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Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:03 pm
by conyoviejo
Costello or Presley ? Who's the best? Discuss. Costello for me.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:09 pm
by FactualFrank
I thought this was breaking news that he was alive.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:10 pm
by conyoviejo
Is he dead ?

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:11 pm
by Dyched
Richard Hawley

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:11 pm
by Bosscat
R Whites Lemona a a a a ade

He's a secret lemonade drinker....

Elvis Costello's dad sang the song ....

https://youtu.be/xAFSrNPE25g

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:11 pm
by spadesclaret
Oh, Alf, how could you!? There is only one Elvis - the King!

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:12 pm
by Joe14
Just because they’ve got the same name doesn’t mean you can compare them.

It’s like saying- Little Mix or the Rolling Stones you decide?

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:16 pm
by conyoviejo
spadesclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:11 pm
Oh, Alf, how could you!? There is only one Elvis - the King!
Haha Spades,but you have to admit Costello is brilliant. :D

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:18 pm
by ŽižkovClaret

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm
by dsr
Out of interest, who is the world's third most famous Elvis?

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm
by dibraidio
Joe14 wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:12 pm
Just because they’ve got the same name doesn’t mean you can compare them.

It’s like saying- Little Mix or the Rolling Stones you decide?
I thought you were going to say Little Mix or Little Richard... you could have said Stone Roses or Rolling Stones too...

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:20 pm
by spadesclaret
conyoviejo wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:16 pm
Haha Spades,but you have to admit Costello is brilliant. :D
No, I don't have to admit anything. However, I do like him a tiny bit :D

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:22 pm
by conyoviejo
spadesclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:20 pm
No, I don't have to admit anything. However, I do like him a tiny bit :D
He does have his attractions :D

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:24 pm
by spadesclaret
conyoviejo wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:22 pm
He does have his attractions :D
Wish I'd thought of that 8-)

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:51 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Is he still working in the chip shop?

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:54 pm
by Bosscat
Has he joined Olivers Army 🤔

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:55 pm
by BenWickes
FactualFrank wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:09 pm
I thought this was breaking news that he was alive.
Me too! I actually went to the BBC news site before reading on :lol:

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:57 pm
by BenWickes
Joe14 wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:12 pm

It’s like saying- Little Mix or the Rolling Stones you decide?
If it was a choice of a naked romp party with the Stones or Little Mix. Sorry Mick. Take your boys home.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:07 pm
by groove
That reminds me of a tale. A record company executive is telling a producer of a supergroup he is assembling to get the Xmas number one. He tells him "we've got Keith on guitar".
"Keith Richards from the Stones ?"
"No, Keith Chegwin".
"We've got Phil on drums"
"Phil Collins from Genesis ?"
"No, Phil Tuffnell"
"We've got Noel on rythm guitar "
"Noel Gallagher from Oasis ?"
"No, Noel Edmonds "
"We've got Robbie on vocals "
"Robbie Williams from Take That?"
"Yes, that's right ".

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:43 pm
by Hipper
dsr wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm
Out of interest, who is the world's third most famous Elvis?
According to this it's Elvis Mitchell, well known film critic and radio show host!

https://playback.fm/people/first-name/elvis

You'll note that Presley doesn't make the top 25!

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:49 pm
by conyoviejo
Bosscat wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:54 pm
Has he joined Olivers Army 🤔
Great song Bosscat with political undertones,but we had better not go down that road . 8-)

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:50 pm
by Boss Hogg
conyoviejo wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:03 pm
Costello or Presley ? Who's the best? Discuss. Costello for me.
Surely this is a joke.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:53 pm
by Boss Hogg
BenWickes wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:57 pm
If it was a choice of a naked romp party with the Stones or Little Mix. Sorry Mick. Take your boys home.
Little Mix are dreadful. I’d be tempted with The Rolling Stones. I’d asked Keith to put his fag out first though.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:53 pm
by conyoviejo
Boss Hogg wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:50 pm
Surely this is a joke.
Just a light hearted topic instead of the usual doom and gloom stuff. ;)

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:04 pm
by HahaYeah
Costello is a songwriter and Presley or should I say Elvis was a performer, so Worlds apart really,but that said it's like trying to compare the Wealdstone Raider to Muhammad Ali. :geek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi5jjUVMK9A

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:11 pm
by BenWickes
In reference to the original question. Can't stand Elvis Presley but that's as much down to my Mother saturating us with his music as a kid. She loved him. Costello was actually a talented writer. Can't sing for toffee mind.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:24 pm
by rufus lumley
The one who didn't want to go to Chelsea.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:28 pm
by Clarets4me
Hipper wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:43 pm
According to this it's Elvis Mitchell, well known film critic and radio show host!
https://playback.fm/people/first-name/elvis
You'll note that Presley doesn't make the top 25!
I think you'll find that the list you refer to contains only those people named Elvis, who are currently alive .... :roll:

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:32 pm
by Bosscat
Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:28 pm
I think you'll find that the list you refer to contains only those people named Elvis, who are currently alive .... :roll:
Elvis Costello isn't called Elvis either its a stage name

Born Declan MacManus in London, Costello made the switch to the name we all know after signing his first recording contract. His new name was a two-part suggestion from his manager, borrowing ‘Elvis’ from Elvis Presley (probably a smart move for the time period) and his own father’s stage name of Costello. He had previously been playing early gigs as D.P. Costello as a nod to his dad.

Read More: 10 Things You Didn’t Know About Elvis Costello | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/10-thin ... m=referral

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:39 pm
by !aiboforceN
Genuinely legendary Elvis:

Saint Elvis... nursed by a she-wolf, boarded a supernatural ship; returned from the faerie world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ailbe_of_Emly

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:48 pm
by Clarets4me
HahaYeah wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:04 pm
Costello is a songwriter and Presley or should I say Elvis was a performer, so Worlds apart really,but that said it's like trying to compare the Wealdstone Raider to Muhammad Ali. :geek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi5jjUVMK9A
Sadly, that footage is taken just 8 weeks before Presley's death .... It's clear he should have been no-where near a stage at that point. It's rumoured that Colonel Parker was under pressure with his own gambling debts, are needed some money quickly, which is why he arranged for CBS to do a " Concert Special " in the June of 1977. As ever, Parker took 50% of Elvis's earnings ....

In terms of who's music you like better, it's clearly personal preference. In terms of effect on the music scene and his era, record sales, sell-out Concerts etc, there's only one choice and I think Elvis Costello himself would acknowledge that ...

As did some others, when I saw the thread, it fleetingly crossed my mind that Donald Trump had asked for the FBI files on Elvis Presley, and used his Presidential powers to de-classify them, revealing that Elvis had joined the " witness protection " programme in August 1977, and had spent the rest of his days living quietly near Kalamazoo, Michigan before dying of natural causes in 2013 !! :lol: :lol:

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:54 pm
by Steve1956
No contest whatsoever....Costello for me.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:55 pm
by Vino blanco
Elvis Presley....... 21 UK number one hits (record)
Mr Costello......... 0 number ones in the Uk.
This would point to a popular vote in favour of the real Elvis.


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Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:57 pm
by Steve1956
In my top ten of all time beautiful song
https://youtu.be/1hBWBVVFA4c

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:04 pm
by Bosscat
Best Elvis song ever ....

https://youtu.be/2Ox1Tore9nw

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:05 pm
by Dyched
Vino blanco wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:55 pm
Elvis Presley....... 21 UK number one hits (record)
Mr Costello......... 0 number ones in the Uk.
This would point to a popular vote in favour of the real Elvis.


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Spice Girls had 9
Bob Dylan 0

As Alex Turner once said “Awards aren’t a measure of how good someone truly is”. Or somert like that.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:06 pm
by Bosscat
Bosscat wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:04 pm
Best Elvis song ever ....

https://youtu.be/2Ox1Tore9nw
Also a great version ....

https://youtu.be/G_H5z_r1TMU

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 pm
by Clarets4me
Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:57 pm
In my top ten of all time beautiful song
https://youtu.be/1hBWBVVFA4c
A huge Country hit for the legendary George Jones in 1970 .... I remember I bought the Elvis Costello Album, " Almost Blue ", ( on Blue Vinyl ), on which this featured. There was a warning label attached, " Caution: This album contains Country Music " !! ;)

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:08 pm
by Steve1956
Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 pm
A huge Country hit for the legendary George Jones in 1970 .... I remember I bought the Elvis Costello Album, " Almost Blue ", ( on Blue Vinyl ), on which this featured. There was a warning label attached, " Caution: This album contains Country Music " !! ;)
Almost blue is a fantastic album.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:13 pm
by Clarets4me
Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:08 pm
Almost blue is a fantastic album.
Includes the great Country music line .... " You changed your name from Brown to Jones, and mine from Brown to Blue " !! :lol:

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:49 pm
by bobinho
As good as Costello is, and as much as i like him, he isn't even in the same ball park as Presley.

Seriously, this isn't even close.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:06 pm
by yTib
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Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:22 pm
by ClaretCliff
dsr wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm
Out of interest, who is the world's third most famous Elvis?
I'm pretty sure there was a boxer called Elvis Parsley

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:22 pm
by ClaretCliff
dsr wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm
Out of interest, who is the world's third most famous Elvis?
I'm pretty sure there was a boxer called Elvis Parsley

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:23 pm
by ClaretCliff
Oops! Sorry to post that twice. I don't think he was good enough to warrant that!

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:57 pm
by Hipper
Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:28 pm
I think you'll find that the list you refer to contains only those people named Elvis, who are currently alive .... :roll:
Are you saying Elvis is dead???

That site says 'they are considered the most important person in history born with the first name of Elvis'.

Actually I tried 'Winston':

https://playback.fm/people/first-name/winston

Winston Ponder????

Something's not right!

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:01 pm
by dougcollins
bobinho wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:49 pm
As good as Costello is, and as much as i like him, he isn't even in the same ball park as Presley.

Seriously, this isn't even close.
As a songwriter, he's in a different universe to Presley.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:28 pm
by bobinho
That’ll be because Presley wasn’t a songwriter. Presley was a singer, a performer. Costello is neither. Yeah he sings, but as was pointed out earlier, not very well.

But yeah, Costello has written some great songs... that’s why I like him.

But just like everyone into football knows exactly who we mean when we talk about United, everyone who listens to music knows who is being talked about when someone other than Costellos mum says Elvis.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:29 pm
by yTib
dougcollins wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:01 pm
As a songwriter, he's in a different universe to Presley.
true but in terms of presence, impact and influence elvis is surely in the top tier.

Re: Elvis

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:30 pm
by dougcollins
So you're only allowed to compare them in specific areas in which Presley is outstanding?