Pope starts

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:27 pm

Nick Pope to start for England tomorrow night.

Might actually watch it now.

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:35 pm

I thought these games were being pulled???

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:32 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:27 pm
Nick Pope to start for England tomorrow night.

Might actually watch it now.

Hopefully another very assured performance like last time.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:32 pm

Must be a friendly?

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:03 pm

bf2k wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:35 pm
I thought these games were being pulled???

Only game in doubt is England v Iceland next week, Iceland play away in Denmark this weekend and with the travel ban from Denmark to the UK it means Iceland players who play in the game in Denmark won't be able to travel to the UK for the game with us. Seen plans online for Albania or Germany to host the game instead but if this is not possible England will forfeit the game presumably resulting in a 3-0 win for Iceland.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:05 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:32 pm
Must be a friendly?

Friendly at home to Republic of Ireland, before Nation League games against Belgium away this weekend and possibly Iceland at home or neutral venue next week.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:07 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:32 pm
Hopefully another very assured performance like last time.

I’m sure it will be frank.... shame it won’t matter one iota tho....

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:17 pm

I think it tells you that GS doesn’t have 100% faith in Pickford.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:37 pm

Is JBG on duty with Iceland, and if so will we lose him to travel restrictions for a couple of weeks... thanks to playing in Denmark ????

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:39 pm

Let’s hope it isn’t raining

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:24 pm

As pleased as I am that he’s starting, we all know that it’s only because it’s a friendly game.

If it was a competitive game it would be Pickford

UnderSeige · Post by **UnderSeige** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:40 pm

Looks like it's on ITV.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:09 pm

I'm happy he's starting because if he has a really good game I think it will put the manger in a difficult position, especially as Pickford is under pressure after being dropped by Everton.
So proud when a Burnley player plays for England. Being able to watch it on TV is just fantastic

rufus lumley · Post by **rufus lumley** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:12 pm

I will be watching BPF on Challange TV.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:15 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:37 pm
Is JBG on duty with Iceland, and if so will we lose him to travel restrictions for a couple of weeks... thanks to playing in Denmark ????

Denmark are playing Sweden currently and there are no British based players in either squad this evening, it would appear players based here are avoiding the Denmark games.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:22 pm

claretburns wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:15 pm
Denmark are playing Sweden currently and there are no British based players in either squad this evening, it would appear players based here are avoiding the Denmark games.

great news

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:30 pm

Sensible move by Southgate to gave Pope some game time in friendly's just in case Pickford picks up an injury ahead of the Euros

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:48 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:32 pm
Must be a friendly?

Only games he will EVER play in...sad but true

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:52 pm

Unless manager gets boot.

rufus lumley · Post by **rufus lumley** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:59 pm

We can only hope.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:59 pm

Pope should start every game hes a far better keeper than Pickford the stats back this up

kritichris · Post by **kritichris** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:11 pm

Southgate and Pope just been on a live video broadcast on Facebook. He spoke quite highly of our Nick but I suppose he had to with him being there.

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:20 pm

Pope starts

Still wont watch it

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:34 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:20 pm
Pope starts

Still wont watch it

Me Neither...

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:38 pm

I know watching England is usually a waste of time but for Nick I'm going to watch it

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:48 pm

What is it, some pointless friendly?

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:53 pm

It was pointless until Nick was chosen

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:56 pm

I think the point is he only picks him for friendlies.

Pickford will return when it matters.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:03 pm

He may do, but let's enjoy a Burnley goalkeeper playing in goal for England tomorrow.
This may not happen after Pope for a long time, maybe generations

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:10 pm

I get your point, and chances are I will watch, which I probably wouldn't have otherwise.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:13 pm

I really cant see Pope having too much to do really as Ireland have lost our best two strikers yesterday and we don't have much cover in that department .
Trust me when i say this is going to be a poor Ireland side tomorrow just hope we can defend .

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:21 pm

Is Cascarino injured?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:40 pm

The fact that Southgate is giving Pope regular games shows he’s very close to taking the number one jersey.

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:40 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:34 pm
Me Neither...

Id rather watch the jocks on channel 5
Thats got a point to it
And hope they lose

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:32 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:40 pm
Id rather watch the jocks on channel 5
Thats got a point to it
And hope they lose

I hope they lose to,but i wouldn't say it out loud living up here,i got friendly with a Celtic supporter up here,i sent him a txt a few weeks back saying come on you Gers,he hasnt spoken to me since.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:37 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:32 pm
I hope they lose to,but i wouldn't say it out loud living up here,i got friendly with a Celtic supporter up here,i sent him a txt a few weeks back saying come on you Gers,he hasnt spoken to me since.

He'd prob been looking for any old excuse to stop talking to you for ages

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:57 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:40 pm
Id rather watch the jocks on channel 5
Thats got a point to it
And hope they lose

I'm not sure you're supposed to refer to the Scots as jocks it's not seen as PC these days, however they aren't on channel 5 they are on pick, I do agree both the NI and Scotland games have a purpose to them, it does seem bizarre in such a congested calendar England are partaking in a meaningless friendly, great for Nick to get the nod, and this shows he's clearly the next in the pecking order if Pickford isn't available for any reason, and the experience can't do him any harm I guess, even though Wembley will be deserted tomorrow.

As for the Scotland game they seem confident, but knowing Scotland they'll find a way to blow it at the final hurdle.

If NI qualify tomorrow, it's possible that we'll have 2 international goalkeepers involved in next summer's Euro's. Not bad for a provincial club, and further testament to Billy Mercer's coaching skills.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:09 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:37 pm
He'd prob been looking for any old excuse to stop talking to you for ages

Aye your probably right,they hate us English b@stards!

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:22 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:39 pm
Let’s hope it isn’t raining

Oi..........Bournemouth 0 Burnley 1 it P!ssed it Down for 24 hours.

before during and after...

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:39 am

Just read the keeper assessment by Margetson, England keeper coach.

It is on the sky website page about our Nick playing. Link to it there.

It boiled down to:
Pickford - lots of little errors which make his saves have to be better than they need to be - the art of good keeping being to make every safe as simple as possible. Also poor decision making, causing goal errors.

Pope - perfect positioning. Keeps saves simple. Great presence and therefore able, with his other good stance/position attributes, make the impossible a great save.

Henderson - super athlete which covers for his errors. (Like Pickford at his age). Still learning.

So, if your keeper coach makes that assessment....how come the number chooses the lesser keeper???

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:52 am

Ian , very generous of you to devote so much of your time researching English goalkeepers , I had a minute spare yesterday and managed to cover a history of Scottish goalkeepers.

Only joking Ian and I want you to continue taking the lead on our match day threads , even though I know how upset you are at the interference .

claret59 · Post by **claret59** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:48 am

Elizabeth writes: Ian , very generous of you to devote so much of your time researching English goalkeepers , I had a minute spare yesterday and managed to cover a history of Scottish goalkeepers.

Did the research include Adam Blacklaw's appearances for Scotland?

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:42 am

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:57 pm
I'm not sure you're supposed to refer to the Scots as jocks it's not seen as PC these days, however they aren't on channel 5 they are on pick, I do agree both the NI and Scotland games have a purpose to them, it does seem bizarre in such a congested calendar England are partaking in a meaningless friendly, great for Nick to get the nod, and this shows he's clearly the next in the pecking order if Pickford isn't available for any reason, and the experience can't do him any harm I guess, even though Wembley will be deserted tomorrow.

As for the Scotland game they seem confident, but knowing Scotland they'll find a way to blow it at the final hurdle.

If NI qualify tomorrow, it's possible that we'll have 2 international goalkeepers involved in next summer's Euro's. Not bad for a provincial club, and further testament to Billy Mercer's coaching skills.

Sorry. The jocks are on sky one
1 line down from channel 5 on my guide

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:35 am

Great feature on Nick Pope by Henry Winter in today's Times

How non-League stints primed Nick Pope for battle

Nick Pope starts for England against Ireland at Wembley tonight but has never forgotten his roots, his time in non-League and the EFL, the chances he was given on loan far from the “glitz and glamour” of the Premier League.

It is why the Burnley goalkeeper, whose brother Josh still plays non-League, is keen to voice his concerns about the straitened times and stricken clubs down the pyramid, and hopes a solution can be found to bail them out.

Lengthy - rest at this link

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f9cd ... 40ca60324b

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kritichris · Post by **kritichris** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:25 am

Pope was also the people's choice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54845807

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:41 am

Elizabeth wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:52 am
Ian , very generous of you to devote so much of your time researching English goalkeepers , I had a minute spare yesterday and managed to cover a history of Scottish goalkeepers.

Only joking Ian and I want you to continue taking the lead on our match day threads , even though I know how upset you are at the interference .

I am Anglo Scot Elizabeth. I cheer England on too. Scotland need me more, that's all!

Very kind comment about match thread. Sadly, that ship has sailed, as the folk running this ship have decided to ban Madge and fun titles, for reasons unknown. They will probably start their own 'official' thread.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:47 am

kritichris wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:25 am
Pope was also the people's choice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54845807

Everton's Jordan Pickford failed to get your vote of confidence, being the least selected goalkeeper of the three in the squad. Burnley's Nick Pope was comfortably the most popular, appearing in 45% of teams.

Impressive support for Nick Pope.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:57 am

If anybody really is blindly idiotic enough to realise why Southgate starts Pickford ahead of Pope ,take a close look at Pope performance with his feet in Brighton game . It was donkey -esque and most u15 grass roots keepers would have kicked better . Personally I think he’s great for us and the obsession with keepers feet ridiculous , however it is what it is

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:09 am

Hi Ian, I suppose we both find it less than comfortable accepting how being natural and having fun is being removed by others in this day and age. Never mind you had your time and cheered everyone up on match days. You are doing the best thing in moving on.
Good to hear you have some good genes from both sides. Adam Blacklaw is my all time favourite goalkeeper and what a great character he was, even after his memorable professional playing career there are one or two classic tales from when he played on in local amateur football.
I found it relevant he was mentioned by another poster because if my memory serves me well he too should have had more Scottish caps but was denied them by a so called bigger team’s goalie. Bill Brown , playing for Spurs I think. There may even be one or two clips of Brown letting balls through his legs into the net playing for Scotland but hey let’s not dwell on that too much before the name Ray Clemence comes up

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:10 am

Paul Waine wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:35 am

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f9cd ... 40ca60324b

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"He’s got a great habit of keeping the ball out the net. That’s a bit old-fashioned in terms of what people want from goalkeepers. They want them to start attacks, juggle, do all sorts of things. But actually there’s something to be said for coming and collecting crosses, dominating your box and keeping the ball out of your net, and he does that.”

A bit old fashioned! That sums it up! Rather have a keeper who lets more in, because he kicks better! Might as well play a midfielder in goal!