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Re: Benson

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:18 pm

I thought he did ok. Nothing more though

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Re: Benson

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:19 pm

Agreed - out of his depth. Needs more gym time and U23 / cup football.
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Re: Benson

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:20 pm

Looked overawed today.

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Re: Benson

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:24 pm

Thought he was okay considering it was his full PL debut? Should get behind these young players.
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Re: Benson

Post by joey13 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:29 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:24 pm
Thought he was okay considering it was his full PL debut? Should get behind these young players.
It wasn’t his full PL debut

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Re: Benson

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:30 pm

They’re not children. Being honest about a player’s performance is not the same as ‘not getting behind them’
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Re: Benson

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:31 pm

Should get behind these young players - yes, but not when we’re scrapping for points in important games. A performance like today’s will have set him back a bit and his next big chance will only come from the bench this season.
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Re: Benson

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:32 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:29 pm
It wasn’t his full PL debut
That’s why I put a question mark. Wasn’t sure. When was full debut?

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Re: Benson

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:32 pm

He struggled today but wasn’t our worst player.

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Re: Benson

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:33 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:30 pm
They’re not children. Being honest about a player’s performance is not the same as ‘not getting behind them’
Apart from one loose pass first half (which Mee was also guilty of), what was so poor about his performance?

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Re: Benson

Post by joey13 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:34 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:32 pm
That’s why I put a question mark. Wasn’t sure. When was full debut?
Against Man City

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Re: Benson

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:36 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:31 pm
Should get behind these young players - yes, but not when we’re scrapping for points in important games. A performance like today’s will have set him back a bit and his next big chance will only come from the bench this season.
We should get behind them all the time, but especially when we’re scrapping for points.

Not his fault we’ve had injuries or he was called upon to play out of position.

Sure Dyche would only use him from the bench in normal circumstances, bar injuries, which was the case today.

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Re: Benson

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:36 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:34 pm
Against Man City
Forgot that. 👍🏻
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Re: Benson

Post by Zlatan » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:41 pm

He looked solid for most of the game, had one wayward pass, and I think that’s what people remember more that the efficiency of his play.

Should really get behind our players and not knock them.
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Re: Benson

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:45 pm

Reminded me on Brownhill when he first played on the right. Not his best position.
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Re: Benson

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:48 pm

Thought he was slow and dwelled too much on the ball throughout as well as being outmuscled. Again, criticism is allowed.

As for FactualFrank liking posts about getting behind the players after freely admitting he bet a sizeable wedge on us getting beat today, well, no comment
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Re: Benson

Post by Rowls » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:52 pm

It’s a tough ask for a lad of his age to come in and play out of position.

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Re: Benson

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:52 pm

Stephens looked much better when he came on. Has had stick on arriving here but was obviously not match fit. Will start on Tuesday if both McNeill and Brady are still out.
I know that it sounds harsh on the lad, but Benson is not good enough at this level.
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Re: Benson

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:55 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:52 pm
Stephens looked much better when he came on. Has had stick on arriving here but was obviously not match fit. Will start on Tuesday if both McNeill and Brady are still out.
I know that it sounds harsh on the lad, but Benson is not good enough at this level.
I'd have Jay on the wing if Brady/McNeil still out.

However, I have a feeling that Brady & McNeil simply weren't risked, with the 2 home games coming up.

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Re: Benson

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:59 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:52 pm
Stephens looked much better when he came on. Has had stick on arriving here but was obviously not match fit. Will start on Tuesday if both McNeill and Brady are still out.
I know that it sounds harsh on the lad, but Benson is not good enough at this level.
Agree entirely that Stephen’s looked sharper.

Not sure how you can form a judgment like that in a player on his second (thanks joey13) PL start whilst playing out of position. Seems very harsh.

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Re: Benson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:02 pm

In the second half there was a bit more fluidity to Benson Brownhill and Westwood, and I think Benson actually did pretty well second half before being subbed. In the first half he looked like it was a bit much for him , but a learning curve for the lad, probably just needed to start a bit quicker! I feel that if we had a right sided Taylor in the second half we would have scored a couple!
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Re: Benson

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:50 pm

Good player, looking to watching him mature and improve, same with Brownhill

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Re: Benson

Post by Top Claret » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:58 pm

The lad was thrown in at the deep end today and was definitely playing out of position.

We need to see a lot more of him before we can call him out, one way or tother

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Re: Benson

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:00 pm

We have to integrate these younger players, and as fans we need to show a bit of understanding towards the inexperienced lads.
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Re: Benson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:58 pm

Without setting the field alight - Benson tonight stuck to the shape, did the dirty work well, worked hard and kept his head! Very much an understated performance in the Hendrick mould when he was out right!

Well done Josh!

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Re: Benson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:00 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:58 pm
Without setting the field alight - Benson tonight stuck to the shape, did the dirty work well, worked hard and kept his head! Very much an understated performance in the Hendrick mould when he was out right!

Well done Josh!
Those two five yard passes really set the world on fire, lad needs to be loaned out, Stephens must be ****** off to say the least!

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Re: Benson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:01 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:00 pm
Those two five yard passes really set the world on fire, lad needs to be loaned out, Stephens must be ****** off to say the least!
Read again Einstein

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Re: Benson

Post by Murger » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:04 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:58 pm
Without setting the field alight - Benson tonight stuck to the shape, did the dirty work well, worked hard and kept his head! Very much an understated performance in the Hendrick mould when he was out right!

Well done Josh!
I get he's a young 'un and is playing out of position, but he was beaten far too easily on numerous occasions.

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Re: Benson

Post by MDWat » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:05 pm

Considering the type of game it was, I thought he was fine.

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Re: Benson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:05 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:01 pm
Read again Einstein
Are you his dad?

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Re: Benson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:07 pm

Never played in that role before you have to remember, and given his mistake with the penalty against Wolves you have to give him the benefit of the doubt! The more he does it the better he will be. Hendrick was exactly the same. Never a world beater in that position, but stuck to it and performed well for the side without tearing any trees up.

A no thrills role.

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Re: Benson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:09 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:05 pm
Are you his dad?
Given your two responses I’m surprised your dad has given you this much time online tonight.

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Re: Benson

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:11 pm

Needs to go out on loan. Not ready but we are just low on bodies.

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Re: Benson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:12 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:09 pm
Given your two responses I’m surprised your dad has given you this much time online tonight.
Your a bit confused aren’t you never mind, your lad will have better games go and have a lie down :roll:

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Re: Benson

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:12 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:58 pm
Without setting the field alight - Benson tonight stuck to the shape, did the dirty work well, worked hard and kept his head! Very much an understated performance in the Hendrick mould when he was out right!

Well done Josh!
I agree, I thought he was very good tonight and there were some flashes of composure on the ball. I think you could tell at times he was not used to playing on the right hand side, but I think that will come with experience. We have got to remember not only are these his first few premier league games, he has played very limited league football.

Glad he’s getting game time I think he will get better and better

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Re: Benson

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:13 pm

:) The problem at the moment is we have no other alternative wide right except Brownhill and he is holding everything together in midfield with his dynamism

Still thought Bardsley would have been a better option in 2nd half

But 3 points :)

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Re: Benson

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:15 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:11 pm
Needs to go out on loan. Not ready but we are just low on bodies.
TBF there may not be that opportunity with the Covid situation as it is. (oops, am I allowed to mention that? :o )

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Re: Benson

Post by TsarBomba » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:17 pm

He worked hard and stuck to his task. Struggled with the pressing, and when to close the opposition down or hold his position.

He’s in at the deep end and being played out of position.
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Re: Benson

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:17 pm

Spot on boatshed.
Once he fills out physically , this experience of PL football will be invaluable for him. He was part of a winning Burnley side tonight so well done to him
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Re: Benson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:17 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:12 pm
Your a bit confused aren’t you never mind, your lad will have better games go and have a lie down :roll:
Bless

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Re: Benson

Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:18 pm

Benson needs the game time he's getting here.
He's normally in centre mid, so he is playing out of position anyway.
He hasn't disgraced himself in either of the last 2 games, and some senior players made far more mistakes than him tonight.
He's only going to get better.
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Re: Benson

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:19 pm

Anyone criticising our young lads in midfield must be Joshing
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Re: Benson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:19 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:17 pm
Bless
It took you so long to think of that ? :lol:

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Re: Benson

Post by JohnMac » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:22 pm

Some of these Premier League youngsters come in and look great because of the way their team play and the players around them.

We are asking a lot of ours to come in and play a predominantly defensive game and constantly turn back towards our own goal.
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Re: Benson

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:24 pm

Struggled a bit against a strong physical side but did ok.

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Re: Benson

Post by ecc » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:25 pm

Give the lad a break. He's learning in a tough way but it will hopefully see him push on significantly given time.

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Re: Benson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:26 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:19 pm
It took you so long to think of that ? :lol:
May come as a surprise to you, but posting on here isn’t the most pressing matter of my evening. :lol:

However, it’s a board for opinions and that’s why we are here after all. Given his circumstances , I thought he did well.
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Re: Benson

Post by Top Claret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:26 pm

None of our midfield look up to much to be fair as they are just told to sit in.

Once we scored we showed little intent of wanting to extend our lead. We sat in with 2 banks of four and Sheffield United never really looked like scoring

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Re: Benson

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:27 pm

Some terrible comments about Benson tonight. You’d soon be moaning if the young players weren’t being brought through and given game time.

It’s a process and this is only the very start of his. Give it a rest.
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Re: Benson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:28 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:26 pm
May come as a surprise to you, but posting on here isn’t the most pressing matter of my evening. :lol:

However, it’s a board for opinions and that’s why we are beer after all. Given his circumstances , I thought he did well.
You know nothing about football if your comparing a lad like Benson to Hendrick who is a full international, I’d say you are deluded and wrong, put as many smileys as you want , Ronaldo must be like a god to you, no?
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