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If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:57 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Would they also need to buy Son Heung-Min to ensure they get the best out of Kane, or would he still be as effective without him?

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:59 pm
by Hibsclaret
They would cost more than the value of BFC...

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:04 pm
by Vino blanco
Kane scores plenty of goals for England without Son.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:04 pm
by tiger76
Good question Kane will score goals wherever he goes, however it can't be denied that his partnership with Son has improved both of them, and Spurs would find it incredibly difficult to replace either if one decided to move.

Kane's overall game has massively improved this season and last, if he doesn't score he usually assists now, which in the past wasn't always the case.

How much the pair would cost is tough to gauge, but I'd wager you wouldn't get much change out of £300m, and that's possibly being conservative.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:08 pm
by Zlatan
Does anyone else think Kane says to himself on the pitch “on me head Son”

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:13 pm
by elwaclaret
Personally I’d take Son before Kane. Think he is far harder for them to replace, good as Kane is.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:25 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
tiger76 wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:04 pm
Good question Kane will score goals wherever he goes, however it can't be denied that his partnership with Son has improved both of them, and Spurs would find it incredibly difficult to replace either if one decided to move.

Kane's overall game has massively improved this season and last, if he doesn't score he usually assists now, which in the past wasn't always the case.

How much the pair would cost is tough to gauge, but I'd wager you wouldn't get much change out of £300m, and that's possibly being conservative.
£300m isn't bad though if their form was to carry on and they fired a team to multiple league titles and European success.
I think it would be money better spent buying those two than Messi for example.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:27 pm
by BurnleyFC
I’m going to get shot down here, but I don’t think Harry Kane is a good ‘footballer’, per se.

He’s a terrific goal scorer, mind, but I really don’t
enjoy watching him play.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:30 pm
by tiger76
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:25 pm
£300m isn't bad though if their form was to carry on and they fired a team to multiple league titles and European success.
I think it would be money better spent buying those two than Messi for example.
Kane is 27, and Son is 28, so absolutely they'd both represent better value than Messi, who great as he is isn't getting any younger.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:35 pm
by tim_noone
Zlatan wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:08 pm
Does anyone else think Kane says to himself on the pitch “on me head Son”
More than Able I'd say...

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:39 pm
by fatboy47
Poor man's Ashley Barnes

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:46 pm
by Roosterbooster
BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:27 pm
I’m going to get shot down here, but I don’t think Harry Kane is a good ‘footballer’, per se.

He’s a terrific goal scorer, mind, but I really don’t
enjoy watching him play.
I used to agree with you. Thought he was overrated. And greedy. But he has matured and improved so much, I think Son is better, but Kane had easily become world class now

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:49 pm
by Dyched
Hey Pacey my mate if you’re lurking about. GodIsADeeJay81 is a bit shy about these things but what he means is if we can only afford Harry in January will we get through until the summer until we get Sonny in as well.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:58 pm
by Wellsy1882
Kane will never be a world beater
Not at spurs anyway

Id also take Son over Kane

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:59 pm
by tarkys_ears
Vardy Drinkwater innit

Vardy did alright without him

He however...

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:28 am
by FactualFrank
tiger76 wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:30 pm
Kane is 27, and Son is 28, so absolutely they'd both represent better value than Messi, who great as he is isn't getting any younger.
Now that would represent good value - a player who does get younger! :)

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:41 am
by Terrier
A much bigger question would be, " who do we drop "

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:49 am
by Gordaleman
Terrier wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:41 am
A much bigger question would be, " who do we drop "
Don't need to drop anyone. He can take Vydra's place on the bench, as it looks like he'll be leaving. :lol:

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:57 am
by Top Claret
We would go tits up if we tried to buy Kane

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:53 am
by arise_sir_charge
Kane has become an outstanding footballer. Always finds space, wonderful passer of a ball and a goal machine.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:30 pm
by Devils_Advocate
You got to also factor in that Kane gets an absolute battering from the centre backs who are all over him. The amount of times I see defenders coming over the top of him it surprises me how little protection he gets from the refs.

That said he's a big strong lad and manages to hold them off and keep control of the ball most of the time

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:38 pm
by SonofPog
Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:30 pm
You got to also factor in that Kane gets an absolute battering from the centre backs who are all over him. The amount of times I see defenders coming over the top of him it surprises me how little protection he gets from the refs....
Its deliberate by Kane and will seriously injure someone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thwA2wbOzYg

(I'm thinking you might be referencing this but not sure)

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm
by Dyched
Fishing with grenades does work after all :lol:

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:45 pm
by Whitgord
I’ve been impressed with the defensive work both Son and Kane do as well. They often are found inside their own 18 yard box helping out.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm
by Rileybobs
BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:27 pm
I’m going to get shot down here, but I don’t think Harry Kane is a good ‘footballer’, per se.

He’s a terrific goal scorer, mind, but I really don’t
enjoy watching him play.
Not a good footballer? He’s one of the best footballers in the Premier League.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:03 pm
by Socrates
Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:30 pm
Kane gets an absolute battering from the centre backs who are all over him. The amount of times I see defenders coming over the top of him

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:24 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Dyched wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 pm
Fishing with grenades does work after all :lol:
Definitely does, I set one off yesterday and it was quite an explosion on here :lol:

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:37 pm
by BurnleyFC
Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:47 pm
Not a good footballer? He’s one of the best footballers in the Premier League.
In your opinion.

In my opinion there are literally dozens of better footballers than him. His own team have at least two players that are better footballers.

He’s probably the best goal scorer, though, although Vardy gives him a good run for his money.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:00 pm
by Rileybobs
BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:37 pm
In your opinion.

In my opinion there are literally dozens of better footballers than him. His own team have at least two players that are better footballers.

He’s probably the best goal scorer, though, although Vardy gives him a good run for his money.
Well yes, it is my opinion, but you can’t be serious by saying that Harry Kane is not a good footballer.

I presume that you think that Son is one of the better players at Spurs, but who is the other?

Kane is probably the first name on Spurs’ team sheet, he’s definitely the first name on England’s team sheet. He would get into almost every side in world football. To suggest he isn’t a good footballer is just ridiculous.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:17 pm
by BurnleyFC
Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:00 pm
Well yes, it is my opinion, but you can’t be serious by saying that Harry Kane is not a good footballer.

I presume that you think that Son is one of the better players at Spurs, but who is the other?

Kane is probably the first name on Spurs’ team sheet, he’s definitely the first name on England’s team sheet. He would get into almost every side in world football. To suggest he isn’t a good footballer is just ridiculous.
I think that both Son and Gareth Bale are better footballers than Kane. Not necessarily as effective (although you can’t really argue about Bale’s credentials) but better players nonetheless.

You’re probably right that Harry Kane would get into most teams in the world, though, because he is very effective and is guaranteed to score goals. I just don’t enjoy watching him.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:19 pm
by Rileybobs
BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:17 pm
I think that both Son and Gareth Bale are better footballers than Kane. Not necessarily as effective (although you can’t really argue about Bale’s credentials) but better players nonetheless.

You’re probably right that Harry Kane would get into most teams in the world, though, because he is very effective and is guaranteed to score goals. I just don’t enjoy watching him.
Fair enough. I think I get what you're saying, but goalscoring ability and effectiveness are integral parts of being a good footballer. Kane is currently a better footballer than Bale, which is why he plays whenever he is fit and Bale sits on the bench.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:27 pm
by arise_sir_charge
See, I love watching Kane, especially now he’s dripping deeper and creating chances for fun.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:31 pm
by BurnleyFC
Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:19 pm
Fair enough. I think I get what you're saying, but goalscoring ability and effectiveness are integral parts of being a good footballer. Kane is currently a better footballer than Bale, which is why he plays whenever he is fit and Bale sits on the bench.
It’s a strange one with Bale. I’m convinced there’s still a world class footballer in there because he still has all the physical attributes, but he really hasn’t featured or contributed anywhere near enough this season.

Whether that’s down to a lack of fitness, a lack of desire or Mourinho is anybody’s guess.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:34 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:31 pm
It’s a strange one with Bale. I’m convinced there’s still a world class footballer in there because he still has all the physical attributes, but he really hasn’t featured or contributed anywhere near enough this season.

Whether that’s down to a lack of fitness, a lack of desire or Mourinho is anybody’s guess.
I think with Bale he's just so out of condition, he's picking up niggly strains like players do when they return from injury and he was injured when they signed him.
That's why he's not really starting games.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:50 pm
by Untinted Glasses
Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:19 pm
Fair enough. I think I get what you're saying, but goalscoring ability and effectiveness are integral parts of being a good footballer. Kane is currently a better footballer than Bale, which is why he plays whenever he is fit and Bale sits on the bench.
bale isn’t competing for Kane’s place.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:51 pm
by Untinted Glasses
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:34 pm
I think with Bale he's just so out of condition, he's picking up niggly strains like players do when they return from injury and he was injured when they signed him.
That's why he's not really starting games.
Ok thanks Jose

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:51 pm
by Rileybobs
Untinted Glasses wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:50 pm
bale isn’t competing for Kane’s place.
I didn't say he was.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:53 pm
by Untinted Glasses
Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:19 pm
Kane is currently a better footballer than Bale, which is why he plays whenever he is fit and Bale sits on the bench.
Ok then I totally misunderstood that

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:41 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:17 pm
I think that both Son and Gareth Bale are better footballers than Kane. Not necessarily as effective (although you can’t really argue about Bale’s credentials) but better players nonetheless.

You’re probably right that Harry Kane would get into most teams in the world, though, because he is very effective and is guaranteed to score goals. I just don’t enjoy watching him.
This would have been last years Harry Kane? This season he’s dropping off into the void, drifting left, right, creating assists, almost impossible to track.....”just” a goal scorer?

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:19 pm
by Hibsclaret
There’s a lot of nonsense on here written on this board at times but you have someone who has scored 153 prem goals in 226 games being described as not a good footballer per se....

This season he has 10 goals and 11 assists already...

If you think he is not a good footballer per se or don’t enjoy watching him you need to find another sport to enjoy watching tbh

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:26 pm
by Spijed
Hibsclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:19 pm
There’s a lot of nonsense on here written on this board at times but you have someone who has scored 153 prem goals in 226 games being described as not a good footballer per se....

This season he has 10 goals and 11 assists already...

If you think he is not a good footballer per se or don’t enjoy watching him you need to find another sport to enjoy watching tbh
I think there was an issue in the season Leicester won the title in that Kane is a greedy bugger and had he more awareness of his teammates, rather than always trying to score, Spurs would have got more points, and ultimately won the league.

Re: If a club was to buy Harry Kane..

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:38 pm
by Hibsclaret
Spijed wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:26 pm
I think there was an issue in the season Leicester won the title in that Kane is a greedy bugger and had he more awareness of his teammates, rather than always trying to score, Spurs would have got more points, and ultimately won the league.
He only scored 25 goals that season and only 1 assist...he has definitely improved in his assists based on how he plays in the new system...very harsh to blame him for a season’s failure when Leicester won at a canter...he wasn’t one of the numptys that got sent off at Chelsea when they needed to win for example so there were a lot of other players more responsible on Spurs failing (again) than their best player tbh