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Great gamesmanship

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:30 pm

That is experienced gamesmanship from us there. That goes against us so often. Well done to McNeil and Westwood who know xhaka is a liability discipline wise. About time we benefitted instead of lost out. Not had that since Barton. :D

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:31 pm

Lets see if we can keep 11 on the field now...

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:32 pm

How many times have we been too nice. Or fell foul of teams taking advantage of us. I’d rather we didn’t need to resort to that but it was very clever and I’m sure planned.

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:33 pm

We need to make it work to our advantage now though...

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:33 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:31 pm
Lets see if we can keep 11 on the field now...
Bringing Barnes on has probably reduced our chances
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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:34 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:33 pm
Bringing Barnes on has probably reduced our chances
I’d like to see us go for it here. Three pints very much to gain.

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by Bosscat » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:36 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:34 pm
I’d like to see us go for it here. Three pints very much to gain.
3 pints would be very nice ... but rather have the Points 😉
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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:39 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:30 pm
That is experienced gamesmanship from us there. That goes against us so often. Well done to McNeil and Westwood who know xhaka is a liability discipline wise. About time we benefitted instead of lost out. Not had that since Barton. :D
Just said the exact same thing in my mates group chat

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:48 pm

We are doing an Arsenal on Arsenal
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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by bobinho » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:07 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:33 pm
Bringing Barnes on has probably reduced our chances
Logged in just to like that... very funny. :lol:

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:13 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:34 pm
I’d like to see us go for it here. Three pints very much to gain.
And go for it we did. Still waiting for one pint mind :D

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:17 pm

When their player caught tarky with his hands on the face (not a foul for me btw) then threw himself to the ground holding his own face in panic, sums modern football up.
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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:22 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:17 pm
When their player caught tarky with his hands on the face (not a foul for me btw) then threw himself to the ground holding his own face in panic, sums modern football up.
Evra laying into them. Slating their attitude.

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:52 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:17 pm
When their player caught tarky with his hands on the face (not a foul for me btw) then threw himself to the ground holding his own face in panic, sums modern football up.
Evra 'he should win an oscar thats the worse bit!'

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:03 pm

It was a cynical foul on McNeil and I can understand his reaction. It was just fortunate that he managed to face up to Xhaka who is not the type to apologise. Great stuff. Westwood was simply trying to keep the peace.
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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:14 pm

So the Arsenal lad gets booked for lashing out at Tarky but no penalty given. I'm assuming the ball wasn't in play ?

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by Belgianclaret » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:24 pm

Didn’t you hear the gaffer? We don’t do gamesmanship

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:11 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:24 pm
Didn’t you hear the gaffer? We don’t do gamesmanship
Its about time we did!
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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:14 pm

I said on my WhatsApp chat with my brothers that we are pretty poor and making fouls look like fouls. This was after Wood’s ankles were clipped and Arsenal broke. Had that been an Arsenal player they’d have dropped to the floor holding their ankles.

I don’t want to see deception or cheating but I loved seeing McNeill square up to Xhaka, and Westwood backing him up. Him being stupid enough to take the bait was the icing on the top of the cake. A little disappointed that their two hairy players weren’t playing to add to the enjoyment.

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by Stacky_claret » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:17 pm

Dwight squared up to him because it was a hard late dirty challenge
Well done young man

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by martin_p » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:20 pm

Stacky_claret wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:17 pm
Dwight squared up to him because it was a hard late dirty challenge
Well done young man
Agree. It was nothing to do with gamesmanship and everything to do with being angry about a needless challenge that could easily have caused injury.
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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:22 pm

I was pleased to see us staying down a little bit more than normal tonight. We don’t get anything for bouncing back up

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:23 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:03 pm
Westwood was simply trying to keep the peace.
Really?! He knew exactly what he was doing there, hence his fall to the floor once Xhaka connected with his throat ;)

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:29 pm

Not sure why Brady chose to cross instead of run to the corner on 92 minutes. We then lost possession and needlessly had to soak up 3-4 minutes of chances.

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:30 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:29 pm
Not sure why Brady chose to cross instead of run to the corner on 92 minutes. We then lost possession and needlessly had to soak up 3-4 minutes of chances.
Said at the time that I bet Dyche gives him a bollocking for that after the game, three points or not!

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:32 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:29 pm
Not sure why Brady chose to cross instead of run to the corner on 92 minutes. We then lost possession and needlessly had to soak up 3-4 minutes of chances.
Yeah. Really silly . He’s been good in the last couple of games so I don’t want to be critical, but he doesn’t half fo some daft things at daft times. I was expecting to see Pieters replace him for the last 10 mins. Good performance from Robbie though and hopefully more to come.

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:35 pm

Westwood made the most of it - as he did last year with the Norwich lad - but in both cases he was entitled to go down and the correct decision was made.

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by MT03ALG » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:51 am

One nil to the Bur-ne-ley !!
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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:54 am

MT03ALG wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:51 am
One nil to the Bur-ne-ley !!
Did we win!? :)

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by dermotdermot » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:39 am

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:23 pm
Really?! He knew exactly what he was doing there, hence his fall to the floor once Xhaka connected with his throat ;)
He was trying to keep the peace. Xhaka pulled his shirt and then grabbed him quite viciously around the neck. Going down was the best option. Would’nt you do the same? If you don’t do this, the situation escalates.

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:15 am

dermotdermot wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:39 am
Wouldn't you do the same?
No, Salford Kiss for me every time ;)

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by KRBFC » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:42 am

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:35 pm
Westwood made the most of it - as he did last year with the Norwich lad - but in both cases he was entitled to go down and the correct decision was made.
Why was he entitled to go down? Because there was some contact? Iv seen many people on here claim it’s a player diving to win a penalty when there is contact, which way is it?

I don’t mind either way but in a few days the same people saying Westwood was entitled to go down will be complaining when Grealish is going down after contact....

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Re: Great gamesmanship

Post by NewClaret » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:12 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:30 pm
Said at the time that I bet Dyche gives him a bollocking for that after the game, three points or not!
Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:32 pm

Yeah. Really silly . He’s been good in the last couple of games so I don’t want to be critical, but he doesn’t half fo some daft things at daft times. I was expecting to see Pieters replace him for the last 10 mins. Good performance from Robbie though and hopefully more to come.
I certainly hope he got a telling off. We have to think smart in those situations. Perfect opportunity to run the clock down for 2 or 3 minutes, chose the wrong option and ended up under pressure against a team with a history of scoring late against us. Not knocking him, he's has a good two games otherwise, but just need to make sure all the players know what to do there in future.

Generally thought we rushed it a bit after scoring actually. Would love to see us just playing in triangles instead of hoofing it long every fourth pass.

Re: Pieters, I was expecting him to come on too. And wanted him on actually. Pleased Brady got a full 90 in the end and think he's played well in the last two games which is pleasing to see. But I equally wouldn't object to see Pieters start against Villa and double up on Grealish.

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