U18's v Liverpool (a)

[Leisure]

Losing 3 nil after 47 mins.

[Leisure]

4 nil after 88mins.

[Leisure]

Finished 4 - 1.

[randomclaret2]

Cheers Leisure

[tiger76]

Well! at least the lads got a goal, I'd wager along with Chelsea & United Liverpool have one of the best academies in the country, so it's no disgrace to lose heavily to them, results such as this were always more likely due to the leap in class, the main aspect of our youth system is that the players develop either into contenders for a first team berth, or they can at least be sold onto FL clubs and generate income that way.

[superdimitri]

Does anyone know a way to find the lineups for our fa youth cup defeat there in 96-97 2-5 ?

[MACCA]

Does anyone know a way to find the lineups for our fa youth cup defeat there in 96-97 2-5 ?

I'd like to know too, as I went due to my cousin or some relative a long the line being in the Burnley squad.
We sat in the main stand, but I cannot remember anything about the game.

[superdimitri]

I'd like to know too, as I went due to my cousin or some relative a long the line being in the Burnley squad.
We sat in the main stand, but I cannot remember anything about the game.

You must be a similar age to me. I went with my dad and don't remember much apart from being thrashed.

I thought for some time Michael Owen was in their team and seemed to remember him scoring a brace but after looking up online he was already playing for the senior team that season so it may not be him. According to sources I can find It was the previous year he was playing in the youth team as it that was the year liverpool won the FA youth cup.

Also wondered if Gerrard or Carragher was in the team that beat us.

[Buxtonclaret]

Does anyone know a way to find the lineups for our fa youth cup defeat there in 96-97 2-5 ?

Reckon CT will have that info somewhere in his vast archives?
You could ask him, if he doesn't see this thread?

He'll, he might even know what the had for breakfast that day!

[ClaretTony]

Reckon CT will have that info somewhere in his vast archives?
You could ask him, if he doesn't see this thread?

He'll, he might even know what the had for breakfast that day!

I've seen it but I don't have any details at all unfortunately other than I've confirmed that the 1996/97 season is correct. I seem to recall that Michael Owen was in the Liverpool team and that it was played on a Saturday. Does anyone have a date for the game?

[Leisure]

And Carragher.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Does anyone know a way to find the lineups for our fa youth cup defeat there in 96-97 2-5 ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Liverpool-v- ... SwHr9dh2wt

[ClaretTony]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Liverpool-v- ... SwHr9dh2wt

Good find claretonthecoast1882 - I looked all over for a team sheet and even went on ebay - I got Owen right but didn't recall Gerrard playing. There's only one player on the Burnley list I don't recognise, that's Adam Gray. I note that Killa Mawson was on the bench, now he's alongside OGS and Micky Phelan on the Man U bench.

[MACCA]

My mince pies ( keeping it seasonal ) are bad, can anyone see re write the Byrnley team for me please?

[wilks_bfc]

My mince pies ( keeping it seasonal ) are bad, can anyone see re write the Byrnley team for me please?

Danny O,Leary
Lee Pennington
Jason Heffernan
Chris Scott
Matthew Heywood
Adam Gray
Carl Smith
Paul Graham
Colin Carr-Lawton
David Henry
Michael Devenney

Richard Fogarty
Craig Mawson
Bradley Pates

[ClaretTony]

And the Liverpool team was

Roy Naylor
Neil Murphy
Danny Williams
Stephen Wright
Sean Hessey
Nicky Rizzo
Andy Parkinson
Stephen Gerrard
Michael Owen
John Newby
Sean Friars

Subs
Terry Burghall
Ian Dunbavin
Matthew Cass

[Marney&Mee]

fair to say only 2 of the 28 on show that day really made a good professional career out of playing football ? or have I missed any

[Leisure]

And the Liverpool team was

Roy Naylor
Neil Murphy
Danny Williams
Stephen Wright
Sean Hessey
Nicky Rizzo
Andy Parkinson
Stephen Gerrard
Michael Owen
John Newby
Sean Friars

Subs
Terry Burghall
Ian Dunbavin
Matthew Cass

So Carragher didn't play? He was in the Final team.

[ClaretTony]

So Carragher didn't play? He was in the Final team.

Carragher was too old to be in a youth team that season and Liverpool didn't reach the final.

[Leisure]

Carragher was too old to be in a youth team that season and Liverpool didn't reach the final.

Yes, I was looking at the 95/96 season. When he was in the team and they won it.

[ClaretTony]

Yes, I was looking at the 95/96 season. When he was in the team and they won it.

The only player I could remember playing was Owen to be honest, I'd never considered Carragher or even Gerrard.

[Ashingtonclaret46]

Andy Parkinson made a career in the game and is still involved as a coach, although he never went to any great heights and played mainly in the lower divisions.

Also just noticed one of the Livepool subs was Ian Dunbavin who spent time at Shrewsbury and ended up at Accrington Stanley until the end of the 2013/4 season.

[ClaretTony]

Andy Parkinson made a career in the game and is still involved as a coach, although he never went to any great heights and played mainly in the lower divisions.

Parkinson was in the Tranmere team we played in 2000/01 after our promotion. John Newby played at Bury for a number of years and Stephen Wright had a good career, mainly at Sunderland and Coventry. I think there are two others in that Liverpool team who might have made a name for themselves.

Of the Burnley team then you'd say Matt Heywood is the only one who had a career in the game.

[Ashingtonclaret46]

Parkinson was in the Tranmere team we played in 2000/01 after our promotion. John Newby played at Bury for a number of years and Stephen Wright had a good career, mainly at Sunderland and Coventry. I think there are two others in that Liverpool team who might have made a name for themselves.

Of the Burnley team then you'd say Matt Heywood is the only one who had a career in the game.

Nick Rizzo was an Australian who played in the PL for Crystal Palace and spent time with MK Dons before returning to Australia.

[Buxtonclaret]

Think Brian Flynn had that Danny Williams in the Liverpool side at Wrexham .

[MACCA]

I recognise a few of the liverpool names off champ msnager 00, think a few had a decent career.
Dont think any of the Burnley lads did in terms of playing.

[MACCA]

Danny O,Leary
Lee Pennington
Jason Heffernan
Chris Scott
Matthew Heywood
Adam Gray
Carl Smith
Paul Graham
Colin Carr-Lawton
David Henry
Michael Devenney

Richard Fogarty
Craig Mawson
Bradley Pates

Thank you, we went to watch Jason Heffernan.

[Hapag Lloyd]

Andy Parkinson made a career in the game and is still involved as a coach, although he never went to any great heights and played mainly in the lower divisions.

Also just noticed one of the Livepool subs was Ian Dunbavin who spent time at Shrewsbury and ended up at Accrington Stanley until the end of the 2013/4 season.

Sean Hessey was another who played a good number of games for Stanley.

[boatshed bill]

Am i right, i think Stan shipped Carl Smith and Colin Carr-Lawton off to somewhere like Greece?

[ClaretTony]

Am i right, i think Stan shipped Carl Smith and Colin Carr-Lawton off to somewhere like Greece?

He did - was it a loan?

[boatshed bill]

He did - was it a loan?

I don't know.
Did they ever come back?
The only reason I remember it is because I used to do that phone thing (Club Line?) and you'd get Stan on there.

[ClaretTony]

I don't know.
Did they ever come back?
The only reason I remember it is because I used to do that phone thing (Club Line?) and you'd get Stan on there.

They'd both played their last games for us by the end of 1998, Smith at Macclesfield in October and Carr-Lawton in the Sherpa (or whatever it was called then) against Preston in December.

[rufus lumley]

I think club line was called club line it was once a mult million pound buisness .I once phoned it thinking I could get live match commentry but got a load of waffle.

[boatshed bill]

I think club line was called club line it was once a mult million pound buisness .I once phoned it thinking I could get live match commentry but got a load of waffle.

Yes, there was plenty of that.
Actually, was it called "Club Call"?
I used to phone it when I was living on a boat and had no telly. I loved the Stan Ternent era, waffle and all.

[wilks_bfc]

There was TeamTalk as well, as a pre-internet source of club news

[ClaretTony]

It was Club Call. I think Pete Smith did it. He’s now on Sky on match days reporting from one of the grounds.

[superdimitri]

Wow thanks for finding that! Don't know the scorers but I'm glad my memory was right about Owen.
Knowing his youth record wouldn't be surprised if he scored all 5.

[Rouwens_Weapon]

Slightly off topic, but this got me reminiscing.

Burnley played Gremio in a friendly in 1997. I was only young but i remember there being a bit of hype about one of their players and i'm wondering if it could have been Ronaldinho? 1997/98 was his first season in professional football.

[Burnley1989]

I remember the game as well as I think it was the first time I’d sat in the James Hargreaves stand, nice warm evening game I think, I was only 8!so could be mistaken.

Pretty sure the team we played wasn’t the correct Gremio though, something daft like that?

[wilks_bfc]

Slightly off topic, but this got me reminiscing.

Burnley played Gremio in a friendly in 1997. I was only young but i remember there being a bit of hype about one of their players and i'm wondering if it could have been Ronaldinho? 1997/98 was his first season in professional football.

It wasn’t the Gremio though. It was another team from Brazil with same name

[EarbyClaret]

Was it Gremio where their players were taking selfies on the pitch during the warm-up - remember there was something strange about that game not sure if that was it

[Burnley1989]

Was it Gremio where their players were taking selfies on the pitch during the warm-up - remember there was something strange about that game not sure if that was it

No camera phones back then though I’d imagine.

[Rouwens_Weapon]

Taken from the Lancashire Telegraph.. it looks like wires may have been crossed as when i look at the picture of the programme, i can see the team is Grêmio Esportivo Brasil, also known as Brasil de Pelotas. They play in Brazil's second tier!



BURNLEY will face the boys from Brazil as part of a glamorous pre-season build up at Turf Moor.

Brazilian giants Gremio will visit Turf Moor on Thursday, July 31 - two days before First Division Manchester City.

Although there is no official confirmation, the prestige fixture could be used to mark the official opening of the new Turf Moor stands.

Manager Adrian Heath said: "We've worked really hard to get Gremio to play in this game and I'm sure all our fans will look forward to the match.

"Any side from Brazil at the top level always has players with wonderful skill and to see that on show at Turf Moor will be something very special.

"They have several big names in their team and it will be marvellous to welcome them here. There should be a big crowd at Turf Moor."

Burnley also had discussions with Dutch team Feyenoord but with Gremio on tour in England, the date was ideal for the Clarets.

Burnley's pre-season schedule is now falling into place nicely with a week in Northern Ireland already confirmed from July 19-26 when the Clarets will play four games in the province.

The Nationwide League season kicks-off on Saturday, August 9.

[ClaretTony]

Gremio - billed as Copa Brasil Champions on the front of the programme but it wasn't them.

[wilks_bfc]

Why does the LET article say "Manager Adrian Heath said...." and there is a picture of Waddle on the programme?


Edit: Just realised the article would have been before Heath left

[ClaretTony]

Why does the LET article say "Manager Adrian Heath said...." and there is a picture of Waddle on the programme?

Because Heath was here when the friendly was set up but had gone when it was played.

[wilks_bfc]

Because Heath was here when the friendly was set up but had gone when it was played.

Yep realised that just after I posted.

Thought the article was "pre-match" as in the week before

[ClaretTony]

Yep realised that just after I posted.

Thought the article was "pre-match" as in the week before

He'd set up the entire pre-season before leaving - including the trip to Northern Ireland with four games in a week that Waddle didn't want but couldn't cancel.

[Marney&Mee]

Thwaites lager. I bet that was nice

[Marney&Mee]

obviously didn't catch on. Should have been the dream drink for many. What happened to it ?