That Stamp

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:54 pm

On Brownhill,can't believe no action was taken. Hmmm

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:55 pm

because Brownhill just stood up, had it been the other way around Moutinhio would still be rolling around

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:55 pm

Should have been a straight red for refusing to give the ball back to Wolves

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:56 pm

Don't think he stamped on Brownhill but stamped at the ball inbetween his legs. Looked worse than it is and can see why Brownhill reacted as he did but VAR cleared it up quickly so obviously a non issue

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:57 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:55 pm
because Brownhill just stood up, had it been the other way around Moutinhio would still be rolling around

This ^^^^

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:59 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:56 pm
Don't think he stamped on Brownhill but stamped at the ball inbetween his legs. Looked worse than it is and can see why Brownhill reacted as he did but VAR cleared it up quickly so obviously a non issue

Violent conduct doesn’t actually have to cause harm. Westwood got a yellow for playing the ball after the ref had clearly blown (correctly), yet the stamp came after the ref had blown, and there was malice in the stamp so even if he didn’t get the player and got the ball - it is still violent conduct don’t you think?

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:59 pm

MOD: Removed unnecessary personal insult. Please debate in a civil manner

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:00 pm

The description 'stamp' says it all. Irrespective of whether or not he made contact.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:04 pm

Cost me a 117/1 bet builder, I had

Wood to score
6+ Wolves corners
Westwood to get a card
Moutinho to get a card

117.6/1

gutted

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:06 pm

Think Brownhill could’ve made more of it tbh, but looked to me like he “stamped” on the ball and no action necessary. If a player has the ball between his legs you’re entitled to try and win it back.

fanzone · Post by **fanzone** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:07 pm

Other way round and it's a red.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:09 pm

Zlatan wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:59 pm
Violent conduct doesn’t actually have to cause harm. Westwood got a yellow for playing the ball after the ref had clearly blown (correctly), yet the stamp came after the ref had blown, and there was malice in the stamp so even if he didn’t get the player and got the ball - it is still violent conduct don’t you think?

I do t think it was violent contact, I think he was trying to loosen the ball away and had to come at it from that angle. I'd have to see it again but I don't think he aimed his foot at Brownhill or was in danger of catching him cos Brownhill and the ball was static

As said looked like nothing to me to but that's just my opinion and maybe seeing it again could change it

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:12 pm

Not sure about this. He could have gone but he was trying to retrieve the ball which Brownhill was preventing him from doing. At the time I was happy for it not to be given and for the game to be concluded as quickly as possible!

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:15 pm

It was a first class stamp .

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:16 pm

Refs whistle had blown, like I said above Westwood was correctly penalised for kicking the ball away, there was malice in the stamp - should have seen red

huw.Y.WattfromWare · Post by **huw.Y.WattfromWare** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:19 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:15 pm
It was a first class stamp .

But he didn’t get Christmas Card.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:27 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:19 pm
But he didn’t get Christmas Card.

Bit further up and his Christmas nuts would have been ruined.

Stacky_claret · Post by **Stacky_claret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:28 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:12 pm
Not sure about this. He could have gone but he was trying to retrieve the ball which Brownhill was preventing him from doing. At the time I was happy for it not to be given and for the game to be concluded as quickly as possible!

You aren’t allowed to stamp on a player in order to get the ball back lol

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:31 pm

Stacky_claret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:28 pm
You aren’t allowed to stamp on a player in order to get the ball back lol

I know. I thought he was stamping on the ball, not on the player. That said, I’d need to see it back, but he couldn’t have argued had he been sent on his way.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:32 pm

Clear stamp and a straight red but Mason is a gutless ref who regularly bottled at giving us free kicks.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:33 pm

Lot of fuss (on here) over nothing. The player stamped on the ball, Brownhill reacted in the right way, a sort of ‘careful mate’, and the game continued.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:51 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:33 pm
Lot of fuss (on here) over nothing. The player stamped on the ball, Brownhill reacted in the right way, a sort of ‘careful mate’, and the game continued.

Shows how much opinion is divided on certain things and how difficult it is to referee, I agree with you but most of my mates were in uproar

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:53 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:33 pm
Lot of fuss (on here) over nothing. The player stamped on the ball, Brownhill reacted in the right way, a sort of ‘careful mate’, and the game continued.

Absolutely, I’d rather not have all contact zapped from the game. Moutinho wasn’t aggressive, trying to get the ball back and very apologetic. Nothing init, get on with the game.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:53 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:04 pm
Cost me a 117/1 bet builder, I had

Wood to score
6+ Wolves corners
Westwood to get a card
Moutinho to get a card

117.6/1

gutted

Karma

It serves you right for betting against the Clarets Juggernaut MACCA

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:55 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:53 pm
Karma

It serves you right for betting against the Clarets Juggernaut MACCA

I didnt back against us

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:59 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:55 pm
I didnt back against us

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:02 pm

To be fair he got the ball with the stamp.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:02 pm

Yet var looked at it and no action was taken, bizarre to say the least.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:44 pm

Went in from behind, studs first and knew he'd been a naughty, naughty boy.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:02 pm

A definite stamp. How else could it be described? A bit of a stamp or half a stamp? No wonder he was apologetic because he was expecting to be sent off. Very lucky but I'm sure it won't stop him doing it again when they are losing.

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:05 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:55 pm
because Brownhill just stood up, had it been the other way around Moutinhio would still be rolling around

Nailed it right there. Had he made an issue of it then they might have looked at it. The other way round Moutinho would have been rolling down onto the pitchside track holding his leg.

Realistically he was just trying to get the ball...risky but no intent to injure. No red for me although amazed he didn't get a yellow.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:12 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:53 pm
Moutinho wasn’t aggressive, trying to get the ball back and very apologetic. Nothing init, get on with the game.

Actually, I’ve seen it back quite a few times now, and it’s quite aggressive. He may not be an aggressive player typically but he could quite easily have seen red for this on another day.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:15 pm

Somethingfishy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:05 pm
Nailed it right there. Had he made an issue of it then they might have looked at it. The other way round Moutinho would have been rolling down onto the pitchside track holding his leg.

Realistically he was just trying to get the ball...risky but no intent to injure. No red for me although amazed he didn't get a yellow.

Think is, they did look at it which is more worrying that they deemed it “ok”

Even Mrs W commented on it and thought he’d be sent off and she doesn’t usually watch football

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:33 pm

No stamp for me. Went for ball.

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:56 pm

If it had been a Burnley player trying to get the ball back he would have been OFF

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:06 pm

It was an extremely dangerous and aggressive act. Should have been a red and he would have no complaints.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:12 pm

Happened to stamp to control the ball, caught Brownhill on the way by accident.
Perfect execution of a foul from the Portuguese school of gamesmanship. Not too harsh to get a card, but enough to be nasty. You could see it in his expression.

Why otherwise would you stamp to control when the balls between another players legs?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:47 pm

A stamp and should have been a red just like the elbow Brownhill got at Palace last season.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:29 am

Just a thought, but now VAR has come in, is retrospective action now ceased?

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:20 am

It’s time for clubs to be allowed to cite a player for violent play or for simulation. It works in rugby and has smartened up that game.