What I’m saying, and I think I’ve said it pretty clearly, is that referees should add the correct amount of additional time to a game regardless of the score line.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:23 pmSomeone needs to decide, if you are suggesting “why should referees have the discretion to end games early” it would assist your reasoning to offer an alternative suggestion, eg linesmen, fourth official, the game was done & dusted & I recognise that’s not the point, at least 4 mins should have been played a extra 3, I’m asking who else but the referee do you deem fit & proper to determine any additional minutes that need to be played out after the full 90? We have hypothetically reached the point now where the referees powers don’t include that judgement call.
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Paul Merson seems to be turning into Ray Winstone.
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Watching Everton v Arsenal...........mind numbing! Side to side, then back.......repeat ad nauseam.
Hope we never play like this.
Hope we never play like this.
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having said that Everton score!
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Dyche to Arsenal.
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1-1, Pepe pen for Arsenal
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How on earth has Ceballos got away with that? A clear leading with the studs in a stamping motion and caught the Everton player on the back of the calf. Seemingly not even looked at by VAR. Remarkable.
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Everton 2-1 at half time
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I bl***y hate Arsenal. What a horrible dirty side. Feel sorry for arteta in a way inheriting that bunch of sh**e
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Trying to get my head round this. A team is 7 nil up and people criticise the referee because he hasn't added on injury time down to a fine degree.
Edited to avoid being arrested by the grammar police
Edited to avoid being arrested by the grammar police
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It's not just that it is the blatant cheating and acting too. Just as Elneny fell over for no reason after pushing Tarks in the face Ceballos reacted like Mina had kicked out at him...falling over with a screwed up face holding his hip. When he realised nothing was coming of it he just got up with nothing wrong. A team full of grade A b***ends.DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:19 pmI bl***y hate Arsenal. What a horrible dirty side. Feel sorry for arteta in a way inheriting that bunch of sh**e
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Riley, you are a good poster who looks at life and football different from me
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I'm surprised they haven't tried to get Wenger back. Would give them some stability for a couple of seasons as Arteta clearly isnt the right manager for them.
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Why are you following me around this forum attempting (very poorly) to belittle me? This is the third thread (to my knowledge) in the past couple of days where you've done this. As I'm sure you're aware, the site editor has urged posters to show some decency.Yet you're trying your hardest to drag threads like this into the gutter due to some weird grudge you hold against me because of my comments relating to your hero, Captain Tom. I'm not going to be dragged down to your level so you're wasting your time.
How about actually engaging in a discussion like pretty much everyone else on here seems capable of...do you think that a referee should cut a game short if one team is winning by a substantial margin, and if so, why?
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No sendings off for the Gunners yet- doing well for them. A couple of yellows for defenders though - so still every chance.
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Pickford comes out for a cross, misses it badly Arsenal hit the post after his error. Get him back on the bench Carlo.
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Pickford makes another monumental cock-up but gets away with it.
At one time there was a suggestion he could become a world class keeper.
At one time there was a suggestion he could become a world class keeper.
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Southgate said there isn't any competition for Pickford at the moment!Vino blanco wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:47 pmPickford comes out for a cross, misses it badly Arsenal hit the post after his error. Get him back on the bench Carlo.
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I said the day Southgate got the job he wasn't good enough, nothing has changed my mind.
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That's fine, I missed your post on this matter riley.
No, a referee blowing early with a side 7 nil up is unlikely to affect any final standings in the end of season tables.
No, a referee blowing early with a side 7 nil up is unlikely to affect any final standings in the end of season tables.
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It’s all good & well suggesting something should happen I specifically asked for an alternative suggestion to support the reasoning, if you take away that responsibility away from the referee somebody else has to step in & make the decision, the managers can’t do the referee clearly isn’t capable or to be precise shouldn’t have the discretion, needless to say I won’t be holding my breath!
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Except perhaps goal difference? If you want to maintain an integrity to a league you play every game by the rules and that includes playing the correct time. The scoreline is irrelevant.
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Have you quoted the right poster Jakub ?
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So because it's unlikely that it may affect the league standings that's ok? As I posted above, teams have won championships and been relegated by goal difference so it's perfectly feasible.
Maybe refs shouldn't award penalties to teams once they're a few goals up as well. After all, it's unlikely to affect any final standings.
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I don’t know if an apology has been made by the officials so can only comment on what’s been posted on here .
If one day a horse wins the Grand National at 1000- 1 I will agree. In the meantime I just think it’s taking whataboutery to a new level.
It’s my opinion, nothing more, nothing less
If one day a horse wins the Grand National at 1000- 1 I will agree. In the meantime I just think it’s taking whataboutery to a new level.
It’s my opinion, nothing more, nothing less
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Nobody is suggesting taking any responsibility away from the referee. I have suggested that refs should play the correct amount of injury time regardless of the scoreline. Not difficult to grasp, surely?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:17 pmIt’s all good & well suggesting something should happen I specifically asked for an alternative suggestion to support the reasoning, if you take away that responsibility away from the referee somebody else has to step in & make the decision, the managers can’t do the referee clearly isn’t capable or to be precise shouldn’t have the discretion, needless to say I won’t be holding my breath!
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Yes I have it was indirectly connected to the issue you quoted initially, I actually agree with his point the correct time should be played after the 90 minutes but that doesn’t answer my question if the referee doesn’t have the discretion who else can be trusted??? It’s a good job Xmas is around the corner that will be coming first.
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Elizabeth wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:27 pmI don’t know if an apology has been made by the officials so can only comment on what’s been posted on here .
If one day a horse wins the Grand National at 1000- 1 I will agree. In the meantime I just think it’s taking whataboutery to a new level.
It’s my opinion, nothing more, nothing less
Your opinion counts for nothing,it's the refs that matters.
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Nobody should have the discretion to cut a match short because one team is winning by a large margin.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:30 pmYes I have it was indirectly connected to the issue you quoted initially, I actually agree with his point the correct time should be played after the 90 minutes but that doesn’t answer my question if the referee doesn’t have the discretion who else can be trusted??? It’s a good job Xmas is around the corner that will be coming first.
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I agree and if that’s been confirmed to be the case then I am happy to criticise any regulator
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Nice one conyoviejo and I hope you are still happy camper vaning and Viva La Nelson
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Hey Jakub, I have enough trouble with sensitive posters on here to have to respond to indirect issues. We’ll catch up another day , ok?
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As long as everybody’s ok Jakub , and we are .
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The game should be played to the EXACT time. So much can happen in the final minutes - goals, penalties sendings off and injuries. All of which could have an impact not only on goal difference but in the up-coming games.
For instance if we were to lose Ben Mee within the correct extra playtime it would be unfortunate but part and parcel of the game. Similarly the ref may have saved Palace from fielding an ongoing weakened team if Zaha had picked up an injury in the EXACT extra time.
For instance if we were to lose Ben Mee within the correct extra playtime it would be unfortunate but part and parcel of the game. Similarly the ref may have saved Palace from fielding an ongoing weakened team if Zaha had picked up an injury in the EXACT extra time.
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Newcastle playing Fulham very shortly , let’s see how that game goes . Far more important than what has just filled in an hour of time
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Lucky you’re young enough to make up for it next year
I used to go down regularly to watch Nelson , we even beat Chalky in a big final in the late 70s / early 80s
I used to go down regularly to watch Nelson , we even beat Chalky in a big final in the late 70s / early 80s
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As I type this, Burnley are back in the relegation zone, Come on Newcastle.
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It's a pity Newcastle have already got 17 points on the board before tonight's game, they look very poor.
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St Maximum is the difference to Newcastle similarly to St diver Zaha is to Palace
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Newcastle have been utterly shocking.
Fulham 1-0
Fulham 1-0
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Newcastle haven't turned up, not good for us at all
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Not sure which result is best for us . Don't want Newcastle pulling away from us , we need as many teams in the relegation mix as possible .
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Don't want Fulham to win, it will only give them more confidence than they already have.
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Yes we do , the worry is that Newcastle are inconsistent rather than relegation material. Any result that keeps Fulham in the bottom 3 has to be the aim for me
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Fulham have this game won already.
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Surely the Geordies can't be as bad 2nd half can they? not ideal for us if Fulham chalk up 3 points here.
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I'd be shocked if Newcastle get anything. Let down.