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Saints v Newcastle

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:33 pm

Che Adams scores again, starting to look like a bargain at 15 million. Southampton's biggest problem this season might turn out to be keeping hold of their manager.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:34 pm

Another one we missed out on apparently

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Bosscat » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:40 pm

I got pelters for suggesting he (Che Adams) was a good un 🙄

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by MACCA » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:42 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:34 pm
Another one we missed out on apparently
Not really, they wanted 15m, we offered 10, or was it 12m?

You say missed out, we often look busy with no actual real effort.

I could put a bid in to buy messi for my 5 aside team, there's teams that actually play seriously and us that p1ss f4nny about pretending we want to be part of it.

I'm amazed fans still fall for Mike's smoke and mirrors games window after window.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Dyched » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:43 pm

MACCA wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:42 pm
Not really, they wanted 15m, we offered 10, or was it 12m?

You say missed out, we often look busy with no actual real effort.

I could put a bid in to buy messi for my 5 aside team, there's teams that actually play seriously and us that p1ss f4nny about pretending we want to be part of it.

I'm amazed fans still fall for Mike's smoke and mirrors games window after window.
Another who expects the club to spend £15m when fans won’t spend £15 on PPV :lol:

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by thelaughingclaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:43 pm

Go top with a win Southampton. £15 million may be a bargain in todays world but it is around 15 times what we could ever afford. Living in 1997.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Aclaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:44 pm

He seems to have bided his time at Southampton and is now looking good.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:46 pm

MACCA wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:42 pm
Not really, they wanted 15m, we offered 10, or was it 12m?

You say missed out, we often look busy with no actual real effort.

I could put a bid in to buy messi for my 5 aside team, there's teams that actually play seriously and us that p1ss f4nny about pretending we want to be part of it.

I'm amazed fans still fall for Mike's smoke and mirrors games window after window.
Hence the word " apparently " 😉

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by bfccrazy » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:46 pm

Dyched wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:43 pm
Another who expects the club to spend £15m when fans won’t spend £15 on PPV :lol:
The irony in you trying to point out that irony is brilliant,

A lot of people cba paying to watch the strike force that Brighton had nearly a decade ago playing against Brighton for us now...... and being surprised that we haven’t advanced.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by MACCA » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:46 pm

Dyched wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:43 pm
Another who expects the club to spend £15m when fans won’t spend £15 on PPV :lol:
Incorrect, but good try.

Fans paying £15 for PPV ( a situation that occurred after the window closed ) has no bearing on whetger a club spends the money it receives from sky tv on players.

Other than that, great point :roll:

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Dyched » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:51 pm

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MACCA wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:46 pm
Incorrect, but good try.

Fans paying £15 for PPV ( a situation that occurred after the window closed ) has no bearing on whetger a club spends the money it receives from sky tv on players.

Other than that, great point :roll:
It does though doesn’t it. Burnley FC didn’t think there was any value in our targets. The club has lost millions over the past 9 months and can no longer sign players for £15m on 3 year contracts without any idea what income they’ll be receiving through tv money and gates during that time.

People now don’t see the value spending £15 on PPV games since most have them would have been furloughed and can’t really justify paying it.

So yes, it is a great point.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:54 pm

Would of been a great asset doing nothing last season.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by tiger76 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:01 pm

Staggering turnabout in Southampton's form, a year ago they couldn't buy a win, now they can't stop winning, it's amazing what confidence does to a team.

Ralph Hasenhüttl has done a cracking job, and if they carry on like this he'll be a shoe in for the MOTY award surely.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:10 pm

Not watching this game but it seems that Adams has made the step up. He looked a little out of his depth last year, good for him.

Southampton have had decent players for years and have seriously underperformed. That squad should be capable of top-half finishes.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:10 pm

I may be wrong but I don't think he's spent a fortune either. Worked with what he had and made a few shrewd acquisitions.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:17 pm

Hendricks is absolutely terrible. Glad we got shut, wish he took his mate Brady with him!!

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:21 pm

Are Newcastle going to do what they did at Spurs?

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:35 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:54 pm
Would of been a great asset doing nothing last season.
The thing is:
Had we sold either Barnes or Vydra then Adams' fee would have been substantially reduced technically.
also, that's all Vydra did for most of the season. 2 strikers will always be sat on the bench.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by tiger76 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:37 pm

How is that not a penalty for the foul on Walcott, a big six team would have been awarded that I'm sure.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Shappie » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:40 pm

Blatant

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by tiger76 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:41 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:17 pm
Hendricks is absolutely terrible. Glad we got shut, wish he took his mate Brady with him!!
Baffled me why we triggered Brady's extension, he offers little when he's fit, and that's not often. Getting rid of Hendrick wasn't a problem in itself, the problem wasn't replacing him, and that is now becoming more apparent by the week.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by tiger76 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:43 pm

2-0 the Saints are heading to the summit almost a year to the day they were rooted to the foot of the table, I've seen this story somewhere before.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Zlatan » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:44 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:41 pm
Baffled me why we triggered Brady's extension, he offers little when he's fit, and that's not often. Getting rid of Hendrick wasn't a problem in itself, the problem wasn't replacing him, and that is now becoming more apparent by the week.
One of our better players today

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:49 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:44 pm
One of our better players today
I'm not sure what that really says about us.
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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by tiger76 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:16 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:44 pm
One of our better players today
He did Ok today, but he has one good game in what every 5/6 games, and that's when he's not on the treatment table, we can't afford to carry passengers if we're going to survive, and right now he's a passenger.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:29 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:35 pm
The thing is:
Had we sold either Barnes or Vydra then Adams' fee would have been substantially reduced technically.
also, that's all Vydra did for most of the season. 2 strikers will always be sat on the bench.
I was referring to his prolific record last season

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:49 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:54 pm
Would of been a great asset doing nothing last season.
Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:29 pm
I was referring to his prolific record last season
But thats what a good progressive recruitment policy is about. Bring in players with potential and then grow them in to the first team and into better and more valuable assets.

Its one of the things we used to do well with people like Ward taking 18 months to make an impact, Tarks coming in as backup, Keane growing into a first team role, Taylor as understudy for Ward and Pope as one for the future to come in after Heaton

For whatever reason we have become in a position where too often we have to try and get a cheap player, who is a pretty safe bet and can have an instant impact which leaves us signing aging experienced solid pros like Bardsley, Pieters, Crouch, Walters, Lennon and Stephens

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Dy1geo » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:02 pm

Hendrick is trending on Twitter and it’s not positive

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:04 pm

I watched quite a lot of the Saints' game with a couple of Geordies. They were giving Hendrick some real stick.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:10 pm

Hendrick training from NUFC TV

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by Stayingup » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:33 am

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:16 pm
He did Ok today, but he has one good game in what every 5/6 games, and that's when he's not on the treatment table, we can't afford to carry passengers if we're going to survive, and right now he's a passenger.
I suppose JBG doesn't count then?

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by tiger76 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:00 am

Stayingup wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:33 am
I suppose JBG doesn't count then?
He needs to go as well when his contracts up. Is anybody really surprised that just a handful of games into a new season, both Brady & JBG have missed games already, we can't rely on either contributing in a meaningful manner, and it's time to get rid in the summer, and get some new blood in, hopefully a couple of young hungry wingers who'll at least attempt to take a man on now and again, and try and create something. If we can't buy them then let's at least take a look at the development squads, that's where Dwight came from after all.

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Re: Saints v Newcastle

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:22 am

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:41 pm
Baffled me why we triggered Brady's extension, he offers little when he's fit, and that's not often. Getting rid of Hendrick wasn't a problem in itself, the problem wasn't replacing him, and that is now becoming more apparent by the week.
Probably because Garlick knew that would add another player to the list he needed to sign when he had no intention of signing any/very few.

Dwight is basically un-subbable because we have nobody even approaching his quality to bring on. We’re now in a position where we need a first team RW (assuming JBG can stay fit enough to cover) and a back-up LW.

You could argue we did replace Hendrick with Brownhill. Issue to me is that Hendrick was playing out of position because we didn’t have a RW and nobody has recognised/resolved that issue :(

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