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Elvis

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:03 pm

Costello or Presley ? Who's the best? Discuss. Costello for me.

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Re: Elvis

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:09 pm

I thought this was breaking news that he was alive.
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Re: Elvis

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:10 pm

Is he dead ?

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Re: Elvis

Post by Dyched » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:11 pm

Richard Hawley
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Re: Elvis

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:11 pm

R Whites Lemona a a a a ade

He's a secret lemonade drinker....

Elvis Costello's dad sang the song ....

https://youtu.be/xAFSrNPE25g

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Re: Elvis

Post by spadesclaret » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:11 pm

Oh, Alf, how could you!? There is only one Elvis - the King!
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Re: Elvis

Post by Joe14 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:12 pm

Just because they’ve got the same name doesn’t mean you can compare them.

It’s like saying- Little Mix or the Rolling Stones you decide?

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Re: Elvis

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:16 pm

spadesclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:11 pm
Oh, Alf, how could you!? There is only one Elvis - the King!
Haha Spades,but you have to admit Costello is brilliant. :D

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Re: Elvis

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Re: Elvis

Post by dsr » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm

Out of interest, who is the world's third most famous Elvis?

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Re: Elvis

Post by dibraidio » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm

Joe14 wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:12 pm
Just because they’ve got the same name doesn’t mean you can compare them.

It’s like saying- Little Mix or the Rolling Stones you decide?
I thought you were going to say Little Mix or Little Richard... you could have said Stone Roses or Rolling Stones too...

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Re: Elvis

Post by spadesclaret » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:20 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:16 pm
Haha Spades,but you have to admit Costello is brilliant. :D
No, I don't have to admit anything. However, I do like him a tiny bit :D
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Re: Elvis

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:22 pm

spadesclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:20 pm
No, I don't have to admit anything. However, I do like him a tiny bit :D
He does have his attractions :D
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Re: Elvis

Post by spadesclaret » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:24 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:22 pm
He does have his attractions :D
Wish I'd thought of that 8-)
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Re: Elvis

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:51 pm

Is he still working in the chip shop?

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Re: Elvis

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:54 pm

Has he joined Olivers Army 🤔

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Re: Elvis

Post by BenWickes » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:55 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:09 pm
I thought this was breaking news that he was alive.
Me too! I actually went to the BBC news site before reading on :lol:

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Re: Elvis

Post by BenWickes » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:57 pm

Joe14 wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:12 pm

It’s like saying- Little Mix or the Rolling Stones you decide?
If it was a choice of a naked romp party with the Stones or Little Mix. Sorry Mick. Take your boys home.
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Re: Elvis

Post by groove » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:07 pm

That reminds me of a tale. A record company executive is telling a producer of a supergroup he is assembling to get the Xmas number one. He tells him "we've got Keith on guitar".
"Keith Richards from the Stones ?"
"No, Keith Chegwin".
"We've got Phil on drums"
"Phil Collins from Genesis ?"
"No, Phil Tuffnell"
"We've got Noel on rythm guitar "
"Noel Gallagher from Oasis ?"
"No, Noel Edmonds "
"We've got Robbie on vocals "
"Robbie Williams from Take That?"
"Yes, that's right ".
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Re: Elvis

Post by Hipper » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:43 pm

dsr wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm
Out of interest, who is the world's third most famous Elvis?
According to this it's Elvis Mitchell, well known film critic and radio show host!

https://playback.fm/people/first-name/elvis

You'll note that Presley doesn't make the top 25!

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Re: Elvis

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:49 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:54 pm
Has he joined Olivers Army 🤔
Great song Bosscat with political undertones,but we had better not go down that road . 8-)
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Re: Elvis

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:50 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:03 pm
Costello or Presley ? Who's the best? Discuss. Costello for me.
Surely this is a joke.

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Re: Elvis

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:53 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:57 pm
If it was a choice of a naked romp party with the Stones or Little Mix. Sorry Mick. Take your boys home.
Little Mix are dreadful. I’d be tempted with The Rolling Stones. I’d asked Keith to put his fag out first though.

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Re: Elvis

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:53 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:50 pm
Surely this is a joke.
Just a light hearted topic instead of the usual doom and gloom stuff. ;)

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Re: Elvis

Post by HahaYeah » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:04 pm

Costello is a songwriter and Presley or should I say Elvis was a performer, so Worlds apart really,but that said it's like trying to compare the Wealdstone Raider to Muhammad Ali. :geek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi5jjUVMK9A
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Re: Elvis

Post by BenWickes » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:11 pm

In reference to the original question. Can't stand Elvis Presley but that's as much down to my Mother saturating us with his music as a kid. She loved him. Costello was actually a talented writer. Can't sing for toffee mind.

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Re: Elvis

Post by rufus lumley » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:24 pm

The one who didn't want to go to Chelsea.

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Re: Elvis

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:28 pm

Hipper wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:43 pm
According to this it's Elvis Mitchell, well known film critic and radio show host!
https://playback.fm/people/first-name/elvis
You'll note that Presley doesn't make the top 25!
I think you'll find that the list you refer to contains only those people named Elvis, who are currently alive .... :roll:

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Re: Elvis

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:32 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:28 pm
I think you'll find that the list you refer to contains only those people named Elvis, who are currently alive .... :roll:
Elvis Costello isn't called Elvis either its a stage name

Born Declan MacManus in London, Costello made the switch to the name we all know after signing his first recording contract. His new name was a two-part suggestion from his manager, borrowing ‘Elvis’ from Elvis Presley (probably a smart move for the time period) and his own father’s stage name of Costello. He had previously been playing early gigs as D.P. Costello as a nod to his dad.

Read More: 10 Things You Didn’t Know About Elvis Costello | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/10-thin ... m=referral

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Re: Elvis

Post by !aiboforceN » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:39 pm

Genuinely legendary Elvis:

Saint Elvis... nursed by a she-wolf, boarded a supernatural ship; returned from the faerie world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ailbe_of_Emly

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Re: Elvis

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:48 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:04 pm
Costello is a songwriter and Presley or should I say Elvis was a performer, so Worlds apart really,but that said it's like trying to compare the Wealdstone Raider to Muhammad Ali. :geek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi5jjUVMK9A
Sadly, that footage is taken just 8 weeks before Presley's death .... It's clear he should have been no-where near a stage at that point. It's rumoured that Colonel Parker was under pressure with his own gambling debts, are needed some money quickly, which is why he arranged for CBS to do a " Concert Special " in the June of 1977. As ever, Parker took 50% of Elvis's earnings ....

In terms of who's music you like better, it's clearly personal preference. In terms of effect on the music scene and his era, record sales, sell-out Concerts etc, there's only one choice and I think Elvis Costello himself would acknowledge that ...

As did some others, when I saw the thread, it fleetingly crossed my mind that Donald Trump had asked for the FBI files on Elvis Presley, and used his Presidential powers to de-classify them, revealing that Elvis had joined the " witness protection " programme in August 1977, and had spent the rest of his days living quietly near Kalamazoo, Michigan before dying of natural causes in 2013 !! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Elvis

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:54 pm

No contest whatsoever....Costello for me.

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Re: Elvis

Post by Vino blanco » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:55 pm

Elvis Presley....... 21 UK number one hits (record)
Mr Costello......... 0 number ones in the Uk.
This would point to a popular vote in favour of the real Elvis.


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Re: Elvis

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:57 pm

In my top ten of all time beautiful song
https://youtu.be/1hBWBVVFA4c
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Re: Elvis

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:04 pm

Best Elvis song ever ....

https://youtu.be/2Ox1Tore9nw

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Re: Elvis

Post by Dyched » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:05 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:55 pm
Elvis Presley....... 21 UK number one hits (record)
Mr Costello......... 0 number ones in the Uk.
This would point to a popular vote in favour of the real Elvis.


.
Spice Girls had 9
Bob Dylan 0

As Alex Turner once said “Awards aren’t a measure of how good someone truly is”. Or somert like that.
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Re: Elvis

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:06 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:04 pm
Best Elvis song ever ....

https://youtu.be/2Ox1Tore9nw
Also a great version ....

https://youtu.be/G_H5z_r1TMU

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Re: Elvis

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:57 pm
In my top ten of all time beautiful song
https://youtu.be/1hBWBVVFA4c
A huge Country hit for the legendary George Jones in 1970 .... I remember I bought the Elvis Costello Album, " Almost Blue ", ( on Blue Vinyl ), on which this featured. There was a warning label attached, " Caution: This album contains Country Music " !! ;)
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Re: Elvis

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:08 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 pm
A huge Country hit for the legendary George Jones in 1970 .... I remember I bought the Elvis Costello Album, " Almost Blue ", ( on Blue Vinyl ), on which this featured. There was a warning label attached, " Caution: This album contains Country Music " !! ;)
Almost blue is a fantastic album.

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Re: Elvis

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:13 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:08 pm
Almost blue is a fantastic album.
Includes the great Country music line .... " You changed your name from Brown to Jones, and mine from Brown to Blue " !! :lol:

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Re: Elvis

Post by bobinho » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:49 pm

As good as Costello is, and as much as i like him, he isn't even in the same ball park as Presley.

Seriously, this isn't even close.

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Re: Elvis

Post by yTib » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:06 pm

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Re: Elvis

Post by ClaretCliff » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:22 pm

dsr wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm
Out of interest, who is the world's third most famous Elvis?
I'm pretty sure there was a boxer called Elvis Parsley
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Re: Elvis

Post by ClaretCliff » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:22 pm

dsr wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm
Out of interest, who is the world's third most famous Elvis?
I'm pretty sure there was a boxer called Elvis Parsley

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Re: Elvis

Post by ClaretCliff » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:23 pm

Oops! Sorry to post that twice. I don't think he was good enough to warrant that!

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Re: Elvis

Post by Hipper » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:57 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:28 pm
I think you'll find that the list you refer to contains only those people named Elvis, who are currently alive .... :roll:
Are you saying Elvis is dead???

That site says 'they are considered the most important person in history born with the first name of Elvis'.

Actually I tried 'Winston':

https://playback.fm/people/first-name/winston

Winston Ponder????

Something's not right!

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Re: Elvis

Post by dougcollins » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:01 pm

bobinho wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:49 pm
As good as Costello is, and as much as i like him, he isn't even in the same ball park as Presley.

Seriously, this isn't even close.
As a songwriter, he's in a different universe to Presley.

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Re: Elvis

Post by bobinho » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:28 pm

That’ll be because Presley wasn’t a songwriter. Presley was a singer, a performer. Costello is neither. Yeah he sings, but as was pointed out earlier, not very well.

But yeah, Costello has written some great songs... that’s why I like him.

But just like everyone into football knows exactly who we mean when we talk about United, everyone who listens to music knows who is being talked about when someone other than Costellos mum says Elvis.

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Re: Elvis

Post by yTib » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:29 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:01 pm
As a songwriter, he's in a different universe to Presley.
true but in terms of presence, impact and influence elvis is surely in the top tier.

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Re: Elvis

Post by dougcollins » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:30 pm

So you're only allowed to compare them in specific areas in which Presley is outstanding?

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