah]

It's far easier for a team to stay in the PL than get promoted to it. Relegation would not be a progressive step for our club.
Something's not right with morale and we seem to go thru this trough every season but we've always found our peak again. We need a win.

[Stayingup]

Is Dyche's stock realistically that high now? Rightly or wrongly he's come to be regarded as Tony Pulis MK2. Unless something drastic happens with us I don't see him getting another Premier league job.

I tell you fans of Derby County for one would love him. Bigger club. They are also involved in takeover talks. There are others too. Dyche is highly regarded for the job hes done for us. Very highly regarded. Who thinks he is a Pulis Mk2? Allardyce Mk2? Maybe
Both had long careers and were regarded as being successful.

[KRBFC]

Takeover we are doomed with Garlick, zero investment in the squad, no idea how Garlick thought leaving us this short was good for anyone

[GodIsADeeJay81]

The bigger Championship clubs will definitely be interested, which Premier league sides would realistically be interested though?

Is this just you ******* on his achievements to date?

He's taken us into Europe.
That's more than Watford ever managed, or Bournemouth and people on here thought Watfords rotating managers door was brilliant and Howe was amazing with his style of play.

I can't even remember the last time West Ham finished that high either.
Palace will need a new boss next summer and same with their league positions.


He has experience, can work within a budget and still outdo his contemporaries.

But yeah, you're probably right, no one's going to be interested in any of the above...

[Burnleyareback2]

We can rebuild in the PL, if you think otherwise then you're a fool.

How? How do we half the wage bill, remove the premier league bonuses and sign players with your the premier league tax/ prices?

Look forward to the reply you buffoon.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

How? How do we half the wage bill, remove the premier league bonuses and sign players with your the premier league tax/ prices?

Look forward to the reply you buffoon.

It's all doable.

We've signed players for great prices who're now PL regulars.

As for halving the wage bill, we've chopped a great big lump off it already.

[jrgbfc]

Is this just you ******* on his achievements to date?

He's taken us into Europe.
That's more than Watford ever managed, or Bournemouth and people on here thought Watfords rotating managers door was brilliant and Howe was amazing with his style of play.

I can't even remember the last time West Ham finished that high either.
Palace will need a new boss next summer and same with their league positions.


He has experience, can work within a budget and still outdo his contemporaries.

But yeah, you're probably right, no one's going to be interested in any of the above...

We'll see then. Fans just don't want to watch that brand of football anymore, which makes appointing Dyche a huge risk for any other top flight club. And most Palace fans think Hodgson is too negative, I don't think they'd be over the moon about Dyche going there.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

We'll see then. Fans just don't want to watch that brand of football anymore, which makes appointing Dyche a huge risk for any other top flight club. And most Palace fans think Hodgson is too negative, I don't think they'd be over the moon about Dyche going there.

You're making a massive assumption that Dyche will only ever play one style of football, yet he's proven that he won't already with us when we had Defour...

[NewClaret]

Absolute nonsense to want relegation over a takeover (assuming that party will have some money to invest), for many reasons:

- Covid may continue for a while yet. We’re better protected in the PL while Covid is ongoing.

- There’s no guarantee we’d come back up quickly after losing our best players. We’ve done it before but that was when we had a much lower wage bill to service.

- This club means so much to the town. The PL has global appeal and Burnley remaining in the Prem is vital to the local economy.

- Personal opinion, but I think over the next five years the PL will find ways to grow TV revenues and that the outlook for live football at the top level is very positive. If we’re able to stick around we should build a bigger financial gap between us and the clubs currently in the Championship.

Assuming one goes through, we badly need some midfield creativity and a RW, or as others have said, we may end up with both!

[DCWat]

You're making a massive assumption that Dyche will only ever play one style of football, yet he's proven that he won't already with us when we had Defour...

That’s bang on the money. Dyche plays football to suit what players he has. I think it’s fair to say that he still has a bit to do to prove what he can do with money and better players, particularly how he would keep an effective defence in a more attack / goal focussed team.

[Dark Cloud]

I wonder what the wider effect would be on the town? Premier League attracts big crowds from which many local businesses benefit although that’s countered by fewer matches....

It's several years ago now that I read an article saying how much having a PL team could mean to a local economy. Swansea was quoted back then as getting at least £20 million per season through its cafes, pubs hotels etc, etc PLUS all the businesses who relocate there or set up simply because they start looking at a place they'd never previously heard of. It can't be underestimated and the benefits must be even greater now and losing a place in the PL has a huge knock on effect. I've been to Bournemouth 3 times in the last 5 years and stayed for the week end (with a crowd of others) and that's purely been for the footy!

[tarkys_ears]

Relegation for what? To spend the next however long trying to get back where we were?

[Wellsy1882]

Please explain ?

As it says

[Goalposts]

We will eventually get relegated, the economics of the game dictate that, and injuries ,bad buys or manager changes will lean more heavily towards going down. I think you can also throw in the mix the unnatural atmosphere the games are played in currently.

I do think that a lot of people are falling out of love with the game though in terms of the way its managed, run and that finances are all consuming. The soul of the game feels tainted. Your club is still your club till the day you die.

[Wile E Coyote]

I want Dyche to sort himself out. He seems to me a big cause of our lack of morale.

I accept that injuries and our financial situation with Covid are factors but him sniping in the media after the restart and into this season was out of order. He's an employee and should toe the line. Disagreements should remain within the club. Instead he's used the media to either express his frustrations or worse, tried to manipulate things for either his professional or personal advantage - professional in that he was trying to get more funds to spend; personal in trying to pass the blame for what he sees as our possible or imminent failure.

If he can't shut up, or get his act together, he should be shown the door. No person is bigger then the club.

bit difficult for him to avoid the issue of finances when there's a daily media circus and a constant battery of questions basically asking "Sean....why is your team so **** at the moment " ?

[Grumps]

bit difficult for him to avoid the issue of finances when there's a daily media circus and a constant battery of questions basically asking "Sean....why are your team so **** at the moment " ?

His sniping was when we were doing ok

[Woonderbah]

Anyone who thinks getting relegated can be an opportunity to rebuild should sell their semi detached and move into a bed sit and explain all the positives to their partner and kids

[Grumps]

Anyone who thinks getting relegated can be an opportunity to rebuild should sell their semi detached and move into a bed sit and explain all the positives to their partner and kids

They might accept it if the year in a bedsit meant they could upgrade to a detached

[boatshed bill]

Is this really an either-or situation?
We could have takeover and relegation!

[Vegas Claret]

takeover 100%, it's not even a serious question

[Woonderbah]

They might accept it if the year in a bedsit meant they could upgrade to a detached

Ok not the best comparison

[dougcollins]

Going down would be a disaster.

[box_of_frogs]

Do you really think we were dreadful last season when we finished 10th?

Style of play was still dreadful, we just knew how to grind results out. Now they’ve seemed to have lost the will to battle.....

[LeuvenClaret]

Looking at the OP how quickly people forget, we were not making money in the Championship either.
Wages are the biggest curse of any football club, no matter the league.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Looking at the OP how quickly people forget, we were not making money in the Championship either.
Wages are the biggest curse of any football club, no matter the league.

The OP doesn't generally care about the financial side of football.

[Pstotto]

No takeover no relegation, simples.

[Jakubclaret]

Looking at the OP how quickly people forget, we were not making money in the Championship either.
Wages are the biggest curse of any football club, no matter the league.

It doesn't have to be that way though, wages should be capped without going over a certain amount, that's probably straying into a different debate, I personally think this needs looking into & enforcing across the league's with all the governing bodies onboard.