Lingard anyone ?

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by Dyched » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:55 pm

People are better off learning about his private life and his recent struggles before being overly critical.

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:56 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:48 pm
Lingard has the skills, I don't think anyone on here is denying that, the big concern for me is would he have the stomach for a relegation scrap, because if he joined us that's what he'd be facing, certainly this season anyway, and having played the majority of his career at a team that expect to win trophies and compete near the top of the league, a survival battle would require a different mentality.

Look ultimately the decision is Sean's, and if he thinks Lingard could add that extra quality to perhaps turn the draws into wins, then who are we to doubt him, I still think it's a moot point anyhow as I can't see Lingard rocking up at the turf anytime soon.

The assets he could bring are he can play left or right, but if we signed him on loan will Sean play him?, our track record on loans isn't brilliant recently especially with wingers, and the last thing we want is a bench warmer earning big bucks, we had that when Hart was here in his last season.
I dont really agree with most of what you say but thats fine its your opinion and Im not convinced Lingard would do the business and not that bothered cos my point was nothing to do with what you are talking about

I was just criticising this '"not a Dyche type player" mentality some of our fans have cos it is very negative, defeatist and doesnt give Dyche the credit he deserves.

Now feel free to agree or disagree on this but in the politest way if your point is more about Lingards ability then we are talking about different things so why we are quoting each other I dont really know :)

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by Top Claret » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:07 pm

I don't no why anyone is speculating over any future transfer activities whilst we have the present lot in charge

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by Sheedyclaret » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:31 pm

Be many clubs in front of us if he did come available not a chance..

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by NewClaret » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:17 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:07 pm
I don't no why anyone is speculating over any future transfer activities whilst we have the present lot in charge
Yep, think we need a takeover before talking about signings!

I'd take him on loan. I'm not a fan of his social media antics, but he certainly has a personality and is hard working. If he were prepared to come here and knuckle down for second half of the season, I'd take him.

Agree with others that there will be much bigger clubs in for him so no chance really. Our only hope is that he wouldn't want to move, but suspect the London lifestyle is very appealing to him.

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:30 pm

If he can play more than one game in a row he’ll be better than our other options on the right, I’d put Brady back on the left get him used to his favourite position again.

I see Man U after tripps, if there’s any chance we should be straight onto him about coming back would be a big boost
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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:36 pm

A player who failed to fulfil his potential.

18 PL goals, 10 assists in 133 appearances.

Dwight has more assists in just half the appearances.

We don't create enough as it is and Lingard would have to work damned hard to improve and up his game wherever he ends up.
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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by MrTopTier » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:46 pm

Think he’s on a 100k a week, Arsenal or West Ham, not Burnley. Good player when he was on it, a couple of years since he’s been anywhere near that level though.

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by Nonayforever » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:48 pm

I'd have him like a shot i we got the chance. Having said that, we would have to change to a completely different system.
Alongside Cork and McNeil with Jay up front he would fit in. With wood and Barnes up front he wouldn't see the ball.

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:51 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:19 pm
28 next week - he's gone beyond the potential stage now
And the same age or younger than over half of our current first team squad 8-)

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:05 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:29 pm
Done nothing in the game :lol: :lol:

This place is getting stranger by the day.
Still waiting :lol:

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by timshorts » Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:31 pm

MrTopTier wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:46 pm
Think he’s on a 100k a week, Arsenal or West Ham, not Burnley. Good player when he was on it, a couple of years since he’s been anywhere near that level though.
West ham are more likely to ask for pogba on loan for 5 years while only paying 20% of his market salary
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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:07 pm

Forget whether it is Lingard or not, is a short term loan for any player on £100k so out of our depth ?

A Jan loan for any such player would cost us around £2m - and yes there could be a fee but surely for 5 months not that much, unless we are dealing with Liverpool ;)

Dale Stephens cost around £1m plus two year's wages on say £30k per week gives a total spend of circa £4m - nothing personal but just using the guy as an example, given he was our record signing this summer

Which would look like better value to help keep us up this season

Would the rest of the squad be so upset if it gave us a better chance of staying up and they can then stay on their current good deals

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:35 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:05 pm
Still waiting :lol:
As I posted at 3.50pm today....... 200 plus appearances for Man United, 24 England Caps including World Cup appearances and goals, won Uefa Cup, Fa Cup and League Cup, (scoring in two of the finals one of them being a winner).

Think that covers it. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:52 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:35 pm
As I posted at 3.50pm today....... 200 plus appearances for Man United, 24 England Caps including World Cup appearances and goals, won Uefa Cup, Fa Cup and League Cup, (scoring in two of the finals one of them being a winner).

Think that covers it. :lol: :lol:
I'll carry on your love fest for this overrated showpony
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....

28 years old should be in his prime instead hes rotting in the background at Man - Utd,probably earning £90,000 a week,but hes content hes had a great career 😂....overrated showpony!

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by claret_in_exile » Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:27 pm

We're not seriously thinking this is possible, are we?

Bloody hell, it will be a cold day in hell before Lingard signs for us. He's only entertaining the move to Real Sociedad because they're 2nd in La Liga. There's 0% chance he'll want to drop down to our level.

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:12 am

claret_in_exile wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:27 pm
We're not seriously thinking this is possible, are we?

Bloody hell, it will be a cold day in hell before Lingard signs for us. He's only entertaining the move to Real Sociedad because they're 2nd in La Liga. There's 0% chance he'll want to drop down to our level.
Our level, OUR LEVEL? How dare you.

He’s done nothing and can’t even displace Bruno Fernandes in a crap United team.

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:16 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:52 pm
I'll carry on your love fest for this overrated showpony
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28 years old should be in his prime instead hes rotting in the background at Man - Utd,probably earning £90,000 a week,but hes content hes had a great career 😂....overrated showpony!
No love fest from me, don’t like him as an individual but find suggestions he’s ’not made it’, ‘done nothing’ and he’d not be good enough for us laughable.

They are based purely on his profile as opposed to looking objectively at what he has actually done in his career to date.

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:19 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:52 pm
I'll carry on your love fest for this overrated showpony
...
....

28 years old should be in his prime instead hes rotting in the background at Man - Utd,probably earning £90,000 a week,but hes content hes had a great career 😂....overrated showpony!
Hypothetical question, but if Lingard did sign for us who would keep him out of the team ?

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Re: Lingard anyone ?

Post by willsclarets » Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:29 am

I do wonder sometimes how this honesty from Sean Dyche manifests itself. I don't doubt it's true, but sometimes the conversation must go something like "You're trying really hard to improve, but the truth is you won't get a game unless X player gets shot in the leg"

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