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Added time to added time

Post by Foulthrow » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:24 pm

Whenever Burnley are leading we always seem to face a significant chunk of added time to the ninety minutes. Every team exploits gamesmanship tactics when leading but we seemed to get punished where others don’t.

Tonight we had an extra 45 seconds added to an already long five minutes. At Arsenal it was something similar. Is there any way to check my theory that we are getting done over here?
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Post by conyoviejo » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:26 pm

We won both matches.

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Post by Rowls » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:26 pm

It's turtles all the way down
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Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:28 pm

No one likes us, we don't care utc's
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Post by Bosscat » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:29 pm

That extra 45 seconds was a killer wasn't it 😏

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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:30 pm

Foulthrow wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:24 pm
Whenever Burnley are leading we always seem to face a significant chunk of added time to the ninety minutes. Every team exploits gamesmanship tactics when leading but we seemed to get punished where others don’t.

Tonight we had an extra 45 seconds added to an already long five minutes. At Arsenal it was something similar. Is there any way to check my theory that we are getting done over here?
The 5 mins, on the board is a minimum. Without any further stoppages they could correctly play to 5mins 59secs.

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Re: Added time to added time

Post by bobinho » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:32 pm

Foulthrow wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:24 pm
Whenever Burnley are leading we always seem to face a significant chunk of added time to the ninety minutes. Every team exploits gamesmanship tactics when leading but we seemed to get punished where others don’t.

Tonight we had an extra 45 seconds added to an already long five minutes. At Arsenal it was something similar. Is there any way to check my theory that we are getting done over here?
Don't think there is any real way to check your theory. I think you are right... thing is, if we end up winning, no-one cares. Had we conceded tonite and against Arsenal in that extra extra time, those dismissing it would be having kittens right now.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:37 pm

Wasnt there a short stoppage in added on time? I remember thinking its gonna be a bit longer than 5 mins when it happened but cant remember what it was

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Post by Foulthrow » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:38 pm

bobinho wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:32 pm
Don't think there is any real way to check your theory. I think you are right... thing is, if we end up winning, no-one cares. Had we conceded tonite and against Arsenal in that extra extra time, those dismissing it would be having kittens right now.
Exactly!

When you see 3 minutes come up it dampens the enthusiasm of the losing side. Five minutes or more and it can be just the boost needed to push for that equaliser.

Dyche talks all the time about fine margins at this level. I don’t want arbitrary ones like this damaging Burnley.

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:03 pm

Was the VAR check for red not in injury time? Iv never understood people moaning about added time in added time, as far as I’m aware it’s always been a MINIMUM.

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Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:17 am

I’d prefer the time to be taken out of the hands of the ref like rugby. He still has yellow cards to use for time wasting.

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Post by Herts Clarets » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:33 am

Wasn't Jay's booking in added time?

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Post by Hibsclaret » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:39 am

I think Pope spent about 45 seconds on a goal kick. I don’t get why there is an inquest about added time when it is a minimum of x and up to the ref after that. Minimum means you don’t have to blow on exactly 5 mins.

There was a thread on here the other day about just 1 minute in the Liverpool 7 nil game. That was nonsense as I thought it was 30 seconds per restart after a goal....could have affected next goal bets and such like. They should have played more in that game...

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:10 am

In the end, made it hard for ourselves with the PK but the win and 3 points were the most important thing.

We were better this time, taking it to the corner twice. Correct decision by Wood. But both times he failed to get the ball under control and kicked it out himself :lol: Clearly still need to learn to take it there and keep it there!!

As for the time added on to added time, think that was fine as there was a stoppage. We’d be fuming if 5 minutes got added on and a long stoppage took a good chunk of it.

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Re: Added time to added time

Post by NewClaret » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:11 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:39 am
I think Pope spent about 45 seconds on a goal kick. I don’t get why there is an inquest about added time when it is a minimum of x and up to the ref after that. Minimum means you don’t have to blow on exactly 5 mins.

There was a thread on here the other day about just 1 minute in the Liverpool 7 nil game. That was nonsense as I thought it was 30 seconds per restart after a goal....could have affected next goal bets and such like. They should have played more in that game...
Didn’t know that about the restart. Is it 30 seconds per sub too?

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:13 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:39 am
I think Pope spent about 45 seconds on a goal kick.
I have to say, Pope is excellent at creating those breaks in play. So important to get ourselves reset and give the lads a breather when we’re under the cosh for 70 minutes!

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Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:21 am

Correct time should always be played after the full 90 & however that’s totted up is another debate within itself but you should always have what’s fair & reasonable determined by what’s happened throughout the 90 irrespective of winning/losing/drawing, my point which I unsuccessfully wanted to know if you take away that responsibility away from the referee who else gets that responsibility as someone needs to do it, the answer well the ref should always play the correct time, woefully fails as an answer because we are clearly seeing incorrect time is being added on, the Liverpool game & last nights being clear & obvious examples & there are many more.
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Post by Rileybobs » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:35 am

No problem with the added on time. I think the VAR check was within the initial added time, as was Pope's ridiculously drawn out goal kick. But I still don't understand why teams are allowed to take their time with a corner when the time has elapsed, knowing that the referee is giving them all the time they need to create the last chance of the game.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:36 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:11 am
Didn’t know that about the restart. Is it 30 seconds per sub too?
That’s my understanding, yes, but I’m sure there are people more qualified to confirm

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Post by Claretincraven » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:07 pm

Referees pile pressure on themselves. Consistency is the key. In the Palace v Liverpoolll game there were 4 second half goals and 6 substitutions. 1 minute added on. It's not the referees job to decide to finish a game early feeling sorry for a team. Titles and relegation can be decided on goal difference.
I expected 3 minutes max last night. I have no idea where 5 came from. As I say, provided there is consistency between games no one can have any complaints.
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Post by Hibsclaret » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:54 pm

Claretincraven wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:07 pm
Referees pile pressure on themselves. Consistency is the key. In the Palace v Liverpoolll game there were 4 second half goals and 6 substitutions. 1 minute added on. It's not the referees job to decide to finish a game early feeling sorry for a team. Titles and relegation can be decided on goal difference.
I expected 3 minutes max last night. I have no idea where 5 came from. As I say, provided there is consistency between games no one can have any complaints.
Spot on. If they can’t show consistency in a game that is 7 - 0 there really is no hope. Absolutely inexcusable to have 1 minute in the Liverpool game.

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Post by LordBob » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:31 pm

It seems to have been the norm for sometime I remember as a kid in the 60's being at Old Trafford and we were 2 - 0 up and left with a couple of minutes left so as to avoid the Manc thugs intent on nicking our scarves it was only when I was on the bus at Chorlton St that some guy with a radio told us it was a draw. Nothings changed UTC

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Post by Dodobdobodobo » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:58 pm

If Nick had taken the goal kick straight away the ref would have blown the whistle bang on 5 minutes!

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