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Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by TopCat » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:34 am

So typical Burnley.
Would rather use a recent 4th and 5th choice CH rather than an ex England international.
The only issue for me would be Jones’s fitness.
A loan to a permanent deal would be good.
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Post by Giftonsnoidea » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:39 am

File in the Joe Hart draw and hope we have someone decent up and coming lined up

When was the last time he actually played a game?

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by randomclaret2 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:45 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:20 am
Phil Jones has shown nothing over the last 3 seasons, to suggest he would do a job for us.
It would be a massive gamble, one that MIGHT pay off, but BFC isn't in a position to take gambles on players. Not for what PJ would cost, and or want in wages. I just think Utd's defence is awful, and he can't get in it.
With Long, Dunne and Thomas showing promise, and all already on the books, we don't need a centre half, unless they are guaranteed to be of a quality to replace Tarks. Heaven forbid.
How can a 30 year old who has been with us for 11 years be " showing promise " ?

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:48 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:20 am
Phil Jones has shown nothing over the last 3 seasons, to suggest he would do a job for us.
It would be a massive gamble, one that MIGHT pay off, but BFC isn't in a position to take gambles on players. Not for what PJ would cost, and or want in wages. I just think Utd's defence is awful, and he can't get in it.
With Long, Dunne and Thomas showing promise, and all already on the books, we don't need a centre half, unless they are guaranteed to be of a quality to replace Tarks. Heaven forbid.
You must have been watching a different Kevin Long to me this last 10 years. And not sure what Jimmy Dunne has done to suggest he's good enough to step up and play in the Prem? He didn't pull up any trees on loan in league 1.
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Post by jrgbfc » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:51 am

Leicester have told Demerai Gray he's free to move on. Worth a shout? He's still got time on his side and there's obviously a player in there somewhere.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:55 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:00 am
Why do some people think Kevin Long and Jimmy Dunne are better than a guy who has 27 England caps and is still only 28? Its bizarre.
And has a body of confetti. File under JBG or Brady.
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Post by TopCat » Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:49 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:51 am
Leicester have told Demerai Gray he's free to move on. Worth a shout? He's still got time on his side and there's obviously a player in there somewhere.
Would be a good move, IMO.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:56 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:04 am
I would sooner see Dyche play center half than Jones hes a complete busted flush and like someone just mentioned a former bastardo......no no no
You must have been distraught then when David Jones & Michael Keane were playing for us. I don't know how long you've been going on the Turf but if it was in the 1970s it must have been painful for you having to watch Keith Newton.
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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Grumps » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:56 am
You must have been distraught then when David Jones & Michael Keane were playing for us. I don't know how long you've been going on the Turf but if it was in the 1970s it must have been painful for you having to watch Keith Newton.
.... Andy Cole.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:02 pm

Andy Todd another that was excellent for us.

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Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:40 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:01 pm
.... Andy Cole.
arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:02 pm
Andy Todd another that was excellent for us.
I was going to throw a few names in but thought I'd stick with the two recent ones from the Dyche era (I didn't mention Paul Robinson or Steven Reid) and then added Keith Newton, simply because he was a wonderful player. There's players such as Lenny Johnrose and Kevin Hird too.

To be honest, I don't give a damn who anyone has played for previously once they have signed for us.

I'd like another Newton though. :D
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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Stayingup » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:44 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:59 am
Hell always be a Bastado...but he could be our Bastado?
Remember Keith Newton? That worked out well.
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Post by Grumps » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:40 pm
I was going to throw a few names in but thought I'd stick with the two recent ones from the Dyche era (I didn't mention Paul Robinson or Steven Reid) and then added Keith Newton, simply because he was a wonderful player. There's players such as Lenny Johnrose and Kevin Hird too.

To be honest, I don't give a damn who anyone has played for previously once they have signed for us.

I'd like another Newton though. :D
100% correct...

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Post by Shipclaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:53 pm

CT - you added some gravity with your comments ...ahem

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:58 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:51 am
Leicester have told Demerai Gray he's free to move on. Worth a shout? He's still got time on his side and there's obviously a player in there somewhere.
Most certainly, but I'd be shocked if he came here as there will be 2-3 other clubs ahead of us.

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Post by Hapag Lloyd » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:09 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:58 pm
Most certainly, but I'd be shocked if he came here as there will be 2-3 other clubs ahead of us.
Tarkowski swap deal ?

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:56 am
You must have been distraught then when David Jones & Michael Keane were playing for us. I don't know how long you've been going on the Turf but if it was in the 1970s it must have been painful for you having to watch Keith Newton.
Aye.....the best value we have had out of them was one of my favourite ever Clarets was Kevin Hird so it's not all bad,and yes I was going on the Turf in the KN days

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:53 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:31 am
Kevin Long is 30 years old. He’s never been a regular. He has never been good enough and never will be good enough.

A fit Phil Jones, in our ystem, would be an excellent addition. As I said yesterday, if Ben Mee can be comfortable in our system I’m certain Phil Jones can.
We know what Kevin Long offers, we don't know what Phil Jones offers, only what we hope he offers. It has been a long time since he played regularly, or consistently. As I said he would be a gamble, and gambling isn't good for the club.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:59 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:48 am
You must have been watching a different Kevin Long to me this last 10 years. And not sure what Jimmy Dunne has done to suggest he's good enough to step up and play in the Prem? He didn't pull up any trees on loan in league 1.
I can understand the doubts over Jimmy Dunne, but the club and SD, obviously see something in him. With Phil Jones lack of game time, and iffy performances when he does play, there's nothing to suggest he could step up anymore than Dunne, only Dunne isn't going to take a chunk of any transfer kitty.

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:05 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:51 am
Leicester have told Demerai Gray he's free to move on. Worth a shout? He's still got time on his side and there's obviously a player in there somewhere.
Recently reported to be linked with Spurs

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by TopCat » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:47 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:53 pm
We know what Kevin Long offers, we don't know what Phil Jones offers, only what we hope he offers. It has been a long time since he played regularly, or consistently. As I said he would be a gamble, and gambling isn't good for the club.
Yes, we know what Kevin Long offers, but nothing more than cover as our 4th CB.

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Re: Phil Jones

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:55 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:59 pm
I can understand the doubts over Jimmy Dunne, but the club and SD, obviously see something in him. With Phil Jones lack of game time, and iffy performances when he does play, there's nothing to suggest he could step up anymore than Dunne, only Dunne isn't going to take a chunk of any transfer kitty.
Yes but it must be Sean Dyche that wants to sign Jones and he will know what Long and Dunne offer.

As I’ve said before playing for Man United in their system and playing for us in ours are totally different. I think people sometimes forget that.

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Post by jrgbfc » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:55 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:05 pm
Recently reported to be linked with Spurs
Its still worth a try. How much action is he going to see at Spurs? He doesn't strike me as a Mourinho type player at all and we always play 442 which greatly improves his chances of playing.

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Post by clarethomer » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:20 pm

I think we certainly need the right hand side of our team strengthening.

Doubt it would happen but Tripps and Gray would be fantastic.

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:47 pm

Nothing against him, but if Phil jones is seen as softening the blow of losing James Tarkowski it certainly doesn't work for me.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:00 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:55 pm
Its still worth a try. How much action is he going to see at Spurs? He doesn't strike me as a Mourinho type player at all and we always play 442 which greatly improves his chances of playing.
I don't think he's a Dyche type player either.

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:45 pm

Bring in Jones regardless of Tark’s situation. A Dyche fit Jones could add the much-needed beef to our midfield that we have wanted for so long. Obviously also quality cover for centre defence and right wing-back.

Jones is a confidence player and he is the boo-boy’s favourite target at OT, which has had a massive effect on his game.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:47 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:45 pm
Bring in Jones regardless of Tark’s situation. A Dyche fit Jones could add the much-needed beef to our midfield that we have wanted for so long. Obviously also quality cover for centre defence and right wing-back.

Jones is a confidence player and he is the boo-boy’s favourite target at OT, which has had a massive effect on his game.
Jones as a central midfielder over who??

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:54 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:47 pm
Jones as a central midfielder over who??
Cork, Westwood or Brownhill who are all too easily knocked off the ball.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:57 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:47 pm
Jones as a central midfielder over who??
He’d only be behind Westwood, Cork, Stephens, Brownhill & Benson.
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Post by Local cricketer » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:00 pm

I’m loving some people thinking that Kevin Long (league 1 level) is a better option than Phil Jones with god knows how many England caps
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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:57 pm
He’d only be behind Westwood, Cork, Stephens, Brownhill & Benson.
Exactly. In the defensive mid-field role, where he’s played at all his clubs and at international level.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:05 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:54 pm
Cork, Westwood or Brownhill who are all too easily knocked off the ball.
Ok so we are going to sign a centre half and play him as a midfielder or right wing back! Cork and Westwood have managed to be part of two top ten finishes so they can’t be knocked off the ball as much as you think. Brownhill has already shown in the short time with us he is an excellent midfielder.

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:21 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:05 pm
Ok so we are going to sign a centre half and play him as a midfielder or right wing back! Cork and Westwood have managed to be part of two top ten finishes so they can’t be knocked off the ball as much as you think. Brownhill has already shown in the short time with us he is an excellent midfielder.
Not exactly. He is a versatile player who could of course play as a centre half but could (according to the opposition) also move into a defensive mid-field role, which would give licence to the other mid players to support the attack by being more creative further upfield. In short a plan B and a different sort of attack and goal threat.

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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:24 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:54 pm
Cork, Westwood or Brownhill who are all too easily knocked off the ball.
Could we bring Edgar out of retirement?
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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:26 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:54 pm
Cork, Westwood or Brownhill who are all too easily knocked off the ball.
Never mind, it's not as if they often have the ball

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:26 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:24 pm
Could we bring Edgar out of retirement?
Ho,ho, ho.

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Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:31 pm

No can argue with facts:

Tarks is an average premier league defender. He can’t play in a system that moves the defensive line 15m up the pitch. As most top 6/10 teams play. He’s too slow, static in his body, and in his shapes.

He’d be great in a three, he’s outstanding in our system, but only because of the system.
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Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:32 pm

I predict this being yet another generally pointless transfer thread.

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Post by jrgbfc » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:36 pm

A fit Phil Jones would be better in midfield than any of our current options. Fergie played him there for United plenty of times.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:39 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:26 pm
Ho,ho, ho.
People mock. But then probably forget how brilliant Alexander was when converted into that role. When Ben Mee was converted from a left back to centre half. And plenty of similar examples.

Jones only issue (and its a big one) is fitness.

Ability wise he is easily good enough.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:42 pm

Maybe we should try him up front as well.

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Post by EarbyClaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:43 pm

It's only the fact that Jones has had injury problems that makes him a potential target for a club like us - that's where we are in the PL food-chain

If he's not fit or there's no prospect of him being fit then it won't happen

On the assumption that he is/will be then we should definitely be interested in a player of his quality as both CB and RB - especially if it means we can get maximum value from selling Tarkowski - if West Ham or Leicester ae still interested then there's a deal to be done.

As far as we as a club a concerned the difference between a player who fulfils his professional obligation to do the job to the best of his ability and a player who whole-heartedly buys into the cause is the difference between relegation an survival and that's like it feels where we are with Tarkowski - nothing personal, he's looking after his best interests that's the way it is

If a fit Jones is available then we should be interested - for those who would prefer we see out the season with one or both of Dunne and Long then with all due respect to them we will almost certainly be relegated

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:46 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:39 pm
People mock. But then probably forget how brilliant Alexander was when converted into that role. When Ben Mee was converted from a left back to centre half. And plenty of similar examples.

Jones only issue (and its a big one) is fitness.

Ability wise he is easily good enough.
Too quick, you haven’t read it through - I was only mocking the thought of “bringing Edgar out of retirement”.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:46 pm

EarbyClaret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:43 pm
It's only the fact that Jones has had injury problems that makes him a potential target for a club like us - that's where we are in the PL food-chain

If he's not fit or there's no prospect of him being fit then it won't happen

On the assumption that he is/will be then we should definitely be interested in a player of his quality as both CB and RB - especially if it means we can get maximum value from selling Tarkowski - if West Ham or Leicester ae still interested then there's a deal to be done.

As far as we as a club a concerned the difference between a player who fulfils his professional obligation to do the job to the best of his ability and a player who whole-heartedly buys into the cause is the difference between relegation an survival and that's like it feels where we are with Tarkowski - nothing personal, he's looking after his best interests that's the way it is

If a fit Jones is available then we should be interested - for those who would prefer we see out the season with one or both of Dunne and Long then with all due respect to them we will almost certainly be relegated
Or we could try and sign a centre back who isn’t extremely injury prone and on huge wages.

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Post by EarbyClaret » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:53 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:46 pm
Or we could try and sign a centre back who isn’t extremely injury prone and on huge wages.
Absolutely - but they would need to be of PL quality (and probably experience), better than Dunne/Long and able to help us keep out of the relegation places - if they can play RB too that would be a bonus, having missed Craig Dawson no one obvious springs to mind

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Post by CFS » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:55 pm

EarbyClaret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:53 pm
Absolutely - but they would need to be of PL quality (and probably experience), better than Dunne/Long and able to help us keep out of the relegation places - if they can play RB too that would be a bonus, having missed Craig Dawson no one obvious springs to mind
Like I stated tomori from chelski watch this space.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:01 pm

EarbyClaret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:53 pm
Absolutely - but they would need to be of PL quality (and probably experience), better than Dunne/Long and able to help us keep out of the relegation places - if they can play RB too that would be a bonus, having missed Craig Dawson no one obvious springs to mind
Hopefully new ownership and some more funds will mean we have a better chance of landing Dyche’s top targets.

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Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:12 pm

CFS wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:55 pm
Like I stated tomori from chelski watch this space.
Tomori never comes !! :)
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Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:15 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:46 pm
Too quick, you haven’t read it through - I was only mocking the thought of “bringing Edgar out of retirement”.
I was on your 'side'

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