Mcneil - have we seen enough?

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Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Papabendi » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:47 pm

Just not up to it in his current form. Concerning and not good to see the transformation

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by 1914tyrone » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:49 pm

At fault several times today, just nearly gave another away. Unlucky with the slip. But slack with his distribution

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:49 pm

All them shocking defensive mistakes and you choose to have a go at McNeil?

Pathetic
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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Belial » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:49 pm

He needs a rest. Confidence looks shot

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by BabylonClaret » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:50 pm

He hS been really poor this season. Desperately needs some time to recover his mojo.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by taio » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:50 pm

No need to single him out.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Papabendi » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:51 pm

There is zero attacking threat from him. His first instinct is to go backwards and not lose the ball. Its either coaching or confidence either way its painful to watch.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by jedi_master » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:52 pm

He’s been our only ‘threat’ today digging out three decent crosses even though he has Kyle Walker and two or three others players all over him.

He’s not been at fault today. The first goal was down to a **** pass from Tarkowski, if blame must be apportioned.
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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:52 pm

Aye and let's replace him with all those creative reinforcements we got in the last transfer window.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Zlatan » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:53 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:51 pm
There is zero attacking threat from him. His first instinct is to go backwards and not lose the ball. Its either coaching or confidence either way its painful to watch.
you must be watching a different game, he's been closely marked by one of the most skilful sets of players in the world and he's still managed to beat a few and get crosses in today.
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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Awayfromburnley » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:54 pm

I don't blame him (Dwight) one bit.

It's tactics and coaching. The attacker in him has been nullified by dour tactics, not necessarily today, I mean all season.

We constantly boot the ball up, or Taylor overlaps how.

Dwight needs to be given attacking remit.
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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:54 pm

Strange that out of eleven players you pick out the one who’s been our best.
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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by SGr » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:54 pm

Hell will freeze over before he actually uses his right foot.

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Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm

Have to find a scapegoat
Tarkowski at fault with first with a shocking pass
Taylor with second as he on wrong side of his man who scored easily
Two shocking howlers and not our usual defensive capabilities
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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Spijed » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:57 pm

SGr wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:54 pm
Hell will freeze over before he actually uses his right foot.
What's this obsession with one footed players?

Ryan Giggs was one footed. Didn't work out too badly for him.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by dermotdermot » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:58 pm

I can’t believe what I’m reading! I thought that he was having a good game. Just whipped in two impossible crosses. I’d go as far as to say he was Burnley’s stand out player so far.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by taio » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:58 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:55 pm
Have to find a scapegoat
Tarkowski at fault with first with a shocking pass
Taylor with second as he on wrong side of his man who scored easily
Two shocking howlers and not our usual defensive capabilities
Exactly. Some awful defending and yet someone feels the need to highlight McNeil.
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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:58 pm

Good idea let's drop our only attacking threat and get another grafter in there.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by bodge » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:02 pm

Nothing disingenuous about this thread, just subtle as an air raid and certainly no surprise who the OP is.

Decent enough first half from Dwight.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Conroy92 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:03 pm

Opposition teams have learned to double up and push Dwight onto his right foot. This is why he now ends up going backwards a lot. This should in theory open up other pockets of space on the field.
Unfortunately we always look at the safe sideways pass particularly in the centre of the park and the spaces are closed off before we act. I had hoped Brownhill would help us start moving the ball through the centre of the park a little more but it's not come yet.

Lay off McNeil, he is far from the problem. If people are expecting him to win matches by himself each week, wake up!

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by dermotdermot » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:03 pm

I think that the OP must be having a laugh or just trying to wind people up. Unnecessary and stupid.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Top Claret » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:04 pm

McNeil does frustrate me at times due to him being so left sided, but to be fair he is our only midfielder capable of creating anything special

He is targeted by the opposition because they know he is our only creative player, who can take a man on and deliver a mean cross into the box

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by SGr » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:08 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:57 pm
What's this obsession with one footed players?

Ryan Giggs was one footed. Didn't work out too badly for him.
It’s the fact he keeps rotating on his left and sometimes gets himself in trouble because he just won’t use his right foot. Of course there’s nothing wrong with being one footed, just annoying when that happens.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Conroy92 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:10 pm

SGr wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:08 pm
It’s the fact he keeps rotating on his left and sometimes gets himself in trouble because he just won’t use his right foot. Of course there’s nothing wrong with being one footed, just annoying when that happens.
If he could skin men with both feet United wouldn't have released him.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:10 pm

Arguably been our best player so far.
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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:12 pm

You can imagine everyone's surprise when Papabendi was revealed as the author of this thread.

We all get it. You don't rate him. Getting boring now though.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Zlatan » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:12 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:10 pm
Arguably been our best player so far.
no question the best player for us today, some people believe their own hype...

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by ewanrob » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:14 pm

Young lad in a struggling team, he will be fine

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by jedi_master » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:21 pm

Been our best player second half too. At least he’s getting on the ball and attempting to make us play on the floor.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:23 pm

Leave the lad alone, everybody goes through a bad spell. He's not too bad
today given what he's up against.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by IanMcL » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:23 pm

McNeil is trying very hard to keep possession for us.

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Post by IanMcL » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:24 pm

Pope's longer leg might have saved 2.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by pushpinpussy » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:27 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:47 pm
Just not up to it in his current form. Concerning and not good to see the transformation
we have seen enough of you. now do one and leave this board alone Mr negativity. you are making people depressed
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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by clansman » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:28 pm

He’s been as good as any others. 442 against is just silly. Dyche to blame not mcneil

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by agreenwood » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:30 pm

Yeah. We should play...er....er....er......Pieters...er...instead?

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:31 pm

The OP seems to have developed a bit of an unhealthy obsession with McNeil.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by joey13 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:37 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:58 pm
Exactly. Some awful defending and yet someone feels the need to highlight McNeil.
Maybe because he isn’t interested and deserves to be called out

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Post by taio » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:39 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:37 pm
Maybe because he isn’t interested and deserves to be called out
Bul1shit.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by tim_noone » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:43 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:10 pm
Arguably been our best player so far.
But is he worh £50 million ......

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Post by clansman » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:44 pm

So what about Westwood Barnes and wood how about calling them out.?

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Post by joey13 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:49 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:39 pm
Bul1shit.
Performances and results prove otherwise

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:51 pm

clansman wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:44 pm
So what about Westwood Barnes and wood how about calling them out.?
Woods very poor.....but its definitely the deep defending in this game...Westwood as been mentioned more than any other Burnley player.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Bosscat » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:53 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:51 pm
Woods very poor.....but its definitely the deep defending in this game...Westwood as been mentioned more than any other Burnley player.
ITS WOOD FFS 🙄

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by taio » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:55 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:49 pm
Performances and results prove otherwise
Er no they don't. Performances and results don't prove he's not interested.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:55 pm

McNeil - obviously our man of the match - not seen enough yet

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by tim_noone » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:58 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:53 pm
ITS WOOD FFS 🙄
I know......in the Net!!

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:13 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:47 pm
Just not up to it in his current form. Concerning and not good to see the transformation
Give it a rest. If we had a few other players who can keep the ball down he’d get a bit of a breather, he has a lot of responsibility and has done ever since he broke into the team!

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:39 pm

Didn’t see today’s game but ideally he wouldn’ t have played so many games and would be rested. We have no other options though and that’s the Chairman’s fault not McNeil’s. He’s a young lad making his way and should be encouraged. There are far weaker areas of the team to focus on.

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by warksclaret » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:10 pm

There seems to be an acceptance that its Man City and we are going to get a tonking, but thats OK. Frankly I thought today we were abysmal. We had several 5 minute patches where we showed what is possible. I ask myself, would WBA, Fulham or Sheff Utd have been as poor today. The only player who looked like he could live with them was McNeil. Sadly it showed that we are a very poor team, with some particularly poor players. The goal keeper could have let 8 in-I think he only made one save and then pushed it into his net. Very poor at coming out for through balls. Bardsley must play next game, Lowton has had too many chances and just not a PL full back

Had I been a supporter of a League 1 side and had they played like that I would have been disappointed

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Re: Mcneil - have we seen enough?

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:12 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:51 pm
There is zero attacking threat from him. His first instinct is to go backwards and not lose the ball. Its either coaching or confidence either way its painful to watch.
This is the worst thing. Several times he had the option the cross, and his first reactions are either pass it backwards, or take it towards the corner with zero chance of getting it out. Just cross the fecking thing early!!!!!

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