Jay or vydra signing

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Jay & Vydra deals

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:05 am

Signs a contract extension along with Jay taking them to 2022.

Pleased for Vydra. Gives him longer to prove himself. But he must be frustrated.

Just started to get a good run too when Covid hit.

Hope he can feature more now.

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Jay or vydra signing

Post by Grumps » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:05 am

One of them looks to be signing new contract

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:06 am

Both signed extension till summer 2022.

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by Grumps » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:08 am

Didn't think it would be both tbh... Good news

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by MACCA » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:11 am

Aren't the club just activating the 1 year options?
Or have the signed a new contract until 2022, with the extra 1 year option still available?
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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:16 am

Would be interesting to know whether it was the players themselves, or the club, who exercised the options
Pretty sure Jay would have been more than happy to stay for longer but, have to say surprised if Vydra did the same (based on appearances/time on pitch)
We've had the same situation in the recent past where both Hendrick and Brady had contracts extended by the club and not neccessarily themselves

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by Sproggy » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:16 am

“It’s really good for my family to be settled and to know that we will be here for another year,” said Vydra.

“It’s been a successful time for the club while I’ve been here, playing in Europe and doing well in the Premier League.

“I get on well with all my team-mates here and it’s a good group to be part of.

“I still want to play my part and that’s something I’m aiming to keep doing.”
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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by wilks_bfc » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:16 am

MACCA wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:11 am
Aren't the club just activating the 1 year options?
Or have the signed a new contract until 2022, with the extra 1 year option still available?
Reading the article it sounds like it’s “player” rather than club activation

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by yosserhughes » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:17 am

Really didn't think he would sign with the lack of playing time.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by nyclaret » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:19 am

Did he sign or was it triggered by the club?

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:19 am

Good news.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by jedi_master » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:21 am

yosserhughes wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:17 am
Really didn't think he would sign with the lack of playing time.
If it’s a triggered extension he has no say in it.

Right thing to do either way as we can at least sell him for a tidy sum still if he isn’t going to be involved much. Good news on Jay also.

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:22 am

MACCA wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:11 am
Aren't the club just activating the 1 year options?
Or have the signed a new contract until 2022, with the extra 1 year option still available?
Thinking about it, I doubt either would have been so happy with just the offer of an extra year given Westwood was offered a longer contract, to 2023, earlier this season

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Dyched » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:28 am

People often overlook personal life in player decisions and look at the football side too much. Always 50/50 if not more on the personal life. He has to look after his family and with lots of loans and moves throughout his career, he’s probably more than enjoying a bit of stability and the opportunity to stay in one place for 4 years.
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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:28 am

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:21 am
If it’s a triggered extension he has no say in it.

Right thing to do either way as we can at least sell him for a tidy sum still if he isn’t going to be involved much. Good news on Jay also.
Fair enough. Although does give him a bit more security.

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:29 am

Sproggy wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:16 am
“It’s really good for my family to be settled and to know that we will be here for another year,” said Vydra.

“It’s been a successful time for the club while I’ve been here, playing in Europe and doing well in the Premier League.

“I get on well with all my team-mates here and it’s a good group to be part of.

“I still want to play my part and that’s something I’m aiming to keep doing.”
Fair enough

More than happy to see both of them staying and would have liked to have seen another year on top for both

Just another 10 players to make decisions on by the end of the season ;)

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:30 am

On another note. In the event we do go down, we could do a lot worse than have these two as our first choice front two. Assuming that Wood would leave.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:33 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:30 am
On another note. In the event we do go down, we could do a lot worse than have these two as our first choice front two. Assuming that Wood would leave.
Good thinking in these two signing a contract extension like you say they would rip the Championship a new one..hope it dosent happen but good forward thinking by the club

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Dyched » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:34 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:33 am
Good thinking in these two signing a contract extension like you say they would rip the Championship a new one..hope it dosent happen but good forward thinking by the club
Negative *******.

Sorry, had to get in there first before the others :lol:

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:47 am

Dyched wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:34 am
Negative *******.

Sorry, had to get in there first before the others :lol:
And there is me thinking you was my friend :(
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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:53 am

Very pleased with this, I was worried that he might not be happy with the amount of game time he is getting, but obviously he's settled here.

I put on the Citeh score prediction thread, that I would start Vyds and Jay on Saturday, just because we need pace against their high line, and Chris isn't quick enough. After the news of both of them extending, I think it's an even better idea.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Peter Loo » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:57 am

People often overlook personal life in player decisions and look at the football side too much. Always 50/50 if not more on the personal life. He has to look after his family and with lots of loans and moves throughout his career, he’s probably more than enjoying a bit of stability and the opportunity to stay in one place for 4 years.

Good point Dyched.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Wellsy1882 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:59 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:30 am
On another note. In the event we do go down, we could do a lot worse than have these two as our first choice front two. Assuming that Wood would leave.
Whos gunna take on wood really in the prem

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by JohnDearyMe » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:08 am

Wellsy1882 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:59 am
Whos gunna take on wood really in the prem
Given his very good goalscoring record you'd imagine a sizeable number of clubs would be in for him

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:17 am

Wellsy1882 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:59 am
Whos gunna take on wood really in the prem
Anyone outside of the top 6..a proven goal scorer at that level

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Trevburnley » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:17 am

14 goals last season in a team that’s under the cosh a lot is no mean feat. I would have thought 1 or 2 premiership teams would be interested

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by warksclaret » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:19 am

Surprised to see another year for him. Personally I am not convinced. I appreciate he runs his socks off and gets into great positions,and has been restricted in a number of games, however this is his third season and he has 4 PL goals to show for it. Would love to see his ratio of goal chances v actual goals. He had an extended run post February, and played in the majority of the post lockdown games last season , so has had a more recent run to show his ability. Its no different to Jay Rod, but he took his chances when in and out of the team. For me we are exposed-we have two great strikers in Jay and Wood, and are in serious danger of not having a top notch striker in the wings. Barnes is not the answer, as coaches and defenders now find it easy to take him out of a game, shown repeatedly this season. He is good to bring on with 10-15 minutes to go when you want someone to win you free kicks in the attacking position of play. The way we are set up you need a Josh King type player (maybe on loan in January), who can do what Barnes does but actually find the net more regularly. I hope this move by the club does not restrict us in January. A lot of fans will say that the forwards in the club are our strength, however we will defend very well this season against most clubs and you need strikers who can nick you a goal despite low possession. Thats what gets you the points,and PL survival

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by dermotdermot » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:34 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:30 am
On another note. In the event we do go down, we could do a lot worse than have these two as our first choice front two. Assuming that Wood would leave.
We are NOT going down!

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by NewClaret » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:01 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:08 am
Given his very good goalscoring record you'd imagine a sizeable number of clubs would be in for him
Absolutely. Strikers that bag 10+ in the prem per season are not as common as you might think. Many would take him. Suspect a few of the top 6 would welcome him on to their bench tbf.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:05 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:05 am
Pleased for Vydra. Gives him longer to prove himself. But he must be frustrated.

Hope he can feature more now.
Agreed. We haven't seen the best from Vydra as yet.

What we need is "service" to our strikers, whether that be from wingers, midfield or wing-backs.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:06 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:30 am
On another note. In the event we do go down, we could do a lot worse than have these two as our first choice front two. Assuming that Wood would leave.
SD will have Barnes starting before Vydra even if Wood were to leave

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Quicknick » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:25 pm

I'm glad he's staying.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by superdimitri » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:31 pm

Obviously still has a role to play. Good on him for not being a Gibson.
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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by mkmel » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:32 pm

How long are the contracts for of Chris Wood and Ashley Barnes?

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:37 pm

mkmel wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:32 pm
How long are the contracts for of Chris Wood and Ashley Barnes?
Wood, 2023. Barnes 2022 with the option of extending it to 2023.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by CFS » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:38 pm

All these players will sign extensions knowing rich owners are on their way. Couple of standout games and a big contract could be round the corner for them or pull a tarks and say you want to leave.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:49 pm

Chris wood is very much the footballing equivalent of Dyche.

They are great for Burnley but I doubt either them would be of interest to many other premier league clubs. Not down to ability but purely style.

Wood can score goals but his all round contribution is actually pretty poor. His touch is ok but his passing and dribbling is surprisingly poor. Would struggle to get in another prem team.

Newcastle - bench
West Ham - bench
Fulham - bench
West Brom - possibly start but doesn’t really suit there style of play.
Palace - bench
Sheffield United - starts every game

Struggling to find many teams where he gets in

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:52 pm

I like the player and wish he had far more game time.

But I hope the club has done this to get a £10m transfer fee for him. The club has become very wasteful recently.
Our club needs to at least re-coup monies paid if not make a profit on players.
We can't keep letting players go for free.

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:32 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:16 am
Reading the article it sounds like it’s “player” rather than club activation
Club activation - the one year option on both

Having had the morning off, and this thread is on the board, I'll just add that I've now got something on site at:

https://www.uptheclarets.com/jay-rod-an ... tend-stays

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:53 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:49 pm
Chris wood is very much the footballing equivalent of Dyche.

They are great for Burnley but I doubt either them would be of interest to many other premier league clubs. Not down to ability but purely style.

Wood can score goals but his all round contribution is actually pretty poor. His touch is ok but his passing and dribbling is surprisingly poor. Would struggle to get in another prem team.

Newcastle - bench
West Ham - bench
Fulham - bench
West Brom - possibly start but doesn’t really suit there style of play.
Palace - bench
Sheffield United - starts every game

Struggling to find many teams where he gets in
I think he'd walk into the Palace team. Their strikers are terrible IMO

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:02 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:53 am
Very pleased with this, I was worried that he might not be happy with the amount of game time he is getting, but obviously he's settled here.

I put on the Citeh score prediction thread, that I would start Vyds and Jay on Saturday, just because we need pace against their high line, and Chris isn't quick enough. After the news of both of them extending, I think it's an even better idea.
I can see the logic but I’d rather persist with the jay and wood partnership initially.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:03 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:17 am
Anyone outside of the top 6..a proven goal scorer at that level
Even Spurs could do worse as a backup to Kane.

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Re: Vydra to stay

Post by Conroy92 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:24 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:49 pm
Chris wood is very much the footballing equivalent of Dyche.

They are great for Burnley but I doubt either them would be of interest to many other premier league clubs. Not down to ability but purely style.

Wood can score goals but his all round contribution is actually pretty poor. His touch is ok but his passing and dribbling is surprisingly poor. Would struggle to get in another prem team.

Newcastle - bench
West Ham - bench
Fulham - bench
West Brom - possibly start but doesn’t really suit there style of play.
Palace - bench
Sheffield United - starts every game

Struggling to find many teams where he gets in
I actually agree that his all round game is not as good as others however if he had all round game AND goals he'd probably be at a top 6 premier league side.

To suggest he wouldn't start for some of those sides is ridiculous imo, Newcastle's top scorer in the league last year netted 6 goals!
I don't think Callum Wilson or Antonio are better players than Wood and I wouldn't drop Wood for either of them!

An honest question, would you rather have a striker who scores 6-10 goals and looks better, or a striker that nets 10-15 and looks worse?

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:35 pm

Have to say that, after his performances since coming back, Jay could/should have been offered an extra year on top of this deal. Westwood is older yet gets that extra 12 months at the beginning of the season.
Maybe one of the reasons for these new short extensions is just that the Chairman will not commit the club to further financial obligations at this moment in time
This proposed/rumored takeover is now seeming to be having a major impact on the club and Garlick's legacy appears to be diminishing with the passing of every month based on the lack of strengthening within the aging squad and the constant bickering in the corridors of power
10 more players out of contract this summer shows, for me, a lack of long term financial planning. Three of them are youngsters but hard decisions need to be made as to whether they are seen to have a viable future at the club. As to the other seven senior players I would not be that upset if few or none were offered new deals but I'm not sure I have the confidence in our recruitment team to find suitable replacements or even that they were going to be given the financial backing to do so if no takeover happens
Most people thought the PR from last summer's debacle on expiring contracts was bad enough so lets wait to see what happens when this season finishes

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by Murger » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:08 pm

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by ZizkovClaret » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:14 pm

I've got on with him, but its his job to find a move for Matej if that is what they want, they knew the clauses in the contract from when it was signed. Unfortunately for them, the current climate isnt one where there are many suitors willing and able to pay the necessary fee or wages.

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by Conroy92 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:49 pm

Murger wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:08 pm
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This is a bit of a worry, if true.

That makes 2 who want to move, Tarks and Vyds. Any one else?

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:16 pm

Wood is very much underrated by most on here it seems. Would be a great player for a lot of teams in the prem. his goal scoring ability is excellent. In an attacking team he would score a hatful as he has a shot success rate only bettered by the likes of aguero/Kane.
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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by MACCA » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:30 pm

Conroy92 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:49 pm
This is a bit of a worry, if true.

That makes 2 who want to move, Tarks and Vyds. Any one else?
Me, I'm looking for a 4 bed detached, nice south facing flat back garden. A games room or double garage I can convert would be ideal.

Looking to down size now the kids are getting older.

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Re: Jay or vydra signing

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:36 pm

I'd assume Jay is more than happy with this, but re Vydra, as his agent seems to be pointing out, I'd suspect he's less so because he still can't see himself getting many more opportunities. IMO it's more about the club ensuring that we can ask for a decent fee if he wants away and we get interest from other clubs next summer.

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