Move for Hendrick.....

BurnleyMickSouth · Post by **BurnleyMickSouth** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:52 pm

Our Ex player who so wanted to run his contract down and move to a bigger club, has got his wish today, hes moved from playing on the pitch, and MOVED to the subs bench, well i thought it was funny.....

good old Jeff.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:54 pm

You're easily amused.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:58 pm

Is he a covid casualty, not quite fully fit yet? Or even put on the bench as camouflage so the opposition don't know how short they are?

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:00 pm

I think we’d have more points on the board now if he was still in our squad.

BurnleyMickSouth · Post by **BurnleyMickSouth** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:00 pm

well i thought it was funny you miserable sod,,,,,,,,blimey dont have a laugh on here, you get pulled to pieces for it.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:02 pm

No it's not funny....wish he was still our player hes definitely missed,well by me anyway

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:08 pm

Gone and never remebered as far i as see it

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:11 pm

Quality player, hardly ever injured and should have been our right winger this season, big miss for me, needs replacing asap with the same quality.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:11 pm

Personally, I can't wait for Jeff Hendrick to retire.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:17 pm

A player who like many midfielders who are good at there jobs are not appreciated by the fans. I think we have missed him far more than most on here would see, or at least admit to.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:20 pm

Big miss for us this season

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:58 pm

BurnleyMickSouth wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:52 pm
Our Ex player who so wanted to run his contract down and move to a bigger club, has got his wish today, hes moved from playing on the pitch, and MOVED to the subs bench, well i thought it was funny..... good old Jeff.

Not the first time he’s been on the bench but that will happen at Newcastle, Bruce rotates his squad quite a bit.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:22 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:11 pm
Personally, I can't wait for Jeff Hendrick to retire.

Know what you mean

Sunny Cornwall · Post by **Sunny Cornwall** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:27 pm

One of the Newcastle websites showed his stats for the last few years. Ran around a lot and did nothing! Exactly what I saw.

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:29 pm

Sunny Cornwall wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:27 pm
One of the Newcastle websites showed his stats for the last few years. Ran around a lot and did nothing! Exactly what I saw.

That’s pretty much my assessment of him
Aswell.

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:31 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:11 pm
Quality player, hardly ever injured and should have been our right winger this season, big miss for me, needs replacing asap with the same quality.

Well, he shouldn't have been our right winger this season. Playing a CM at RM and hoping he'll carry on doing a job is something completely different. We should have signed a new right mid. Replacing with the same quality, hopefully not, upgrade needed me thinks!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:32 pm

Sunny Cornwall wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:27 pm
One of the Newcastle websites showed his stats for the last few years. Ran around a lot and did nothing! Exactly what I saw.

Feel sorry for you then if that’s all you saw.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:33 pm

I liked Hendrick, I liked Boyd and Arfield too although I don’t think we are significantly weaker without any of them and if we are it’s because of how disastrous our recruitment has been.

I’d love Arfield back though, imo he will be remembered as a club legend of this Dyche era for aslong as earth lasts.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:33 pm

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:17 pm
A player who like many midfielders who are good at there jobs are not appreciated by the fans. I think we have missed him far more than most on here would see, or at least admit to.

Became the target unfortunately as soon as Brady was injured at Leicester. Absolutely no doubt in my view that we’ve missed him.

Billyblah · Post by **Billyblah** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:33 pm

BurnleyMickSouth wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:52 pm
Our Ex player who so wanted to run his contract down and move to a bigger club, has got his wish today, hes moved from playing on the pitch, and MOVED to the subs bench, well i thought it was funny..... good old Jeff.

Says more about the management at Burnley, rather than the player in that he was allowed to run his contract down. It's either a contract extension or sell.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:45 pm

I watched the first half of the Newcastle game in Tanges sports bar in Benalmadena. There were a few Geordies there watching the game. I asked why Hendrick wasn't playing and got the reply (in a strong Geordie accent) "it's because he's f.cking sh.te mate". Make of that what you will.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:50 pm

Billyblah wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:33 pm
Says more about the management at Burnley, rather than the player in that he was allowed to run his contract down. It's either a contract extension or sell.

In fairness, what did you expect the club to do? They can’t force a sale prior to his contract running down and they can’t force him to sign a new deal either. I don’t think it says anything about the management at Burnley if a player is determined to run down his contract and leave.

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:50 pm
In fairness, what did you expect the club to do? They can’t force a sale prior to his contract running down and they can’t force him to sign a new deal either. I don’t think it says anything about the management at Burnley if a player is determined to run down his contract and leave.

Totally agree with you Tony, nothing the club could do.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:10 pm

Hendrick was steady when played in a position he was familiar with and could affect the game. As a stand in central midfielder he was acceptable, and as a right sided midfielder he was better.

I wanted him to stay, but he didn’t want to. Fair enough as far as I’m concerned, but let’s not rewrite history here and turn him into Cristiano because we remember the song.

Any claims that we’d be in a better position than we are now if he’d stayed are nothing more than fairy stories.

I liked him, and would have preferred he stayed, but we lost a decent squad player, not Andrea Pirlo.

I was hoping The Icelander would remain injury free and get his fitness up to scratch early so we’d never need to discuss this....

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:50 pm
In fairness, what did you expect the club to do? They can’t force a sale prior to his contract running down and they can’t force him to sign a new deal either. I don’t think it says anything about the management at Burnley if a player is determined to run down his contract and leave.

Fans seem to get offended by players wanting to move on, almost as though thy should be loyal until we want rid. It’s a 15 year career for most, get what you can whilst you can! As long as you are working hard, as players like Jeff did, then I’ve no problem with it.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:28 pm

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:02 pm
No it's not funny....wish he was still our player hes definitely missed,well by me anyway

With our current fit squad, he could still have undoubtedly played a major role and could probably have featured in his more favoured central midfield

At least he was generally fit and available unlike some of our squad

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:44 pm

Running down his contract with us then nailing down a £10 million+ deal with the talent he has?

Say what you want about Hendrick but I think the guy is an absolute genius.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:01 pm

Winstonswhite wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:44 pm
Running down his contract with us then nailing down a £10 million+ deal with the talent he has?

Say what you want about Hendrick but I think the guy is an absolute genius.

Aye the Irish aren't as daft as people think....

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:04 pm

Winstonswhite wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:44 pm
Running down his contract with us then nailing down a £10 million+ deal with the talent he has?

Say what you want about Hendrick but I think the guy is an absolute genius.

Could be his agent's idea.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:08 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:24 pm
Fans seem to get offended by players wanting to move on, almost as though thy should be loyal until we want rid. It’s a 15 year career for most, get what you can whilst you can! As long as you are working hard, as players like Jeff did, then I’ve no problem with it.

If there are crowds in when we play Newcastle at home he will get booed for no reason other than he opted to move to another club.

It’s selective though. Danny Ings & Glen Little did the same and got good receptions when they came back.

Sunny Cornwall · Post by **Sunny Cornwall** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:15 pm

Sunny Cornwall wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:27 pm
One of the Newcastle websites showed his stats for the last few years. Ran around a lot and did nothing! Exactly what I saw.

Stats showed he couldn’t pass, couldn’t dribble and didn’t tackle. Nothing else to see but him running around. Ok he stood next to Lowts from time to time to try and stop attacks down the right. Offered nothing to our going forward.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:08 pm
If there are crowds in when we play Newcastle at home he will get booed for no reason other than he opted to move to another club.

It’s selective though. Danny Ings & Glen Little did the same and got good receptions when they came back.

Exactly, you only own them for that period, funny how clubs don’t just sign players up for 15 years on 50k per week, has to work both ways

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:22 pm

He did what was asked of him by Dyche otherwise he wouldn't have started so many games.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:25 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:28 pm
With our current fit squad, he could still have undoubtedly played a major role and could probably have featured in his more favoured central midfield

At least he was generally fit and available unlike some of our squad

He served us well,hardly ever injured,to my knowledge never grumbled about playing out of position most games, in my book that's someone you need in a team like ours...cant believe the total disregard from our support for Hendrick's contribution during his time at the Turf

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:08 pm
If there are crowds in when we play Newcastle at home he will get booed for no reason other than he opted to move to another club.

It’s selective though. Danny Ings & Glen Little did the same and got good receptions when they came back.

Is it possible that it’s because of the early form of Hendrick? I say “form” but I suppose I really mean effectiveness. He was played well out of position for a long time in a position we tried to invent and if people are honest it really didn’t work - not least for Jeff. We only really saw Jeffs worth when the experiment was ended and we saw him out on the right really affecting games. By then, he already had become the whipping boy.

Ings and Blakey were both really effective and exciting from the off. At least to me they were.

Not condoning his treatment, I liked him.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:29 pm

Shaggy wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:29 pm
That’s pretty much my assessment of him
Aswell.

Yours assessment because you know nowt about football

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:42 pm

Top Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:29 pm
Yours assessment because you know nowt about football

Ok sugar

Red Fox Rocks Socks · Post by **Red Fox Rocks Socks** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:08 pm
If there are crowds in when we play Newcastle at home he will get booed for no reason other than he opted to move to another club.

It’s selective though. Danny Ings & Glen Little did the same and got good receptions when they came back.

I think Ings’ reception would have be very different had we not been on an upward curve too. I think he’d have been the cause of all ills if we were languishing in the championship or worse for years for some

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:48 pm

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:45 pm
Is it possible that it’s because of the early form of Hendrick? I say “form” but I suppose I really mean effectiveness. He was played well out of position for a long time in a position we tried to invent and if people are honest it really didn’t work - not least for Jeff. We only really saw Jeffs worth when the experiment was ended and we saw him out on the right really affecting games. By then, he already had become the whipping boy.

Ings and Blakey were both really effective and exciting from the off. At least to me they were.

Not condoning his treatment, I liked him.

This out of position stuff. This was when we climbed to fourth in the league playing him behind one striker. For me that worked really well and he was a vital part of that system.

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:59 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:48 pm
This out of position stuff. This was when we climbed to fourth in the league playing him behind one striker. For me that worked really well and he was a vital part of that system.

The problem with Hendrick is he isn’t that effective on the ball he was a fish out of water playing as a shadow striker, no threat came from him at all and that’s what should be happening from someone playing in that position.

Hendrick was too often chasing lost causes and trying to affect second phase plays.

The main issue with Hendrick was the price tag and the at best bang average performances from him. He didn’t do a great deal
Wrong, just never done a great deal apart from tick up KMs on the gps tracker.

I don’t wish Jeff and bad at all but I’m equally not bothered in the slightest that he isn’t out player anymore.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:48 pm
This out of position stuff. This was when we climbed to fourth in the league playing him behind one striker. For me that worked really well and he was a vital part of that system.

No denying it worked collectively, as the league position showed, but at what cost to Jeff? Not personally, but the fact his role was undervalued by quite a lot of fans and that didn’t do him any favours whatsoever and I wonder if that may well have contributed to him just wanting out.

As an aside, why did we end up abandoning the successful system?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:13 pm

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:08 pm
No denying it worked collectively, as the league position showed, but at what cost to Jeff? Not personally, but the fact his role was undervalued by quite a lot of fans and that didn’t do him any favours whatsoever and I wonder if that may well have contributed to him just wanting out.

As an aside, why did we end up abandoning the successful system?

I think it provided us with a system that got the best out of Defour. I think the four behind Hendrick were JBG, Defour, Cork, Brady until December when Brady suffered the injury.

I think Defour’s injury just about ended it to be honest. He was a vital player but I’ll never understand how people couldn’t see how effective Jeff was in that role.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:20 pm

I can't see Jeff getting booed.

We definitely needed an upgrade on him but he put a shift in for us.

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:25 pm

BurnleyMickSouth wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:52 pm
Our Ex player who so wanted to run his contract down and move to a bigger club, has got his wish today, hes moved from playing on the pitch, and MOVED to the subs bench, well i thought it was funny..... good old Jeff.

Funny? Oh.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:50 pm

He is exactly where I predicted he would be

Average championship player. I said he would be on the bench by Xmas, and I said he will be In the championship soon after. Watch this space

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:22 am

Hendrick to me is a player that needs a team to play a certain way, when he played with Defour and Cork some of the football we played was great to watch.

It is when fans expect him to do things that don’t suit his style that can make him look ordinary, he isn’t a right midfielder that will beat a man or put crosses in.

I also thought he was the player that probably needed an arm around and “love” from the manager as he definitely a confidence player

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:28 am

He’d be starting for us if he was still with us, I’ve no doubt about it.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:35 am

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:28 am
He’d be starting for us if he was still with us, I’ve no doubt about it.

You're probably right but his detractors on here won't accept that, despite his number of starts whilst with us.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:50 am

Hendrick starting in any premier league team is just an indication of that teams weakness

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:12 am

Would rather have had Vydra playing in the shadow striker role than Hendrick, saying that Vydra is a far better player.