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Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:10 am

According to Charlie Taylor we don’t have any. Haha that’s if you believe the video the club put out.

All jokes aside it made me think who do you think is Burnley’s most technical player?

I am going to go either JBG or McNeil

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by Zlatan » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:24 am

He actually said it was McNeil, I think you have been fooled by his joke with Pope

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:28 am

Zlatan wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:24 am
He actually said it was McNeil, I think you have been fooled by his joke with Pope
That’s probably why I mentioned “all jokes aside”

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by dibraidio » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:31 am

Zlatan wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:24 am
He actually said it was McNeil, I think you have been fooled by his joke with Pope
They said Dwight would be upset if they didn't say him. I thought it was interesting that they said Vydra was the fastest and it wasn't even close. Shame that we so rarely take advantage of that. Still, why put a ball over the top for a fast striker to chase when you can lump it up to a big centre forward.

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:32 am

Charlie Taylor said we don't have any ?

He should be dropped, if someone spoke like that about their fellow work colleagues they would be down the road

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:34 am

dibraidio wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:31 am
They said Dwight would be upset if they didn't say him. I thought it was interesting that they said Vydra was the fastest and it wasn't even close. Shame that we so rarely take advantage of that. Still, why put a ball over the top for a fast striker to chase when you can lump it up to a big centre forward.
Doesn’t matter how fast Vydra is if he’s sat on the bench

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:54 am

First touch is also technique, so JBG would be included, along with McNeil and Vydra.

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Post by Sutton-Claret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:33 am

I was once watching Ashley Barnes warming up before a game with Westwood. They were hitting long balls to each other the full width of the pitch, one touch and fire back. Barnes' first touch, control and accuracy with his cross back was very impressive whereas Westwood was pretty average.

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by DCWat » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:11 am

Sutton-Claret wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:33 am
I was once watching Ashley Barnes warming up before a game with Westwood. They were hitting long balls to each other the full width of the pitch, one touch and fire back. Barnes' first touch, control and accuracy with his cross back was very impressive whereas Westwood was pretty average.
Some of Barnes’s control, of very difficult balls, is really impressive. He doesn’t always get the credit some of his play deserves, usually because he’s seen as more of a nuisance than anything else.
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Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:12 am

Kev Long is a qualified electrician if that counts?
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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:39 am

Need to define 'technical player', Newcastleclaret93. Do you mean a player with a wide range of techniques?

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by Bosscat » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:57 am

Dwight McNeil has nearly all the letters of "Technical" except the "a" and Charlie Taylor all except the "n" in their names...

So both have the most "Technical" letters in their names 🙂

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:03 am

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:39 am
Need to define 'technical player', Newcastleclaret93. Do you mean a player with a wide range of techniques?
I am assuming they are referring to technical football skill like touch, accuracy, balance etc...

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by Down_Rover » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:10 am

Bosscat wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:57 am
Dwight McNeil has nearly all the letters of "Technical" except the "a" and Charlie Taylor all except the "n" in their names...

So both have the most "Technical" letters in their names 🙂
Most commentators call him Dwight MacNeil

Bingo! All the letters

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by Bosscat » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:47 am

Down_Rover wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:10 am
Most commentators call him Dwight MacNeil

Bingo! All the letters
Next you will be saying Chris Woods 😲😲😲

🤔 Bit like the BBC call us Burnsley .... or Sky Sports called us the Tykes a few weeks ago ....

Wrong wrong wrong on all levels

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by whiffa » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:58 am

I'd nominate Jack Cork, can be great with the ball at his feet. Just my opinion.
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Post by bfcwest » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:04 pm

Jack Leckie in the under 18 squad

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Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:33 pm

Vydra. You don’t score the goal he scored against Southampton last season unless you’re incredibly gifted.

Hope he starts to get more of a chance, though I shan’t hold my breath.

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:43 pm

Dwight McNeil is an anagram of Tech Mild Wing.

Hope this helps.

:D :D :D
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Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:01 pm

Down_Rover wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:10 am
Most commentators call him Dwight MacNeil

Bingo! All the letters
He’s called D-Mac by the other players

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by Bop » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:56 pm

Sutton-Claret wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:33 am
I was once watching Ashley Barnes warming up before a game with Westwood. They were hitting long balls to each other the full width of the pitch, one touch and fire back. Barnes' first touch, control and accuracy with his cross back was very impressive whereas Westwood was pretty average.
I watched Barnes at an away game doing his shooting practice. After watching that I made a point of watching him do this whenever possible. Whether it was from a standstill, a ball over his head - or a ball drilled to him, he hit the net @9/10. I was very impressed with his accuracy. Wish he’d do it in games.

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Post by tiger76 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:07 pm

Bop wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:56 pm
I watched Barnes at an away game doing his shooting practice. After watching that I made a point of watching him do this whenever possible. Whether it was from a standstill, a ball over his head - or a ball drilled to him, he hit the net @9/10. I was very impressed with his accuracy. Wish he’d do it in games.
Barnes has scored some crackers for us down the years, and when he connects with a ball it stays hit, and if it's on target not many keepers will stop it.

In regards to the op, I'd say Cork, Jay Rod, McNeil & Vydra would be my top 4.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:17 pm

Surprised more people haven't mentioned Jay Rod.

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Post by edlass » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:39 pm

I love Barnes at his best. My favourite Barnes goal is the West Ham away one. This video from the west ham fans perspective is one of my go to, cheer me ups. Skip to 1:00 and watch Barnes crack that one in and the burnley fans bounce whilst the west ham fans groan!!

https://youtu.be/q8EWctSLnNQ

My Dad and I went to the etihad for the fa Cup defeat a few years back. Barnes was put through and scored a cracker (nevermind the second half). My dad asked me "When did Barnes through on goal become a sure thing?“ and it was true for a time. He didn't get many one on one's but he scored some great goals up to his injury. We only get sniffs at goal but he would take them. Hopefully he will get back there!

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Re: Who is Burnley’s most technical player

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:50 pm

There was a stat a while ago that Barnes hadn't scored a goal for us when taking more than two touches. I presume it still stands?
He does have a great technique for scoring instinctive goals.

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:14 pm

edlass wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:39 pm
I love Barnes at his best. My favourite Barnes goal is the West Ham away one. This video from the west ham fans perspective is one of my go to, cheer me ups. Skip to 1:00 and watch Barnes crack that one in and the burnley fans bounce whilst the west ham fans groan!!

https://youtu.be/q8EWctSLnNQ

Was that the same day that he knocked the protesting WHU fan over?
I loved that :D

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Post by edlass » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:40 pm

Yep it must be!

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Post by claret_in_exile » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:49 pm

Barnes is the most technically gifted of the team, I think. Some of the goals he's scored for us in the last couple of years have been superb.

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Post by Stayingup » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:10 am
According to Charlie Taylor we don’t have any. Haha that’s if you believe the video the club put out.

All jokes aside it made me think who do you think is Burnley’s most technical player?

I am going to go either JBG or McNeil

McNeil

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:47 pm

Can’t believe people are suggesting Barnes as our most technically gifted player. I know he’s better than given credit for but I would go as far to say Jay, Vydra, Gudmundsson, McNeil, Westwood, brownhill, Brady, Pieters, and maybe even Bardsley and Lowton are all more technically gifted players. Surprised nobody has mentioned brownhill. Very good strike on him as we saw in the cup and good on the ball.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:51 pm

Sticking you backside into a defender and throwing yourself to the flow in one seamless movement takes considerable technical ability - Barnes gets my vote

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Post by Belial » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:52 pm

It's between JBG and McNeil without a doubt. The only 2 who can actually take someone on

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:57 am

edlass wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:39 pm
I love Barnes at his best. My favourite Barnes goal is the West Ham away one. This video from the west ham fans perspective is one of my go to, cheer me ups. Skip to 1:00 and watch Barnes crack that one in and the burnley fans bounce whilst the west ham fans groan!!

https://youtu.be/q8EWctSLnNQ

My Dad and I went to the etihad for the fa Cup defeat a few years back. Barnes was put through and scored a cracker (nevermind the second half). My dad asked me "When did Barnes through on goal become a sure thing?“ and it was true for a time. He didn't get many one on one's but he scored some great goals up to his injury. We only get sniffs at goal but he would take them. Hopefully he will get back there!
I was there.....again!! :D

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Post by Quicknick » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:15 am

DCWat wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:11 am
Some of Barnes’s control, of very difficult balls, is really impressive. He doesn’t always get the credit some of his play deserves, usually because he’s seen as more of a nuisance than anything else.
Which is probably why he's back in the side.

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Post by bfccrazy » Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:19 am

Bop wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:56 pm
I watched Barnes at an away game doing his shooting practice. After watching that I made a point of watching him do this whenever possible. Whether it was from a standstill, a ball over his head - or a ball drilled to him, he hit the net @9/10. I was very impressed with his accuracy. Wish he’d do it in games.
Think there was a stat a bit ago that he’s never scored for us with more than 2 touches before shooting.

Shows how deadly his finishing is because he touches and let’s it go. Rather than having to line it up etc

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Post by jrgbfc » Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:25 am

Can't believe people are suggesting Barnes. Has to be McNeil or Jay for me.

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Post by claretandy » Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:29 am

Barnes is the most gifted striker of a ball, we don't have any truly technically gifted players, Defour was the last. You need to be able to always receive the ball in tight spaces, and be able to find those passes that no-one else sees, like De-Bruyne.

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Post by 3putt » Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:51 pm

Quite possibly Vydra 🙄, if,as some are saying he is also the fastest, it is criminal that he isn’t been played 😞No wonder we are bottom of the division 😕

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Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:08 pm

McNeil or possibly JBG when he's not injured.

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Post by Shaggy » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:15 pm

An argument could be made for McNeil, JBG, Vydra or id possibly throw Jay into the mix.

If only we had another Robbie Blake, he’s possibly the most technically gifted player iv seen play for us and that includes Defour.

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Post by superdimitri » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:26 pm

claretandy wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:29 am
Barnes is the most gifted striker of a ball, we don't have any truly technically gifted players, Defour was the last. You need to be able to always receive the ball in tight spaces, and be able to find those passes that no-one else sees, like De-Bruyne.
No denying De Bruyne has great technique but playing a pass and seeing a pass are two different things. Seeing a pass is more about a players vision than their technique. Technique is more about how you execute the move. Be it a pass, shot, cross, header, dribble, control etc

A player like Westwood has great technique, but you can't say he has much vision or creativity to pick a forward pass.

You have players like Barnes who has excellent close control, can hit a shot first time very cleanly but rarely will play a good through ball.

That's the problem with our squad, we have players will great technique but it's the creativity, flair and vision that we lack. He probably won't keep fit but Lallana was a great signing for Brighton and exactly the kind of player we lack.

Our players are very limited. Pope is another example, great technique when saving, handling etc but awful kicking.

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