Match Day Thread - Man City v Burnley

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:51 pm

Citys players are so fluid in their positioning. They’ll swap positions, move the ball as quickly as they can change positions as quickly.

We’re to rigid. Stuck in positions, slow at moving and slow at moving the ball.

It’s like our players only operate on an x or y axis whilst Citys are all over the place.

The best indication of that is McNeil. He’ll pass back often, which is fine if there is nothing on. But there’s nothing on because our players don’t move. The best bit is then McNeil deciding he’ll make a run along the same line as he’s just passed the ball down, thus taking him out of the game. Make yourself an angle to receive the ball.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:51 pm

Safron wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:48 pm
How about trying vydra for an half, and try to pass the ball forward simple

I'll have a pint of whatever you're on

Dyche doesn't do a Vydra

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:51 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:50 pm
Tell you what I’d do against City. Play 5 at the back, 4 in midfield, 1 up front. Joke playing 3 strikers.

Yes, should utilize our squad depth...

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:52 pm

That's as poor a half we have ever played in the Premier league...absolutely shockingly bad....men versus new born babies

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:52 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:50 pm
Tell you what I’d do against City. Play 5 at the back, 4 in midfield, 1 up front. Joke playing 3 strikers.

He’s playing 3 strikers because JBG not fit enough to start game, J Rod is on the right wing

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:52 pm

Vydra JBG and Pieters on Lowton Benson and Barnes off
Lowton gifted the last goal but our non tackling midfield the other two
We need a new right back in January and a ball winning cm

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm

1 attempt
0 on target from Burnley.

We have an awful long way to go to hope to compete against the high rollers

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm

Dyched wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:51 pm
Citys players are so fluid in their positioning. They’ll swap positions, move the ball as quickly as they can change positions as quickly.

We’re to rigid. Stuck in positions, slow at moving and slow at moving the ball.

It’s like our players only operate on an x or y axis whilst Citys are all over the place.

The best indication of that is McNeil. He’ll pass back often, which is fine if there is nothing on. But there’s nothing on because our players don’t move. The best bit is then McNeil deciding he’ll make a run along the same line as he’s just passed the ball down, thus taking him out of the game. Make yourself an angle to receive the ball.

McNeil passes back because he is 1 footed and players hav sussed him out

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:48 pm
Nothing is going our way and we've defended like little girls.

Feel sorry for Benson who is playing well.

Feel for BPF as well.
Not at fault for any of those and getting no help from anybody in front of him

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm

It looks like exceeding 5-0....

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm

What a day. To top it off, I have my Flu Jab in an hour.

Something tells me that won't be as painful.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:50 pm
Tell you what I’d do against City. Play 5 at the back, 4 in midfield, 1 up front. Joke playing 3 strikers.

That’s not the completely the joke. After arguably giving the best forward performance of the season, J Rod pushed out wide to do a make shift job is a bit daft. I’d understand if this was Barnes first game back from an injury but it’s not. He’s been garbage this season and no reason for him playing.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:48 pm
It's one of those days when it's going to look churlish to criticize the officials but Mason clearly doesn't want to give us anything.

Don't tell me that's nothing you haven't noticed before.

I once bumped into him on a train. He's from Bolton, he really doesn't like us. Makes no bones about it.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:50 pm
Tell you what I’d do against City. Play 5 at the back, 4 in midfield, 1 up front. Joke playing 3 strikers.

We're not actually playing 3 strikers as Jay is wide right

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:54 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:52 pm
Vydra JBG and Pieters on Lowton Benson and Barnes off
Lowton gifted the last goal but our non tackling midfield the other two
We need a new right back in January and a ball winning cm

Benson is the player with the best rating according to my app - and its not even close. Keep him on.

Pete76 · Post by **Pete76** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:54 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:45 pm
Hurry up ALK, and save us from this Charlatan and the wreck he has left.

I’ve not followed the ALK thread for a while but didn’t ALK says they wanted to keep Dyche?? Apologies if I’m wrong on that one.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm

I hope Garlick is as embarrassed and miserable as I am. Tarks not interested. Lowton totally out of his depth. Taylor getting the run around. Keeper looks in shock. Don’t know why the header was disallowed. Assume offside but didn’t look it. Could be any score unless City declare

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm

We'll be extremely fortunate to be only 5-0.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm

dougcollins wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm
Don't tell me that's nothing you haven't noticed before.

I once bumped into him on a train. He's from Bolton, he really doesn't like us. Makes no bones about it.

Did he give you a yellow card ?

diamondpocket · Post by **diamondpocket** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm

If we're gonna go defensive then we might as well have just defended the box like when a team is down to 10 men and gone for 0-0 that way.

2 banks of four, don't leave any space and let them come onto you until the edge of the box. Leave them for crosses out wide, which we'd win every header, and just don't let them get between lines and in spaces to turn and run at you. No point, even with 5 in midfield to pressure them in the middle of the pitch, they are too good and deadly with their passing.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:45 pm
Hurry up ALK, and save us from this Charlatan and the wreck he has left.

Bit harsh on Dyche. He’ll leave a lot of old lads but a wreck ?

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm

Poor from Lowton, Taylor and Tarka - well the whole defence really!

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm
What a day. To top it off, I have my Flu Jab in an hour.

Something tells me that won't be as painful.

I had the shits for a week after mine ...good luck

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm

Teams like city and arsenal are much better with the ball than )Liverpool Leicester etc.

So our approach to defend the space and make it difficult is not suited for these kind of games once we are behind especially. Poor poor first goal. And pretty sloppy second too.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:56 pm

Not at the races , hey same every year at City

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:57 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm
I had the shits for a week after mine ...good luck

I have them at the moment anyway.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:57 pm

Shut up Savage you Blackburn prick

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:57 pm

Mendy's first City goal, Jesus.

Oh sorry, he's yet to score.

To be fair to Savage he usually speaks favourably towards us, I think he's just calling it as it is.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:57 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:57 pm
I have them at the moment anyway.

Your F**ked then

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:58 pm

Bigvince wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:52 pm
He’s playing 3 strikers because JBG not fit enough to start game, J Rod is on the right wing

He started the last game? Is he injured again?

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:59 pm

Sounds as though Tim Sherwood was spot on with his analysis then on SSN saying Burnley players were guilty of "schoolboy errors".

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:59 pm

He's on the bench, how can he be not fit to start?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:59 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm
We're not actually playing 3 strikers as Jay is wide right

True but his natural position is striker & 442 against these lot is as criminal as 433.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:00 pm

Wind behind us on the second half

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:00 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:44 pm
Funny how other teams give them a better game though.

I'll bet Brighton aren't 3-0 down before half time.

That maybe true.

But still likely to have the same points at the end of the game.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:01 pm

Dyched wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm
That’s not the completely the joke. After arguably giving the best forward performance of the season, J Rod pushed out wide to do a make shift job is a bit daft. I’d understand if this was Barnes first game back from an injury but it’s not. He’s been garbage this season and no reason for him playing.

Agreed. Would take Barnes off & give Vydra a run now.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:01 pm

If we have dollars to spend in January, we really need about five players in to walk into the starting line up. It will be very interesting to see what happens.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:01 pm

Can anyone explain to me why we always get hammered at the ETIHAD,,before we even kick off

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:01 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:01 pm
If we have dollars to spend in January, we really need about five players in to walk into the starting line up. It will be very interesting to see what happens.

Well that ain't going to happen. I'd take 2 players.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:02 pm

Let's try and win the 2nd half

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:02 pm

I think this is the worst defensive display I have seen from Burnley in the premier league.

So,so poor. Getting right pelters from the pundits.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:03 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:00 pm
Wind behind us on the second half

Will need divine intervention behind us to get anything out of this!

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:03 pm

Thought we would of made a change

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:03 pm

"Wind behind us in the second half"

Just checked the weather map to see if it's blowing at 100 mph.

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:03 pm

For City’s goals we haven’t done the basic defending which you would be disappointed with if you were managing a team of school boys.
Don’t mark a player off a throw in , don’t run with your markers from midfield, don’t play a basic offside when you are last man and give the ball away cheaply in a dangerous position.

The defending is absolutely appalling a total embarrassment and the worst I can remember ever seeing from Burnley , it’s as if they can’t be bothered to concentrate, think or give 100%.

Totally embarrassing

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:04 pm

As bad as we are and as good as City are they don’t need to be allowed to take a throw in nearly 10 yards forward from where the ball went out. Our defence was being prepared for a throw in much further up the pitch than it was taken...absolute bs that is.

I’ll add to that the nonsense of a clear foul on Wood being given nothing and the ref blowing for a non existent foul when we do put a cross in the box. Absolute bs from the officials.

RMutt · Post by **RMutt** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:04 pm

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm
McNeil passes back because he is 1 footed and players hav sussed him out

I thought similarly. I don't think its that teams have sussed him though. I just feel his inability to use his right foot makes it very difficult for him to distribute the ball effectively in many situations. He can only go one way and often has to go round in a circle to make space for a left footed pass. It's something he needs to work on if he is going to fulfil his fantastic potential.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:04 pm

Barnes shot goes 20yrds wide

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:04 pm

It becomes a stigma. We're afraid of them more than any other top team.
Frail in possession even more than we usually are.
Playing an unfamiliar system.

Credit to Dyche for trying something different and giving Benson a go though. You may as well.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:04 pm

northeastclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:03 pm
For City’s goals we haven’t done the basic defending which you would be disappointed with if you were managing a team of school boys.
Don’t mark a player off a throw in , don’t run with your markers from midfield, don’t play a basic offside when you are last man and give the ball away cheaply in a dangerous position.

The defending is absolutely appalling a total embarrassment and the worst I can remember ever seeing from Burnley , it’s as if they can’t be bothered to concentrate, think or give 100%.

Totally embarrassing

I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.