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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by taio » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:11 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:07 pm
Now we know he's OK, can we talk about what an idiot he is?

Why on earth would you make a move like that with the pack as it was on the third corner, diving across the track at 150mph...

Grosjean has had his share of luck, I suspect it's run out today. Needs to go home and look after his kids and live a long life.
Good point - it did seem a drastic manoeuvre. However there was a suggestion with video coverage from Sky that he was reacting to debris flying off a car in front of him.

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by Dyched » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:12 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:07 pm
Now we know he's OK, can we talk about what an idiot he is?

Why on earth would you make a move like that with the pack as it was on the third corner, diving across the track at 150mph...

Grosjean has had his share of luck, I suspect it's run out today. Needs to go home and look after his kids and live a long life.
I think once they’ve looked at the data for the car, questions will be asked. On sky they showed a piece of debris hitting his tyre just before be turned sharply right. Wether that had an impact on tyre pressure or anything else who knows at this point? It was certainly a strange move if it was just to position himself away from the car that left the track on the left hand side. It was well out of the way.

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:26 pm

Only on uptheclarets could a argument ensue about the angle an F1 car hit the barrier in a life-threatening crash.

A new low :lol: :lol:
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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:37 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:11 pm
Good point - it did seem a drastic manoeuvre. However there was a suggestion with video coverage from Sky that he was reacting to debris flying off a car in front of him.
Im a better driver than Grosjean....on his way out of F1 he is certainly not that good!

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:38 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:26 pm
Only on uptheclarets could a argument ensue about the angle an F1 car hit the barrier in a life-threatening crash.

A new low :lol: :lol:
Why is a debate on the topic of the day a new low....FFS

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:39 pm

Just seen Grosjean in his hospital bed hes ok panic over....side on collision.

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:42 pm

I know this might be an unpopular view, but I think it was a rear-on collision.
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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:51 pm

Actually its a bit of a funny one cos if you look at Sids video link on page 1 you'll see a couple of things

1 It is the front of the car that hits the barriers so in that respect its head on

2 After clipping the other car the momentum / gforce (whatever you call it) is sliding the car down the track sideways as it moves across towards the barrier so the impact is more of a car hitting the barrier at an angle as Zatlan and co have stated

The car is definitely not powering fwd straight into the wall so even though the still at impact looks that way the impact will react more like an angled collision

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:05 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:38 pm
Why is a debate on the topic of the day a new low....FFS
Just a joke mate...

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:05 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:42 pm
I know this might be an unpopular view, but I think it was a rear-on collision.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by PeterWilton » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:16 am

Zlatan wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:07 pm
Clearly not a direct head on, probably even more acute than the 45 degrees I mentioned earlier. It’s clear from the skid marks.

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It's confused a little because the angle of momentum was at an angle to the barrier, but the angle of the car was 90 degrees to the barrier. That's why there's three tyre tracks. The front left and rear right tyre marks overlap each other.

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by Sutton-Claret » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:02 pm

Whatever the angle of impact or how much the Armco has absorbed, the team recorded 53G on impact. That's a hell of figure and he's very lucky not to have been unconscious which would certainly have had a different outcome.

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by PeterWilton » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:11 pm

Sutton-Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:02 pm
Whatever the angle of impact or how much the Armco has absorbed, the team recorded 53G on impact. That's a hell of figure and he's very lucky not to have been unconscious which would certainly have had a different outcome.
Hard agree. Without the HANS device there's a good chance he'd have asphyxiated while unconscious.

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by Caballo » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:37 pm

Without the Hans I doubt suffocation would have been a concern.

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by exilecanada » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:24 pm

PeterWilton wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:11 pm
Hard agree. Without the HANS device there's a good chance he'd have asphyxiated while unconscious.
If memory serves, the HANS Device was first used in NASCAR. If so, it's the only good to come out of the 'good ole boys' circus.

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:25 pm

Reports suggesting Grosjean could be back for the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix in 2 weeks - don't do it mate

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:35 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:25 pm
Reports suggesting Grosjean could be back for the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix in 2 weeks - don't do it mate
It’d take some serious balls to jump back behind the wheel of an F1 car 2 weeks after that. I hope he makes the final race though. Would be a shame to end his career like that.

Would bring a whole new meaning to going out in a ball of flames though....

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Re: Bahrain Grand Prix

Post by tarkys_ears » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:02 pm

Not a chance he'll be back
Especially not with broken ribs

Someone selling clickbait there

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