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Leeds vs Hammers

Post by tiger76 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:37 pm

I wasn't aware but Bielsa apparently named his team on Wednesday, will that prove a masterstroke or a mistake?

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:41 pm

Come on West Ham
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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by tiger76 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:48 pm

Interestingly for all the talk about how well Leeds have done on their PL return, they only have 1 home win to their name, so the Hammers have every chance of a result tonight.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:54 pm

Their defence is certainly suspect. They don't like teams hunting them down either, which is why I really do hope we get at them when we play them on the 27th. Press! Press! Press!
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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by taio » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:02 pm

Pen Leeds

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by taio » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:03 pm

Terrible penalty

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:04 pm

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Rowls » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:04 pm

Thought the ref was about to book Bamford for diving but, no, it's a "penalty".

One of the worst aspects of modern football.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Rowls » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:04 pm

Hahaha - saved!

Justice!

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Rowls » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:05 pm

Oh for Pete's sake they're making it be taken again.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by taio » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:05 pm

He was 1mm off his line

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:07 pm

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Leisure » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:07 pm

How was it not a red???

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Claretincraven » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:08 pm

Looks like Bielsa is on VAR as well.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by taio » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:08 pm

Leisure wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:07 pm
How was it not a red???
Can't be both

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Spijed » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:09 pm

Why isn't every penalty retaken, considering no goalkeeper stays on their line?

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Leisure » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:11 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:08 pm
Can't be both
Surely it should have been a straight red.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by taio » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:11 pm

Leisure wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:11 pm
Surely it should have been a straight red.
Not if awarding a pen.
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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by tiger76 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:13 pm

Klich is a lucky boy getting a second bite at the cherry, horrendous penalty first time, the ref spared his blushes there.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Leisure » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:15 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:11 pm
Not if awarding a pen.
So not much chance of a keeper ever getting a red card then!

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:17 pm

I thought it was still a red card if there’s no attempt to play the ball?

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by taio » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:17 pm

Leisure wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:15 pm
So not much chance of a keeper ever getting a red card then!
Depends on the situation. Pickford should've been sent off for his ridiculous challenge on VVD.
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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by dougcollins » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:19 pm

Isn't it the 'double jeopardy' ruling?

Can't have a pen and a red for the same incident. So long as it's 'accidental', of course.
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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by taio » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:19 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:17 pm
I thought it was still a red card if there’s no attempt to play the ball?
He attempted to play the ball. Was just late. Penalty and yellow card right decision.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:22 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:19 pm
He attempted to play the ball. Was just late. Penalty and yellow card right decision.
I wasn’t watching the game so not claiming he tried to play the ball. I was just clarifying that my understanding of the rule was that if a penalty is given, a player will only be sent off if there was no attempt to play the ball, or in the case of dangerous play.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by taio » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:23 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:22 pm
I wasn’t watching the game so not claiming he tried to play the ball. I was just clarifying that my understanding of the rule was that if a penalty is given, a player will only be sent off if there was no attempt to play the ball, or in the case of dangerous play.
Yes a deliberate foul would mean penalty, red card and suspension.
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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by taio » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:24 pm

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:24 pm

Soucek, equaliser

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:25 pm

Dodgy keeper

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:26 pm

Leeds just can't defend set pieces

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by dpinsussex » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:26 pm

OK to explain the laws of the game.

Double jeopardy only applies in a Denying an obvious goal scoring.opportunity. (DOGSO)

The goal keeper came out to make a genuine attempt to play the ball however, quick feet of the striker made that impossible and thusninvited the keeper to bring him down.
The punishment has to be penalty yellow card.

Another scenario. Striker has control of the ball in the area and gone past the keeper he then pulls the striker back lets say around the waist. This isn't an attempt to play the ball and therefore penalty red card.

Defenders - if upper body offence then not a genuine attempt to play the ball therefore red card and penalty. If he tries to make a tackle and is deemed to be a genuine attempt then pen yellow is the decision.
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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:27 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:26 pm
Leeds just can't defend set pieces
Leeds just cant defend

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:30 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:25 pm
Dodgy keeper
Gets found out every game,although he is inexperienced...he only looks about 14,we should terrorize him when we play them...and we will

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:31 pm

Leeds are a shambles defensively. West ham look like they're going to score everytime they go forward

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by tiger76 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:32 pm

Soucek is a real threat at set pieces, but what on earth was the keeper doing there hopeless.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by dpinsussex » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:49 pm

Looking forward to the clarets playing either these two.
Pace in behind for West ham. Start Vydra?
Sit tight counter and win set pieces against Leeds.

6 points lads and ladies 🀣🀣

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:52 pm

dpinsussex wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:49 pm
Looking forward to the clarets playing either these two.
Pace in behind for West ham. Start Vydra?
Sit tight counter and win set pieces against Leeds.

6 points lads and ladies 🀣🀣
Start Vydra? Come on buddy stop dreaming πŸ˜‰
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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by dpinsussex » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:55 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:52 pm
Start Vydra? Come on buddy stop dreaming πŸ˜‰
Lol I know but he is most.likely to open up behind the wham back line. We all know it won't happen
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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by taio » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:38 pm

WH take the lead...deservedly

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:38 pm

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:39 pm

Leeds cant defend 😊

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:39 pm

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:39 pm

West Ham have got their head to every set piece. A big weakness of Leeds.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by dougcollins » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:39 pm

Been coming.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by tiger76 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:43 pm

Is this the Leeds bubble bursting? they certainly can't defend crosses that's for sure.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Spijed » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:48 pm

If it stays like this we will be eight points behind with two games in hand.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by LeadBelly » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:50 pm

Had a wee bet on 1-2 in this at 12/1. Chickened out a few minutes after the 2nd WHU goal and cashed it in at equivalent of 9/1 though. Decent win and avoids the disappointment of another goal.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:52 pm

Nice start to the weekend. Let’s hope we get a good end to it.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:53 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:37 pm
I wasn't aware but Bielsa apparently named his team on Wednesday, will that prove a masterstroke or a mistake?
Mistake.

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Re: Leeds vs Hammers

Post by box_of_frogs » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:54 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:48 pm
If it stays like this we will be eight points behind with two games in hand.
Think I’d rather have the points on the board.

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