Today’s football

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:17 pm

Can’t see another thread but will merge if there is.

Just to report that Matty Cash has picked up his fifth yellow and Douglas Luiz has been sent off so both miss Villa’s game against us next Thursday.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:22 pm

These Villa players seem to love a booking.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:25 pm

0-1 Villa (peno)

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:25 pm

Villa win it iwith an injury time penalty.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:26 pm

Luiz was lucky he didn’t get a straight red.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:27 pm

Cardiff 0 Swansea 2

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:29 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:17 pm

Just to report that Matty Cash has picked up his fifth yellow and Douglas Luiz has been sent off so both miss Villa’s game against us next Thursday.

That’s cheered me up! Just need Grealish to get a second yellow now!!

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:34 pm

That sort of game is what is so rubbish about football today. What is the most important skill in modern football? The ability to touch someone and fall over. That's what Villa's penalty was for - he wasn't tripped. He ran into the box and fell over. If football was won on ball control and ability to put the ball in the net, it would have been a well deserved 0-0.

The Wolves sending off was the same. The Villa player ran past a wolves man and threw himself down. It needed slow motion to see if there was any touch at all - and yes, he "felt the touch" on his calf. Touching someone's calf does not make both his legs cease to function.

Players are cheats and referees are imbeciles. What is the point.

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:35 pm

Our man Deano has done the business again today with both Matt Cash and Douglas Luiz suspended for our game next Thursday.

Well done Deano !

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:42 pm

dsr wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:34 pm
That sort of game is what is so rubbish about football today. What is the most important skill in modern football? The ability to touch someone and fall over. That's what Villa's penalty was for - he wasn't tripped. He ran into the box and fell over. If football was won on ball control and ability to put the ball in the net, it would have been a well deserved 0-0.

The Wolves sending off was the same. The Villa player ran past a wolves man and threw himself down. It needed slow motion to see if there was any touch at all - and yes, he "felt the touch" on his calf. Touching someone's calf does not make both his legs cease to function.

Players are cheats and referees are imbeciles. What is the point.

They were both clear fouls. Moutinho's booking seemed a big harsh though.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:48 pm

Do you still get fined if you have more than 5 players carded?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:51 pm

Tall Paul wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:42 pm
They were both clear fouls. Moutinho's booking seemed a big harsh though.

That's where we disagree. I don't think that just touching someone is enough to make it a foul; and if it is enough, it shouldn't make any difference whether the player falls over or not. Chris Wood has been touched many times in the penalty area this year, and hasn't had any penalties.

Out if interest - how should a referee decide when a foul has been committed - or rather, who has committed it? There is one small ball and two large players moving towards it. Inevitably, they will touch. Do you agree the present rule that says the one who falls over first can have the free kick, or is there a better way? Or do you not think that is the rule?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:54 pm

dsr wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:51 pm
That's where we disagree. I don't think that just touching someone is enough to make it a foul; and if it is enough, it shouldn't make any difference whether the player falls over or not. Chris Wood has been touched many times in the penalty area this year, and hasn't had any penalties.

Out if interest - how should a referee decide when a foul has been committed - or rather, who has committed it? There is one small ball and two large players moving towards it. Inevitably, they will touch. Do you agree the present rule that says the one who falls over first can have the free kick, or is there a better way? Or do you not think that is the rule?

That isn't the rule (or the law).

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:57 pm

Tall Paul wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:54 pm
That isn't the rule (or the law).

Can you genuinely say that referees don't in practice give free kicks to the man who falls over and not to the man who doesn't? That referees referee to the letter of what is written down and don't have "unwritten rules"?

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:00 pm

Ordinarily, I would want Bruce to fall flat on his ugly squashed face but, just for today, Come on you Magpies !

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:00 pm

Newcastle 1 up after 20 secs

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:01 pm

dsr wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:57 pm
Can you genuinely say that referees don't in practice give free kicks to the man who falls over and not to the man who doesn't? That referees referee to the letter of what is written down and don't have "unwritten rules"?

No.

Doesn't mean that the two incidents in today's game weren't clear fouls though.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:01 pm

That didn't take long !!!! Get in !

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:03 pm

VAR make the correct decision. Shock Horror !

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:03 pm

22 seconds

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:07 pm

Tall Paul wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:42 pm
They were both clear fouls. Moutinho's booking seemed a big harsh though.

Moutinho was silly to be honest but a clear penalty, not sure why anyone would think not.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:23 pm

Venkys 0 Naaarch 1

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:03 pm

Charlie Austin on for his West Brom Premier League debut

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:06 pm

Norwich winning.
Ooops. Missed t'other post.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:07 pm

Baggies level at Newcastle - Furlong

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:17 pm

Wovers level, 1-1.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:17 pm

Equaliser at Deadwood.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:22 pm

Norwich back in front!

1-2

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:23 pm

all WBA in their game, Newcastle can't get a kick at the moment

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:23 pm

What's happened to St. Maximin at Newcastle? He had a good game against us but haven't seen much of him lately.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:25 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:23 pm
What's happened to St. Maximin at Newcastle? He had a good game against us but haven't seen much of him lately.

He doesn’t play well very often is what I’ve been told.

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:25 pm

Deep joy. Checking Championship table and as I’m looking the NEIGHbours drop two spots. No doubt Norwich have scored. Gettin.

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:26 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:23 pm
What's happened to St. Maximin at Newcastle? He had a good game against us but haven't seen much of him lately.

Has he got the virus?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:26 pm

Luton 3 PNE 0
Wigan 3 Accy Stanley 2

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:07 pm
Moutinho was silly to be honest but a clear penalty, not sure why anyone would think not.

I thought he was a bit unlucky as he didn’t kick him but the lad clipped his knee but it was a yellow. A tackle he had little chance of making.

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:32 pm

Doesn't say much for the Championship when Norwich, Bournemouth and Watford are doing so well in it.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:34 pm

Jase the cone placer not going too bad is he ? I wonder how "our Woany" would do on his own ?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:38 pm

What a finish by Gayle. 2-1.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:38 pm

Newcastle 2-1 up, 81 mins

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:39 pm

Gayle header puts Mags back in front.2-1

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:40 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:34 pm
Jase the cone placer not going too bad is he ? I wonder how "our Woany" would do on his own ?

Not on his own is he? He’s got Graeme Jones there who has totally changed the way they play.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:40 pm

Cracking header by Gayle. Surely no way back for West Brom now

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:44 pm

Forest seem to be doing their best to get relegated, even with Chris Hougton in charge.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:46 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:32 pm
Doesn't say much for the Championship when Norwich, Bournemouth and Watford are doing so well in it.

Good, as we need the gap to widen if/when we go down.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:54 pm

Rovers lose.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:55 pm

Baggies lose again though they have played quite well in the second half, but Blackburrrn lose as well, so happy days.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:59 pm

It’s been a good weekend so far.

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:00 pm

Rovers still haven’t beaten a team above 13th. Tony Deluded still thinks they can make the play offs.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:06 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:54 pm
Rovers lose.

Oh dear, never mind

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:07 pm

Barrow lose late again. Time they canned Fatty Dunn.