RIP Ray Clemence
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Hell of a good goalkeeper who probably suffered international wise because of Peter Shilton being around at the same time.
I know he had a cancer a few years ago from which he recovered but shocked at today's news.
I know he had a cancer a few years ago from which he recovered but shocked at today's news.
Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Sad news. RIP.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Spot on
And he did contribute to one of our few successes of the 80's
A great career
And he did contribute to one of our few successes of the 80's
A great career
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Sad news. Great keeper in a brilliant Liverpool side. Didn't he concede only 16 goals in one season? I met Ray along with a couple of others in St Albans prior to the 2002 World Cup and had my photo taken holding the trophy, of course wearing my Burnley shirt. I had a brief chat and reminded him of the 1983 Milk Cup game at White Hart Lane and how he wasn't sent off for handling the ball outside the area.
Nice bloke who was happy to chat with football fans. 72 years is no age at all. RIP Ray.
Nice bloke who was happy to chat with football fans. 72 years is no age at all. RIP Ray.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Great keeper from an era of great keepers.RIP.
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A world class goalkeeper rip
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
I believe he alternated many games with Peter Shilton which reduced number of caps
remembered fondly!
RIP Ray
remembered fondly!
RIP Ray
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This is a real shock. Ray Clemence was a truly great goalkeeper. He could virtually have nothing to do on occasions given the brilliance of the Liverpool defence he played behind, but when called upon, he would pull off a couple of brilliant saves. Great levels of concentration and if not for Shilton he would have won well over 100 caps. RIP Ray Clemence and sincere condolences to his family and friends.
Re: RIP Ray Clemence
RIP, great keeper.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Very good goalkeeper who I think was bought from Scunthorpe just as Kevin Keegan was a few years later. Not sure whether it was seen as being a 'good' problem for any manager to have Shilton and him to choose from. I was at Hampden Park in the 70's when he let in a very soft goal from Kenny Dalglish. RIP to a top professional of his day.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Lot of very good English keepers around in his day.
Along with Shilton, he was the best going through the 70s.
R.I.P Ray
Along with Shilton, he was the best going through the 70s.
R.I.P Ray
Re: RIP Ray Clemence
When I was a kid, everyone wanted to be Clemence, not Shilton. I always thought he was the better goalkpeeper, very sad news.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
That's a shocker.
RIP Ray, top class keeper.
RIP Ray, top class keeper.
Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Sad to hear ... RIP
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
R.I.P. Ray... A top notch keeper .
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Yes, great keeper and a top professional.
RIP Ray.
Think he was in goal when Ian Brennan fired in that brilliant goal at Anfield in 1974.
RIP Ray.
Think he was in goal when Ian Brennan fired in that brilliant goal at Anfield in 1974.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
RIP
Excellent Keepet
Excellent Keepet
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A top keeper, he would have punched Maradona in the head rather than choke like Shilton did letting the cheating bxxxxxx score
RIP Ray
RIP Ray
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One of Liverpool's greatest ever keeper, as he was for England RIP
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One hell of a goalkeeper who I remember seeing play a number of times.
Rest in Peace
Rest in Peace
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Always liked Ray Clemence. RIP La......d.Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:34 pmA top keeper, he would have punched Maradona in the head rather than choke like Shilton did letting the cheating bxxxxxx score
RIP Ray
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
If Shilton hadnt been around Clemence would easily have got a 100 + caps, not sure how many he got but it was a decent amount..RIP Ray .
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Great goalkeeper RIP
Re: RIP Ray Clemence
So young.
Decent keeper.
Decent keeper.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
That's a hell of a shock. A great keeper in a great side. Bless the lad.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Even competing with the great Peter Shilton, he managed 61 caps, so that shows how much various England managers rated him throughout his long career.
RIP Ray
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
RIP, Ray.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
I've heard this before. And also seen a lot of criticism sent Shiltons way. Although much of that may be down to his later years and personality.
But Shilton surely must have been a top keeper to have amassed 125 caps (still a record) in times we didn't always get to tournaments and had several great keepers to compete with. Clemence. Banks. And latterly Woods and Seaman.
Was Shilton lucky, or was he actually a very good keeper who probably stayed too long?
Re: RIP Ray Clemence
Shilton was an excellent keeper, although he never seemed to be able to save a penalty, didn't usually get anywhere near them.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:23 pmI've heard this before. And also seen a lot of criticism sent Shiltons way. Although much of that may be down to his later years and personality.
But Shilton surely must have been a top keeper to have amassed 125 caps (still a record) in times we didn't always get to tournaments and had several great keepers to compete with. Clemence. Banks. And latterly Woods and Seaman.
Was Shilton lucky, or was he actually a very good keeper who probably stayed too long?
If Clemence hadn't been around at the same time Shilton wouldn't have been much short of 200 caps.
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Shilton was world class at his peak.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:23 pmI've heard this before. And also seen a lot of criticism sent Shiltons way. Although much of that may be down to his later years and personality.
But Shilton surely must have been a top keeper to have amassed 125 caps (still a record) in times we didn't always get to tournaments and had several great keepers to compete with. Clemence. Banks. And latterly Woods and Seaman.
Was Shilton lucky, or was he actually a very good keeper who probably stayed too long?
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He was in goal that night but not sure any goalkeeper would have come close to saving it.ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:27 pmYes, great keeper and a top professional.
RIP Ray.
Think he was in goal when Ian Brennan fired in that brilliant goal at Anfield in 1974.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
I've never forgiven Shilton for his half arsed attempt at stopping Maradona cheat us out of that game way back when,poor goalkeeping in probably the biggest game of his career
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On the penalties I listened to a podcast recently with Dave Beasant. Ironically same podcast that alluded to shiltons character.
Beasant said shiltons tactic was to dive after the penalty was taken. Which meant he almost always went the right way. But leaving it so late means you’ve no chance of getting there. And better to gamble as the odds are better.
On his character Beasant said the only two players who didn’t feature at italia90 were himself and Chris woods. They were due to play half each so they could both get a World Cup cap. But shilton refused to step down as it was his last and 125th game.
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The biggest was 1990. When the ball looped over his head.
Then on the penalties he went the right way on all of them I think. But as above his technique meant he go nowhere near.
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Anyway. Back on clemence. Sorry.
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You have to say we were blessed to have them both at the same time. I doubt there were better goalkeepers anywhere in the world when they were at their peak.
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Re: RIP Ray Clemence
I can't say I blame Shilton for that. 125 games is a milestone.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:49 pmOn the penalties I listened to a podcast recently with Dave Beasant. Ironically same podcast that alluded to shiltons character.
Beasant said shiltons tactic was to dive after the penalty was taken. Which meant he almost always went the right way. But leaving it so late means you’ve no chance of getting there. And better to gamble as the odds are better.
On his character Beasant said the only two players who didn’t feature at italia90 were himself and Chris woods. They were due to play half each so they could both get a World Cup cap. But shilton refused to step down as it was his last and 125th game.