Can You Walk On Water Or Under It

[winsomeyen]

I heard a question being asked in a pub, but had no time to hear the answer.

If you stand on the Town Hall steps is it possible to leave the Borough of Burnley without crossing water?

[ClaretTony]

That’s a good question and I suspect at first thought that you can’t.

[Rileybobs]

A quick look on Google Maps suggests not.

[ClaretTony]

A quick look on Google Maps suggests not.

Cheat. I was trying to work it out in my head.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Good question. My initial thoughts were definitely not - especially given the weather...

Maps would suggest not.

[gawthorpe_view]

I heard a question being asked in a pub, but had no time to hear the answer.

If you stand on the Town Hall steps is it possible to leave the Borough of Burnley without crossing water?

Only by walking up one bank to above the source of the river, crossing over and walking back down the other bank.

[Rileybobs]

Cheat. I was trying to work it out in my head.

Sorry. I was born in Burnley but other than the football club I know next to nothing about the town. I wouldn't know how to get to the Town Hall from the Turf. I just thought that the question seemed implausible but that's quite a complex water system in the town centre!

[Rileybobs]

Only by walking up one bank to above the source of the river, crossing over and walking back down the other bank.

Are you forgetting the canal?

[FactualFrank]

Can one of you get a map and put a ring around the borough of Burnley.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Are you forgetting the canal?

Theres the answer - you can!

[Lowbankclaret]

On foot, I think you can

[Lowbankclaret]

Theres the answer - you can!

The canal does cross rivers.

[winsomeyen]

The answer appears to be walk down Elizabeth st to the canal behind Tesco and walk on the canal bank towards brierfield.

[RMutt]

Go under the canal. Up Brunshaw Road. Make your way to Long Causeway. Where does Burnley stop?

[winsomeyen]

Go under the canal. Up Brunshaw Road. Make your way to Long Causeway. Where does Burnley stop?

If you go under the canal ie the culvert you have crossed water.

[Rileybobs]

Look at an aerial photo, it's not possible.

[RMutt]

If you go under the canal ie the culvert you have crossed water.

I was assuming crossing meant going over. You wouldn’t say, you crossed water through a tunnel for example. But you would cross a bridge.

[Dazzler]

It is possible but not legal.

[Bin Ont Turf]

I remember Man City walking on water in a first half against us, sadly.

[FactualFrank]

I was assuming crossing meant going over. You wouldn’t say, you crossed water through a tunnel for example. But you would cross a bridge.

I was thinking the same thing.

[KateR]

I would say yes but not driving but the thread soes say walk

https://satellites.pro/Burnley_map.UK#5 ... .183089,18

[boatshed bill]

This is true: I know someone who can walk under water at least 12 ft deep. He doesn't float.

[cricketfieldclarets]

I remember Man City walking on water in a first half against us, sadly.

I can remember them walking all over us several first halfs! Even when we were good.

[Jakubclaret]

The complete borough is absolutely encircled with watercourses mainly the brun, Pendle water & the canal without even thinking about the tributaries, you would need to be airborne & not pedestrian.

[FactualFrank]

The complete borough is absolutely encircled with watercourses mainly the brun, Pendle water & the canal without even thinking about the tributaries, you would need to be airborne & not pedestrian.

This is the thing - even if you'e airborne you could be classed as crossing it.

The original question is vague.

[KateR]

This is the thing - even if you'e airborne you could be classed as crossing it.

The original question is vague.

not that vague, as long as it is limited to rivers and canals, if you were to be pedantic and say well what about all the drains and sewers then there is not way yo could do it.

If on the other hand the town hall was classed as some form of sanctuary, then just turn around and walk inside and you're out of the borough to all intents and purposes.

Am beginning to think it is a trick question as in above cases, however when you look at the aerial picture I posted I did spend a little time (yes, sad I know) and thought I could get out but I am not sure on the boundary limits, apart from that not vague at all lol

[FactualFrank]

not that vague, as long as it is limited to rivers and canals, if you were to be pedantic and say well what about all the drains and sewers then there is not way yo could do it.

If on the other hand the town hall was classed as some form of sanctuary, then just turn around and walk inside and you're out of the borough to all intents and purposes.

Am beginning to think it is a trick question as in above cases, however when you look at the aerial picture I posted I did spend a little time (yes, sad I know) and thought I could get out but I am not sure on the boundary limits, apart from that not vague at all lol

I could get into my car and drive out of Burnley. I'm not crossing water, as if I were, I would need a hovercraft.

Sorted.

[Jakubclaret]

This is the thing - even if you'e airborne you could be classed as crossing it.

The original question is vague.

I agree very vague, we are all pretty much guessing as the OP question isn’t specific or precise to what determines crossing any water, you’ve got a network of drains & pipework running underground so effectively you are always crossing water.

[Rileybobs]

It’s not possible. Look at google maps for 20 seconds and you can see why.

[KateR]

I could get into my car and drive out of Burnley. I'm not crossing water, as if I were, I would need a hovercraft.

Sorted.

actually if you read just the thread title question, then no, it is as we know practically impossible to walk on water but then if you look at the OP clarification, then maybe if I got in a hot air balloon and went straight up, would I leave the borough, is there a height limitation? Yet if we apply it to walking, then I still think the answer is yes.

[FactualFrank]

actually if you read just the thread title question, then no, it is as we know practically impossible to walk on water but then if you look at the OP clarification, then maybe if I got in a hot air balloon and went straight up, would I leave the borough, is there a height limitation? Yet if we apply it to walking, then I still think the answer is yes.

Aye, it might just come down to that. Reading the thread title and ignoring the rest.

[KateR]

It’s not possible. Look at google maps for 20 seconds and you can see why.

I don't think Google Maps are that good, if I use the aerial picture link below I think there is a way, not driving but walking as per the thread, but just an opinion and am not going into route points or anything beyond this

https://satellites.pro/Burnley_map.UK#5 ... .254609,16

[Rileybobs]

I don't think Google Maps are that good, if I use the aerial picture link below I think there is a way, not driving but walking as per the thread, but just an opinion and am not going into route points or anything beyond this

https://satellites.pro/Burnley_map.UK#5 ... .254609,16

When I posted above about an aerial photo I meant to say a map. It shows where the canal and rivers run below ground.

[bfcjg]

As an aside a guy I worked with who was a local historian said if the Germans had of bombed the culvert in the second world war the end of the war would have been delayed as most of the forces uniforms were made in Burnley and the flooding would have stopped production for months. Folklore?

[Bin Ont Turf]

I can remember them walking all over us several first halfs! Even when we were good.

I was talking about the 1-6 against them and the standing water on the pitch.

I don't know if you can class us as good then or not.

[cricketfieldclarets]

I was talking about the 1-6 against them and the standing water on the pitch.

I don't know if you can class us as good then or not.

Yeah figured that. I was only one left in my section of JHL by the time the foruth went in. And I was soaked. Just couldnt leave.

But the city away 5-1 under stan when were top always stuck with me. Defining moment of that season and stans career here.

[dsr]

As an aside a guy I worked with who was a local historian said if the Germans had of bombed the culvert in the second world war the end of the war would have been delayed as most of the forces uniforms were made in Burnley and the flooding would have stopped production for months. Folklore?

If there was no other place in the UK where clothes could be made, then perhaps. But if there had been any possibility of shifting production to somewhere else, then no. I suspect they would have found a way.

[Wile E Coyote]

I heard a question being asked in a pub, but had no time to hear the answer.

If you stand on the Town Hall steps is it possible to leave the Borough of Burnley without crossing water?

yes, if you die and ascend to heaven, or descend to hell.

[tim_noone]

As an aside a guy I worked with who was a local historian said if the Germans had of bombed the culvert in the second world war the end of the war would have been delayed as most of the forces uniforms were made in Burnley and the flooding would have stopped production for months. Folklore?

The tale I heard was Burnley would be Flooded if the Culvert Bridge was Blown up.the nearest locks being Barrowford not sure about the other direction.

[FactualFrank]

The tale I heard was Burnley would be Flooded if the Culvert Bridge was Blown up.the nearest locks being Barrowford not sure about the other direction.

Tim. Help me out. Can we walk on water or can we bloody not?

[dsr]

The tale I heard was Burnley would be Flooded if the Culvert Bridge was Blown up.the nearest locks being Barrowford not sure about the other direction.

There's a 24 mile stretch between locks, but I strongly suspect they will have some sort of gate or other way of preventing a flood.

But even if we take 24 miles. Convert it into metric for easier calculations - 40km. Average width = 5m, so I'm told, which means the surface area of the canal over 24 miles is 0.2 square kms.

Burnley as a whole is 15.82 square kilometres, but some of that is uphill. Let's call it a square mile of flood plain - though I suspect it's a lot bigger. A square mile is 2.56 square kilometres, so it's 13 times the surface area of the canal.

Therefore the average depth of water would be a thirteenth of the canal depth, since the area is 13 times more. If the average canal depth is about a metre, that means the average depth of water in Burnley would be 8 cm or 3 inches.

Bearing in mind that water would be flooding out through the culverts as it was flooding in through the canal, that would mean it would never actually get 3 inches deep. I don;t think they needed to worry unduly.

[Cheshireclaret]

There's a 24 mile stretch between locks, but I strongly suspect they will have some sort of gate or other way of preventing a flood.

But even if we take 24 miles. Convert it into metric for easier calculations - 40km. Average width = 5m, so I'm told, which means the surface area of the canal over 24 miles is 0.2 square kms.

Burnley as a whole is 15.82 square kilometres, but some of that is uphill. Let's call it a square mile of flood plain - though I suspect it's a lot bigger. A square mile is 2.56 square kilometres, so it's 13 times the surface area of the canal.

Therefore the average depth of water would be a thirteenth of the canal depth, since the area is 13 times more. If the average canal depth is about a metre, that means the average depth of water in Burnley would be 8 cm or 3 inches.

Bearing in mind that water would be flooding out through the culverts as it was flooding in through the canal, that would mean it would never actually get 3 inches deep. I don;t think they needed to worry unduly.

All of that at 1:36am on a Sunday. Extraordinary.

[dandeclaret]

I heard a question being asked in a pub, but had no time to hear the answer.

If you stand on the Town Hall steps is it possible to leave the Borough of Burnley without crossing water?

Yes..... walk up Manchester road to the weavers triangle.... get in the canal and swim in the middle of it until you reach the Burnley border. You will neither have crossed water or gone under it..... as long as you keep your head out of course.

[winsomeyen]

Yes..... walk up Manchester road to the weavers triangle.... get in the canal and swim in the middle of it until you reach the Burnley border. You will neither have crossed water or gone under it..... as long as you keep your head out of course.

As soon as you start to walk up Manchester road you cross the Brun.

[Hipper]

Could it have been done when the canal leaked or was drained?!!!

[Sean Dyche's Watch]

Yes..... walk up Manchester road to the weavers triangle.... get in the canal and swim in the middle of it until you reach the Burnley border. You will neither have crossed water or gone under it..... as long as you keep your head out of course.

I think you've forgotten about the River Brun that runs down the side of the Town Hall, which you would cross within 15 or so metres after turning right from the Town Hall steps!

[Sean Dyche's Watch]

As soon as you start to walk up Manchester road you cross the Brun.

Ah, just seen this post! I didn't initially scroll past the post I've just replied to.

[tim_noone]

All of that at 1:36am on a Sunday. Extraordinary.

[tim_noone]

Tim. Help me out. Can we walk on water or can we bloody not?

Yes.......but it's got to be frozen Frank.

[dandeclaret]

I think you've forgotten about the River Brun that runs down the side of the Town Hall, which you would cross within 15 or so metres after turning right from the Town Hall steps!

Ok walk down, into town, turn right along St James's Street, to the round about, turn right to Tescos, just before you get to the brun, go up the canal bank.... get into the canal and swim away.