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Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:37 pm

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Max Verstappen has just set the fastest lap....in his gulley sucker 😂
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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:53 pm

Stroll on pole

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:54 pm

Nice to have a new face having a bit of glory,he sounds very happy ☺️

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:58 pm

I duno if I want a wet race or a slippy dry one. Gonna be good, that's fo sho' !

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:00 pm

Definitely wanted Verstappen or Perez on pole, cannot stand Lance Stroll.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:03 pm

claretburns wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:00 pm
Definitely wanted Verstappen or Perez on pole, cannot stand Lance Stroll.
Because he's an irritating little billionaire son? Not my cup of tea either.

Wait till the Russian boys come in over the next few years, starting with Marzipan. You won't be able to look away from the sponsors for "Ural" this and "Gaz" that!

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by claretburns » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:13 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:03 pm
Because he's an irritating little billionaire son? Not my cup of tea either.

Wait till the Russian boys come in over the next few years, starting with Marzipan. You won't be able to look away from the sponsors for "Ural" this and "Gaz" that!
Exactly that reason! On sporting merit he would be losing his seat this season with Perez being retained instead but due to "Daddy" pulling the strings he stays in, also something happened similar a few years with Williams, Williams wanted to get rid of Stroll but Stroll senior was funding the team, so he withdrew all the funding because he wouldn't believe the race/qualifying stats from Stroll's performances being poor in the car.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:31 pm

claretburns wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:13 pm
Exactly that reason! On sporting merit he would be losing his seat this season with Perez being retained instead but due to "Daddy" pulling the strings he stays in, also something happened similar a few years with Williams, Williams wanted to get rid of Stroll but Stroll senior was funding the team, so he withdrew all the funding because he wouldn't believe the race/qualifying stats from Stroll's performances being poor in the car.
Sad but true. Sign of the times.

Take away Ferrari/Merc/McLaren/Redbull and the rest are pretty much funded through the drivers various sponsorships/daddys.

Stroll did really well today but over the course of 4 seasons or whatever he's hardly been above average at best.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by kaptin1 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:43 pm

I always think wet conditions like that show who the best drivers are rather than just those with the best cars. Schumacher, the “regenmeister”, used to excel in those sorts of conditions. For a while today, Verstappen was head and shoulders above the rest but the team got the tyre choice wrong for the final stint whereas the Racing Point guys got it spot on. Raikkonen also showed his ability and experience, although Giovinazzi did well in the Alfa too.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by tarkys_ears » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:59 pm

Some penalties incoming due to the yellow flags

Stroll has avoided any penalty so looks like his PP will stand. Some penalties for blocking for sainz and something for Norris.

Was a right mess in qualy, so will probably take a few hours for a certain picture.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by conyoviejo » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:05 pm

What a delight!!!

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:58 pm

The wet really levels the field and the true super talents like Verstappen and Raikkonen really show their stuff . Suprised how Hamilton struggled though .Stroll’s ( I had a dream ...and a billion dollars ) team got the tyre call on perfect timing with a good showing from Albon and remarkable stuff from Kimi who top 4 in all Q sessions in a car woefully underpowered . Slippery rather than soaking could be good fun tomorrowv

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by fanzone » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:06 pm

Is this football related

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by taio » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:08 pm

fanzone wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:06 pm
Is this football related
No it's Formula 1 related which is permitted on here along with many other subjects not relating to football ;)
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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:31 pm

Great quali. Wish they were all like that.

40% chance of rain tomorrow so hopefully an exciting race and Hamilton matching Schumacher’s record.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by superdimitri » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:16 am

Whilst I agree about Stroll he's still a pretty quick driver. You don't put a car on pole in F1 if you aren't.
There's been a lot poorer drivers in the sport then him in the past also for financial reasons. But if you do your research on him he was no slouch in the junior categories. Yes he jumped straight from f3 too F1 but it's not like he hasn't won anything.

Perez wouldn't be in F1 if it wasn't for the money he brings. He's a much better driver than Stroll but also s lot more experienced.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by timshorts » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:08 am

As a force India racing point etc fan, I'm really unhappy with the dropping of perez for next season in favour of vettel.

It's wrong on so many levels. Perez saved the team from near extinction and on this seasons evidence, there is nothing to show that vettel will be anything but a retrograde step.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:10 am

Lights out at 10am, for those that care. Don’t let yesterdays 12noon quali throw you.
Praying for a wet race and nobody gets hurt.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:41 am

Thanks for the tip off. Would have missed it! :shock:

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:57 am

This will be fun impossible to predict the outcome

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:59 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:57 am
This will be fun impossible to predict the outcome
Looks like a wet track to start with rain on the way, so assume they’ll have to start on inters and swap to wets fairly early on!

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:03 am

I'll go for Ricciardo win.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:10 am

kaptin1 wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:43 pm
I always think wet conditions like that show who the best drivers are rather than just those with the best cars. Schumacher, the “regenmeister”, used to excel in those sorts of conditions. For a while today, Verstappen was head and shoulders above the rest but the team got the tyre choice wrong for the final stint whereas the Racing Point guys got it spot on. Raikkonen also showed his ability and experience, although Giovinazzi did well in the Alfa too.
I never seen anyone handle driving in the wet like Hamilton, yet he was shite today, so maybe there is a lot more to it than just the rain.

As much as I like hiom he does tend to whinge and feel sorry for himself, when everyone else just gets on with it. He should take a leaf from Verstappen, it's the same for everybody.

Staying on the track is hard enough, so overtaking is impossible. I should think todays race will have the fewest ever finishers, and the winner. Toss a coin.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Dyched » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:16 am

I’d love Seb to win this!!
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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Dyched » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:21 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:10 am
I never seen anyone handle driving in the wet like Hamilton, yet he was shite today, so maybe there is a lot more to it than just the rain.

As much as I like hiom he does tend to whinge and feel sorry for himself, when everyone else just gets on with it. He should take a leaf from Verstappen, it's the same for everybody.

Staying on the track is hard enough, so overtaking is impossible. I should think todays race will have the fewest ever finishers, and the winner. Toss a coin.
Belgium 1998. Watch it on Youtube.
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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Zlatan » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:35 am

Dyched wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:21 am
Belgium 1998. Watch it on Youtube.
Thanks for the reminder of that race, that was some scary stuff

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:48 am

Max stupid there :(

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:54 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:10 am
I never seen anyone handle driving in the wet like Hamilton, yet he was shite today, so maybe there is a lot more to it than just the rain.
Think this particular race is also hindered by the new surface being very sloppy. Mercs just can’t get the car set up properly to find any grip - Bottas just having his third spin. Agree it’s same for all though. Other teams doing much better on setup this week, which makes F1 much more exciting.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Bosscat » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:21 am

Fascinating race this 🙂

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Dyched » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:29 am

Could do with a bit more rain. Procession until the end otherwise.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 am

Congrats to Lewis on matching Michael Schumacer's World titles, probably the two greatest F1 drivers in history...Winners!

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by icu81b4 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:59 am

Yep, Congrats Lewis.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:01 pm

Congratulations Lewis. History being made there.

Absolute masterclass.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:01 pm

Lewis owes Michael a big debt,MS helped develop the Mercedes car for Lewis,without actually winning a race in it...thanks Michael.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by taio » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:01 pm

Excellent drive by Hamilton. One of the best British sportsman of all time.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:03 pm

Hamilton only won because he’s got the best car. That’s why him and Bottas did so well today.
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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:05 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:03 pm
Hamilton only won because he’s got the best car. That’s why him and Bottas did so well today.
😉

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:06 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:05 pm
😉

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Dyched » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:06 pm

Interesting race that.

Hamilton showing he is a true all time great.

Bottas showing he is so far out of his depth. He should be nowhere near a Mercedes.

Verstappen will never be World Champion. I’m pretty confident in that.

Perez showing he’s far superior to Stroll.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:07 pm

Clearly turning your inters to slicks was the best option.

I cannot believe that no one tried the softs today. "It's gonna rain heavy on the last lap" yeah right, they say that every time there's a GP with clouds above it.

Masterclass from Hamilton today, but we all knew he would win somehow, didn't we?

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Dyched » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:07 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:03 pm
Hamilton only won because he’s got the best car. That’s why him and Bottas did so well today.
Bottas fancied a bit of ballet today I think.

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Post by Dyched » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:09 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:07 pm
Clearly turning your inters to slicks was the best option.

I cannot believe that no one tried the softs today. "It's gonna rain heavy on the last lap" yeah right, they say that every time there's a GP with clouds above it.

Masterclass from Hamilton today, but we all knew he would win somehow, didn't we?
Too much of a risk I think. Had the Ferraris been further back the Red Bulls would have had a go on slicks. Too much of a risk losing points whilst the Ferraris were 3rd and 4th.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Mrpotatohead » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:10 pm

When Hamilton was 6th and out-braked himself going for the overtake, a friend of mine messaged me saying how these conditions bring the best drivers to the fore and it shows how Hamilton isn't that good when the conditions don't suit him and the car.

As frustrating as his hypocrisy can be sometimes, I think that result sums his career up. Yet another masterclass and I don't doubt he will achieve an 8th world title before he calls it a day.

Fantastic.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:10 pm

Bottas does everything Mercedes need and want of him.

The only thing that would change their mind is if Lewis leaves, which I can only see happening to quit F1. No way he'd move teams... even if Ferrari got some pace.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:13 pm

Dyched wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:09 pm
Too much of a risk I think. Had the Ferraris been further back the Red Bulls would have had a go on slicks. Too much of a risk losing points whilst the Ferraris were 3rd and 4th.
I'm still certain Brundle was right saying those tyres would immediately be 10 seconds a lap quicker.

If Danny Ric wasn't in the points, I reckon he'd have switched after he had his spin just before the pit entry with a few laps left.

Shame no one did, it would have been nice to see just how they'd have worked.
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Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:16 pm

Dyched wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:06 pm
Interesting race that.

Hamilton showing he is a true all time great.

Bottas showing he is so far out of his depth. He should be nowhere near a Mercedes.

Verstappen will never be World Champion. I’m pretty confident in that.

Perez showing he’s far superior to Stroll.
Felt pretty sorry for Stroll though. Didn’t want to pit and then couldn’t get the new tyres to work while Perez steamed on. Not sure he’d have claimed a podium either way but think he’d have got a better result.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Dyched » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:17 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:13 pm
I'm still certain Brundle was right saying those tyres would immediately be 10 seconds a lap quicker.

If Danny Ric wasn't in the points, I reckon he'd have switched after he had his spin just before the pit entry with a few laps left.

Shame no one did, it would have been nice to see just how they'd have worked.
I’m with of there. I hoped someone would have tried. Teams all had valuable points though. The coming good of Ferrari certainly changed it. They’ve closed the gap on teams around them a bit now. Getting close between Renault, Racing Point and Ferrari. Looking at it the Red Bulls are well ahead so should have had a go.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:18 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:10 pm
Bottas does everything Mercedes need and want of him.

The only thing that would change their mind is if Lewis leaves, which I can only see happening to quit F1. No way he'd move teams... even if Ferrari got some pace.
Tbh, I think Lewis would drive for whoever had the most pace.

Reckon he’d fancy a season or two at Ferrari to help recover their fortunes if ever they found some pace.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:20 pm

Mrpotatohead wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:10 pm
When Hamilton was 6th and out-braked himself going for the overtake, a friend of mine messaged me saying how these conditions bring the best drivers to the fore and it shows how Hamilton isn't that good when the conditions don't suit him and the car.

As frustrating as his hypocrisy can be sometimes, I think that result sums his career up. Yet another masterclass and I don't doubt he will achieve an 8th world title before he calls it a day.

Fantastic.
I think he may well get to 10 world titles. Think only the changes in 2022 could prevent it. He will be world champion again next season.

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Re: Turkish Grand Prix

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:20 pm

Oh well, on to Bahrain. It'll be interesting to see what the outer track is like.

Best season I can remember, certainly since the "hybrid era" anyway.

Shame F1 don't appreciate all these new tracks have done for them this season and are going back to all the Tilke-dromes next season - it'll be back to boring business as usual.

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