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Wow sky did not hold back about the game !!!!!

Post by s6t9a2f3f » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:33 pm

BRIGHTON 0-0 BURNLEY

FT: This was a game that could put you off football for life. Two teams low on confidence who looked afraid to make any risks to win the game. Brighton should have had this wrapped up in the first half but Welbeck had an off day in front of goal. Burnley had one shot on target and offered nothing going forward but were good value for their clean sheet.

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Post by tiger76 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:37 pm

Can't really argue with that, 0-0 was about right, neither team did enough to win, but neither team deserved to lose.

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Post by NewClaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:38 pm

Sadly, it’s true.

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Post by Herts Clarets » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:39 pm

Which was the shot on target?

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Post by Rileybobs » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:41 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:37 pm
Can't really argue with that, 0-0 was about right, neither team did enough to win, but neither team deserved to lose.
Not sure I’d agree that we didn’t deserve to lose. Conceding would have been harsh on our back 5 who put a good shift in, but as a team to concede as many chances as we did without creating a single sniff (other than a misplaced cross) at the other end, I’d say we were very fortunate to get a point.

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Post by conyoviejo » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:41 pm

A points a point.

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Post by Rileybobs » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:41 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:39 pm
Which was the shot on target?
I seem to recall a very weak header towards their keeper at some point in the second half.

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:42 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:39 pm
Which was the shot on target?
One of Pope's clearances probably.
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Post by clansman » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:43 pm

Two very poor teams on that showing but we know both can be better. Unfortunately the fear factor won out tonight. I love what Sean has done for us but sometimes I yearn for a brave attacking approach to football.

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Post by Murger » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:43 pm

Can't argue with it. We are absolutely dire to watch and easily the worst team in the league.
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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:44 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:41 pm
I seem to recall a very weak header towards their keeper at some point in the second half.
Aye, it was Wood.

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Post by Spiral » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:45 pm

We're about as unwatchable as we've been since the run from Jan-May when Dyche first came in. Can't believe people actually pay to watch this on PPV. Lunatics.
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Post by tiger76 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:46 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:41 pm
Not sure I’d agree that we didn’t deserve to lose. Conceding would have been harsh on our back 5 who put a good shift in, but as a team to concede as many chances as we did without creating a single sniff (other than a misplaced cross) at the other end, I’d say we were very fortunate to get a point.
We got a point due to Brighton's profligate finishing, and our defence and keeper digging in and making sure we didn't concede, the back 5 can be proud of their display, but the rest were dire, and I worry how we're going to win games when we can't score.

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Post by Wembley09 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:47 pm

We sure are the worst team in this League right now, the position of 20th going into this game was right.

Can't really blame Dyche, he doesn't have much to play with. If we did try going for games instead of being deeply organised, we probably wouldn't have 2 points this season. Don't spend any money and this is what you get, losing Hendrick and not replacing him is going to hurt.

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Post by Rileybobs » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:48 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:46 pm
We got a point due to Brighton's profligate finishing, and our defence and keeper digging in and making sure we didn't concede, the back 5 can be proud of their display, but the rest were dire, and I worry how we're going to win games when we can't score.
Exactly. That's my point, the whole team didn't contribute to that clean sheet. The attacking players failed to take any pressure off our defence. It's a worry for sure. I think we need a bit of a shake up next week to get rid of the fear factor.

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Post by Bigvince » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:59 pm

They were right about wellbeck having an off day, unfortunately for Brighton most of his days are OFF DAYS

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Post by tim_noone » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:00 pm

Murger wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:43 pm
Can't argue with it. We are absolutely dire to watch and easily the worst team in the league.
The league table says Sheffield utd are....

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Post by nyclaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:00 pm

We were fantastic after lockdown last season with the same side, so what's changed?

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:05 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:00 pm
We were fantastic after lockdown last season with the same side, so what's changed?
Tactics to accommodate Wood and Barnes
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:06 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:00 pm
We were fantastic after lockdown last season with the same side, so what's changed?
The mood around the club for one. Dyches comments have shown clubs we aren’t one.

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Post by Spiral » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:07 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:00 pm
We were fantastic after lockdown last season with the same side, so what's changed?
Well apparently Hendrick and Lennon, who didn't even play when we were doing so well during project restart, went ahead and left without being replaced (so the story goes, because I must have just imagined Dale Stephens coming in), and somehow losing those players who weren't actually playing at all when we were playing well means we're now worse, or summat. Or more likely, Dyche's mardarse routine for the last six months has affected the squad and they have zero confidence because of it.

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Post by Spijed » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:09 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:46 pm
We got a point due to Brighton's profligate finishing, and our defence and keeper digging in and making sure we didn't concede, the back 5 can be proud of their display, but the rest were dire, and I worry how we're going to win games when we can't score.
Aside from the chance in the very first minute did Brighton actually have another genuine scoring opportunity all game, one where you felt they should have scored?

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Post by Stevie Morgan » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:11 pm

Welbeck

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Post by taio » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:11 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:09 pm
Aside from the chance in the very first minute did Brighton actually have another genuine scoring opportunity all game, one where you felt they should have scored?
Yes they did, not least Welbeck's.

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Post by Stevie Morgan » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:11 pm

Let's be honest. It's dire. We are incapable of playing a forward pass without it being 50 feet in the air.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:11 pm

Ben Mee is back
We are on the up
Another good point and another clean sheet for Nick
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Post by Spijed » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:11 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:46 pm
We got a point due to Brighton's profligate finishing, and our defence and keeper digging in and making sure we didn't concede, the back 5 can be proud of their display, but the rest were dire, and I worry how we're going to win games when we can't score.
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Post by MACCA » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:12 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:00 pm
We were fantastic after lockdown last season with the same side, so what's changed?
Failing to freshen up the squad.
Confidence is low.
Pressure is on ( it wasnt for the last few games last season as we were safe )
Ageing players.
Small squad.
Are the players and staff motivated enough to try and predirm another miracle?
The league has got stronger, where as we have got weaker.
We are not playing our best players.

Other than that, nothing much.
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Post by Stevie Morgan » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:13 pm

Dyche is definitley partly to blame, insisting on starting Barnes.
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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:13 pm

Big up our back4 for their defending but how embarrassing it was watching them try to launch it and Albion collecting it 30yds from our goalline.
We need to get back to hoofball, the halfway line at least.

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Post by claretfern » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:16 pm

Bored to Tears.

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Post by Woonderbah » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:17 pm

Difficult to see where a goal's gonna come from.
We're so scared to go forward with any real purpose.

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Post by Elizabeth » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:21 pm

Sky got it right.
Once confidence comes back things will look different. A big well done to the defence tonight, keeping things tight until we get it right going forward

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Post by Boss Hogg » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:29 pm

Sky are correct. We play better without Barnes.

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Post by warksclaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:39 pm

Three goals in seven games, and a minimum of scoring attempts in ten and a half hours. In the same situation every other manager in the PL would start with a different front two except Sean. I can see Wood/Barnes starting v Palace

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Post by Murger » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:04 am

tim_noone wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:00 pm
The league table says Sheffield utd are....
Points wise they are, but at least they try to win a game. Setting up not to lose will cost you more points in the end.

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Post by Les Lawrence » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:14 am

Not surprised,we are **** to watch.Same old every week,defend until other team scores,.ride our luck and hope for a set piece goal.Players all getting older and not being replaced.We are heading for relegation,and to be honest,that is where the board are taking us.Do they realise we are in the top division of English football which is the best in the world.

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Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:26 am

Wembley09 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:47 pm
Can't really blame Dyche, he doesn't have much to play with. If we did try going for games instead of being deeply organised, we probably wouldn't have 2 points this season.
What?? He’s got the same as we had finishing last season. Who would have thought Hendrick was so important to our team - what was his average rating last season? After his performance over the last 6 months Dyche needs to accept a large portion of any blame.

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Post by Les Lawrence » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:40 am

Does anyone actually enjoy watching the football we play?

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:00 am

Les Lawrence wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:40 am
Does anyone actually enjoy watching the football we play?
Cliff Thorburn.

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Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:15 am

tim_noone wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:00 am
Cliff Thorburn.
Bit harsh on him IMHO.

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Post by ClaretMov » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:47 am

Please please please play Rodriguez and Vydra up front

Or at least Vydra and Wood with Jay Rod on the right wing, we are f...ing boring to watch
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Post by Spijed » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:51 am

For all the criticism we rightly receive for the game remember that Brighton weren't much better, and they had little to offer. They didn't seem too bothered about a win either.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:55 am

Spijed wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:51 am
For all the criticism we rightly receive for the game remember that Brighton weren't much better, and they had little to offer. They didn't seem too bothered about a win either.
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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:57 am

Spijed wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:51 am
For all the criticism we rightly receive for the game remember that Brighton weren't much better, and they had little to offer. They didn't seem too bothered about a win either.
Were you watching the same game?

Desperate defending and great goalkeeping got us a point.

They had all the ball and all the chances.

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Post by aggi » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:57 am

Surely this is Burnley just doing their bit in protesting against ppv. Two ppv games, two dull 0-0s.

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Post by Erasmus » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:58 am

I think Sean Dyche is going about things in the right way. It is accepted wisdom that when you are on a very poor run, as we are, the first thing you do is make the defence solid. When that is established, you start to focus more on the attack side in order to win games. We are now at that first stage and in that sense, last night's performance can be viewed as a successful step in the right direction.
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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:02 am

I don't think it would be a surprise if a poll were taken of all Prem club supporters and it showed us to be the team that people least liked to watch
We are the Stoke City of years ago and Dyche is certainly Head Boy of the Pulis school

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:10 am

Late November and turn of the year last season we were awful.

Dyche insisted on playing a semi fit Barnes and we were terrible.

Eventually, we have to change it because Barnes can no longer walk let alone run and we go on a fantastic run and finish 10th with Jay, Wood and Vydra all in the goals.

As soon as Barnes is back semi fit, he’s straight back in, the goals dry up, our performances turn to shite and we drop like a stone again.

I just can’t understand the obsession with picking Barnes. The evidence to suggest we are better without him is fairly overwhelming.
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Post by Jenny55 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:11 am

We as a family said we wouldn’t watch the PPV games. However, last night we didn’t really want another hour or so of depressing news channels so decided to view. That was two hours of our lives we won’t get back. Only real plus points were the defence with Ben back and putting in a solid display and Nick had a good game in goal with two outstanding saves/blocks.
It was clear from the outset that the front two weren’t going to trouble Brighton and Dyche should have made changes earlier. We are pedestrian in the middle of the pitch, however if Jay and Vydra are playing up front together we have more options hitting these two with balls on the break. Yes we haven’t invested in the team this season apart from a poor looking Dale Stephens, however Dyche needs to play his limited hand of cards better. It is going to be a long hard crowd absent season.

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