YOUR team vs Brighton
YOUR team vs Brighton
Time for a shakeup of both players and tactics!
Let's keep the ball on the ground and play some FOOTBALL
Pope
Bardsley Tarkowski Dunne Taylor
JBG/Brady Westwood Brownhill McNeil
Vydra Rodriguez
Let's keep the ball on the ground and play some FOOTBALL
Pope
Bardsley Tarkowski Dunne Taylor
JBG/Brady Westwood Brownhill McNeil
Vydra Rodriguez
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
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Bardsley Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Wood Rodriguez
Bardsley Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Wood Rodriguez
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
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Bards Tarks long Taylor
JBG/Brady Westwood brownhill mcniel
Wood jay
Bards Tarks long Taylor
JBG/Brady Westwood brownhill mcniel
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Not sure why anyone would push for a Vydra start to be honest but I'd definitely be looking at Jay starting if he's fully fit.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
433 with Pope, Westwood and Barnes getting benched as all of them are looking well below usual standards
BPF
Lowton Tarks Dunne Taylor
Brownhill Stephens Pieters
Jay-Rod Wood Mcneill
If Pieters isnt fit them drop McNeil into midfield and play Vydra on the right and Jay on the left
BPF
Lowton Tarks Dunne Taylor
Brownhill Stephens Pieters
Jay-Rod Wood Mcneill
If Pieters isnt fit them drop McNeil into midfield and play Vydra on the right and Jay on the left
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Because Wood and Barnes have been awful, their partnership produces long ball crap.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:30 amNot sure why anyone would push for a Vydra start to be honest but I'd definitely be looking at Jay starting if he's fully fit.
At the back end of last season we played good stuff with Jay Rod and Vydra and then Wood came back in, performances dropped but Wood scored so it wasn't an issue as such.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
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Beardsley Tarks mee taylor
JBG brownhill Westwood McNeil
Wood JRod
Long for mee if not fit
D A. Don’t know how you can include Stephens in a midfield 3 considering his performance against Chelsea
Beardsley Tarks mee taylor
JBG brownhill Westwood McNeil
Wood JRod
Long for mee if not fit
D A. Don’t know how you can include Stephens in a midfield 3 considering his performance against Chelsea
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
I think it's time for Mike Garlick to pick the team and see if he can do any better.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Vydra is a quality player but IMO is currently best used as an impact sub. It has to be Wood and Jay. Wood is the obvious starter as he's our best forward.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:30 amNot sure why anyone would push for a Vydra start to be honest but I'd definitely be looking at Jay starting if he's fully fit.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Dont think he has the legs to play in a 4-4-2 but with a couple of midfielders either side of him and a couple of players ahead of him with good movement we might see a different Stephens.
Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
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Lowts Tarks Mee/Long Taylor
McNeil Brownhill Westwood Jay
Wood Barnes
Far from ideal but I cannot remember seeing a Burnley player touch the ball less than Stephens did last Saturday. In every game he has played he seems way off the pace and I would only use him in front of the back four if both Westwood and Cork were missing.
I also think Vydra deserves at least 45 minutes if Barnes or Wood have another poor half. He cannot impact a game in 5 or 10 minutes at the end of a game. He’s showed more than enough in the last 6 or 9 months to prove he can offer us something different and change a game. Even if Vydra started instead of Barnes I don’t think many Burnley fans would have a big issue with this or could argue it was harsh on Barnes. If Jay is not in the team already then he probably deserves the nod in front of Vydra (and Barnes).
We are woefully short of options though
Lowts Tarks Mee/Long Taylor
McNeil Brownhill Westwood Jay
Wood Barnes
Far from ideal but I cannot remember seeing a Burnley player touch the ball less than Stephens did last Saturday. In every game he has played he seems way off the pace and I would only use him in front of the back four if both Westwood and Cork were missing.
I also think Vydra deserves at least 45 minutes if Barnes or Wood have another poor half. He cannot impact a game in 5 or 10 minutes at the end of a game. He’s showed more than enough in the last 6 or 9 months to prove he can offer us something different and change a game. Even if Vydra started instead of Barnes I don’t think many Burnley fans would have a big issue with this or could argue it was harsh on Barnes. If Jay is not in the team already then he probably deserves the nod in front of Vydra (and Barnes).
We are woefully short of options though
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
All I can say is you see more in Vydra than I do - he's excellent coming on as a sub, stretching play, but not a starter for me, not by any means and to leave Wood out for him I think is incredble.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:40 amBecause Wood and Barnes have been awful, their partnership produces long ball crap.
At the back end of last season we played good stuff with Jay Rod and Vydra and then Wood came back in, performances dropped but Wood scored so it wasn't an issue as such.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
I'm glad you aren't the manager. McNeil has to start on the left with Jay upfront. McNeil should never start on the right.TVC15 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 pmPope
Lowts Tarks Mee/Long Taylor
McNeil Brownhill Westwood Jay
Wood Barnes
Far from ideal but I cannot remember seeing a Burnley player touch the ball less than Stephens did last Saturday. In every game he has played he seems way off the pace and I would only use him in front of the back four if both Westwood and Cork were missing.
I also think Vydra deserves at least 45 minutes if Barnes or Wood have another poor half. He cannot impact a game in 5 or 10 minutes at the end of a game. He’s showed more than enough in the last 6 or 9 months to prove he can offer us something different and change a game. Even if Vydra started instead of Barnes I don’t think many Burnley fans would have a big issue with this or could argue it was harsh on Barnes. If Jay is not in the team already then he probably deserves the nod in front of Vydra (and Barnes).
We are woefully short of options though
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
'We are woefully short of options though'
...we certainly are..
...we certainly are..
Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
I didn’t mean to put him on the right. Agree he defo needs to start on left.FactualFrank wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:09 pmI'm glad you aren't the manager. McNeil has to start on the left with Jay upfront. McNeil should never start on the right.
But cheers for pointing it out and not over reacting !
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I wouldn't include Stephens in ANY midfield.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Pope
Bardsley
Tarks
Mee
Taylor
JBG first half until he goes off injured
Brady minutes 46 to 75 until he goes off injured then AN Other up to minute 90
Westwood
Browhill
McNeill
Jay Rod
Wood
We are hardly what you wouid call spoilt for choice
Bardsley
Tarks
Mee
Taylor
JBG first half until he goes off injured
Brady minutes 46 to 75 until he goes off injured then AN Other up to minute 90
Westwood
Browhill
McNeill
Jay Rod
Wood
We are hardly what you wouid call spoilt for choice
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Richardson made the bench against Chelsea.
If at any part of the game we went 3 up front he could hopefully be an option from the bench. I’ve seen him a few times and whilst I get the obvious limitations with his age, size, experience etc he definitely has a great touch and goal scorer instincts.
If at any part of the game we went 3 up front he could hopefully be an option from the bench. I’ve seen him a few times and whilst I get the obvious limitations with his age, size, experience etc he definitely has a great touch and goal scorer instincts.
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Age size and experience never stood in the way of a player who was good enough. Michael Owen for example.TVC15 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:23 pmRichardson made the bench against Chelsea.
If at any part of the game we went 3 up front he could hopefully be an option from the bench. I’ve seen him a few times and whilst I get the obvious limitations with his age, size, experience etc he definitely has a great touch and goal scorer instincts.
And before anyone jumps in, i have no idea whether Richardson is good enough, nor comparing him with Michael Owen. Just suggesting that the old adage that if you are good enough you are old enough.
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Agreed - it’s just difficult to tell as fans when you have seen him play only a few games at such a massively different level of football. But SD and the staff must seen him every day in trainingHerts Clarets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:28 pmAge size and experience never stood in the way of a player who was good enough. Michael Owen for example.
And before anyone jumps in, i have no idea whether Richardson is good enough, nor comparing him with Michael Owen. Just suggesting that the old adage that if you are good enough you are old enough.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
He's not a Dyche type of player and he certainly doesn't get the best out of him with his systems, but when him and Jay Rod are on people pass to feet and look for the return ball. It breeds confidence in the side and we play far better.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 pmAll I can say is you see more in Vydra than I do - he's excellent coming on as a sub, stretching play, but not a starter for me, not by any means and to leave Wood out for him I think is incredble.
Wood scores more goals so would be the better impact sub on the 60 minute mark, when if still level we start to try to win games more.
All 4 strikers have their strengths and there's not much in it between any of them on all round game to be honest. But Wood and Barnes are way out of form at the minute.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
We (this board) have had these discussions before and what happens is Wood scores and people change their mind in an instant.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:42 pmHe's not a Dyche type of player and he certainly doesn't get the best out of him with his systems, but when him and Jay Rod are on people pass to feet and look for the return ball. It breeds confidence in the side and we play far better.
Wood scores more goals so would be the better impact sub on the 60 minute mark, when if still level we start to try to win games more.
All 4 strikers have their strengths and there's not much in it between any of them on all round game to be honest. But Wood and Barnes are way out of form at the minute.
Wood is our best striker. It's who starts alongside him that's the question. You need a target man (Wood) partnering Jay or Vydra. We've kept the ball on the ground with Jay and Wood. It's when Barnes comes in that we seem to do more of a direct play.
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I agree, when Wood scores it's fine and he scores enough every year for a club like ours.FactualFrank wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:45 pmWe (this board) have had these discussions before and what happens is Wood scores and people change their mind in an instant.
Wood is our best striker. It's who starts alongside him that's the question. You need a target man (Wood) partnering Jay or Vydra. We've kept the ball on the ground with Jay and Wood. It's when Barnes comes in that we seem to do more of a direct play.
But when he doesn't score he's one of the worst players in the premier league. Almost redundant.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Think it's fair to say not one of our players have covered themselves in glory thus far. You could make a case of dropping anyone of them, as they are so far off the pace. These next two games will go along way to defining our season. Given the state of our situation and I hope the players aren't given any time off during the international break.
Unfortunately the team more or less picks itself at present, with the exception of Jay Rod. I can't see too may alternatives unless fingers crossed our skipper is ready for a long awaited return. Here's hoping.
Unfortunately the team more or less picks itself at present, with the exception of Jay Rod. I can't see too may alternatives unless fingers crossed our skipper is ready for a long awaited return. Here's hoping.
Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Pope
Bards Tarks Mee(if fit) Taylor
JBG(if fit) Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Jay Wood
Bards Tarks Mee(if fit) Taylor
JBG(if fit) Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Jay Wood
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Pope
Lowton Tarks Long Taylor
McNeil Brownhill Westwood Brady
Jay
Wood
Lowton Tarks Long Taylor
McNeil Brownhill Westwood Brady
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Vydra is another of these players who gets better and better the less games he playsQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:42 pmHe's not a Dyche type of player and he certainly doesn't get the best out of him with his systems, but when him and Jay Rod are on people pass to feet and look for the return ball. It breeds confidence in the side and we play far better.
Wood scores more goals so would be the better impact sub on the 60 minute mark, when if still level we start to try to win games more.
All 4 strikers have their strengths and there's not much in it between any of them on all round game to be honest. But Wood and Barnes are way out of form at the minute.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
When it comes to selling Vydra we should get quicken to act as the broker, maybe not though as far as Wood is concerned
Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Is it part of the deal to buy Stephens that he is effectively “cup-tied” and can’t play or is it part of the deal that we have to play him against them
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Let's be honest, Vydra should of been sold 18 months ago when he wasn't part of Dyche's plans. He's going to walk away for nothing like Hendrick and Brady.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:38 pmWhen it comes to selling Vydra we should get quicken to act as the broker, maybe not though as far as Wood is concerned
Terrible business sense at the club.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
The way some people talk, we might as well have sold every player outside the first 11 and have nobody on the bench.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:02 pmLet's be honest, Vydra should of been sold 18 months ago when he wasn't part of Dyche's plans. He's going to walk away for nothing like Hendrick and Brady.
Terrible business sense at the club.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Pope
Bards Tarks Mee? Taylor
Brady Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Jay Wood
Stephens hasn't justified keeping a starting berth, and the Barnes/Wood pairing up top isn't working, so time for some changes, Brownhill has to play in the centre he's wasted on the right, and we're much weaker in CM when he's not in there, Jay has to come in he and Wood were our best 2 strikers last season, and they linked up really well as a duo, if we're going to climb out of trouble we'll need to find goals, and that dup is likely to be more effective than lumping it to the 2 big man.
Bards Tarks Mee? Taylor
Brady Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Jay Wood
Stephens hasn't justified keeping a starting berth, and the Barnes/Wood pairing up top isn't working, so time for some changes, Brownhill has to play in the centre he's wasted on the right, and we're much weaker in CM when he's not in there, Jay has to come in he and Wood were our best 2 strikers last season, and they linked up really well as a duo, if we're going to climb out of trouble we'll need to find goals, and that dup is likely to be more effective than lumping it to the 2 big man.
Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
4 4 2 diamond
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Lowton Tarky Mee taylor
Stephens
Brownhill Westwood
Mcneil
JRod Vydra
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Lowton Tarky Mee taylor
Stephens
Brownhill Westwood
Mcneil
JRod Vydra
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Pope
Bards Tarks Mee Taylor
Brady Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Jay Wood
Bards Tarks Mee Taylor
Brady Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Jay Wood
Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Chris Boden saying JBG back in contention
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Said this before, he can score goals but he’s not a great football player.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:50 pmI agree, when Wood scores it's fine and he scores enough every year for a club like ours.
But when he doesn't score he's one of the worst players in the premier league. Almost redundant.
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Don’t think anyone can deny his goal scoring ability.
But his touch, hold up play and passing is incredibly poor for this level. This why we don’t play to feet a lot of the time, because it is not a strength of our main focal point
But his touch, hold up play and passing is incredibly poor for this level. This why we don’t play to feet a lot of the time, because it is not a strength of our main focal point
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Regarding Wood, he has to start due to his goals. It's surely an automatic place for him. He can do bugger all for 6 games and then score 3 goals in his next 3 games. And I don't think you can leave out Jay when he's fit, so I'm struggling to see why not everybody has those 2 in their lineup.
And while I rate Vydra, he seems to do better for us as an impact sub. Come on with 20-30 minutes to go to change the game.
All about opinions I guess.
And while I rate Vydra, he seems to do better for us as an impact sub. Come on with 20-30 minutes to go to change the game.
All about opinions I guess.
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I have to say that made me giggleHerts Clarets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:21 pmPope
Bardsley
Tarks
Mee
Taylor
JBG first half until he goes off injured
Brady minutes 46 to 75 until he goes off injured then AN Other up to minute 90
Westwood
Browhill
McNeill
Jay Rod
Wood
We are hardly what you wouid call spoilt for choice
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee / Long Taylor
JBG Westwood Brownhill McNeil
Jay Wood
BPF Bards, Brady, Stephens, Barnes, Vydra Long / Dunne
Starting to look a bit better.
Lowton Tarks Mee / Long Taylor
JBG Westwood Brownhill McNeil
Jay Wood
BPF Bards, Brady, Stephens, Barnes, Vydra Long / Dunne
Starting to look a bit better.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Pope
Bardsley Tarks Mee (Long) Taylor
JBG (Brady) Westwood Brownhill Mcneil
Jay Wood
Use Subs, as soon as the hour mark, especially Vydra Barnes & Brady
Don't flog players, particularily the front 6, especially injury prone ones, JBG, and just back from injury, Barnes.
Give mcneil a freeer roll, Brownhill has the legs & discipline to cover back
Bardsley Tarks Mee (Long) Taylor
JBG (Brady) Westwood Brownhill Mcneil
Jay Wood
Use Subs, as soon as the hour mark, especially Vydra Barnes & Brady
Don't flog players, particularily the front 6, especially injury prone ones, JBG, and just back from injury, Barnes.
Give mcneil a freeer roll, Brownhill has the legs & discipline to cover back
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
That's why you pair him with Jay, who shows for the ball, links up well and talks to his forward partnerNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:51 pmDon’t think anyone can deny his goal scoring ability.
But his touch, hold up play and passing is incredibly poor for this level. This why we don’t play to feet a lot of the time, because it is not a strength of our main focal point
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Pope, (by a whisker over BPF)
Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee (or Dunne if Mee isn't ready), Taylor,
Brownhill, Westwood, Benson, McNeil,
Rodriguez, Wood
Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee (or Dunne if Mee isn't ready), Taylor,
Brownhill, Westwood, Benson, McNeil,
Rodriguez, Wood
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Assuming Ben is one game away from fitness as is JBG, then
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Bardsley Long Tarks Taylor
Brady Weswood Brownhill McNeil
Wood Rodriguez
If Ben and JBG are fit then them instead of Long and Brady
Pope
Bardsley Long Tarks Taylor
Brady Weswood Brownhill McNeil
Wood Rodriguez
If Ben and JBG are fit then them instead of Long and Brady
Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Pope
Bardsley
Tarkowski
Mee
Taylor
JBG
Westwood
Brownhill
McNeil
Wood
Rodriguez
We need Mee back for this game.
Bardsley
Tarkowski
Mee
Taylor
JBG
Westwood
Brownhill
McNeil
Wood
Rodriguez
We need Mee back for this game.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
We need goals if we're going to get out of trouble, and Jay and Woody are in my view our most natural finishers, and also our best partnership based on last season's showings, so both have to start for me, Barnes & Vydra are useful options from the bench if we want to change things up, but neither looks like carrying a goal threat on their present form.FactualFrank wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:57 pmRegarding Wood, he has to start due to his goals. It's surely an automatic place for him. He can do bugger all for 6 games and then score 3 goals in his next 3 games. And I don't think you can leave out Jay when he's fit, so I'm struggling to see why not everybody has those 2 in their lineup.
And while I rate Vydra, he seems to do better for us as an impact sub. Come on with 20-30 minutes to go to change the game.
All about opinions I guess.
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Pope
Bardsley
Tarkowski
Mee
Taylor
Brady/JBG
Westwood
Brownhill
McNeil
Rodriguez
Wood
Bardsley
Tarkowski
Mee
Taylor
Brady/JBG
Westwood
Brownhill
McNeil
Rodriguez
Wood
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Re: YOUR team vs Brighton
Tough one, reluctant to drop Barnes as he needs games to come into form but we need to change things. If Mee is fit, which I hope to god he is, I’d go;
Pope
Bardsley Tarks Mee Taylor
Brady Westwood Brownhill McNeill
Wood Rodriguez
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Bardsley Tarks Mee Taylor
Brady Westwood Brownhill McNeill
Wood Rodriguez