• SD press conference at 4pm

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:58 pm**

Should be interesting...

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:14 pm**

Has said we have a couple of Covid 19 cases...

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:18 pm**

“We have got a couple of cases (COVID-19) which will affect us over the coming days. We’re having to be wise and re-pod the players, to stop any future trouble”

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:19 pm**

Jack Cork has played a few games, he's making good progress, Charlie Taylor, Dwight McNeil, Jay Rodriguez are all making good progress and been training, along with Matej Vydra.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:21 pm**

On his discussions with Pace

“We had a good, open discussion with the owners, I think there will be some finance to use, the impression is to continue the building process and not cheat the system by throwing money at it”

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:22 pm**

Reserve game in the week called off due to Covid

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:22 pm**

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:22 pm
Reserve game in the week called off due to Covid

I'm assuming that was an arranged behind closed doors friendly

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:24 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:22 pm
I'm assuming that was an arranged behind closed doors friendly

Yes, I wasnt very accurate with my wording there Tony

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:24 pm**

“January is a very tough window, whether you’ve got money or not. There’s a couple of things we’ve talked about, but I’m not banking on it”

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:25 pm**

On the FA CUP: "It still counts, it just doesn't count in the running of the football club, but the emotion counts and is still there."

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:27 pm**

How long will the players need to isolate for? Is it shorter than 10 days, as they can be tested again sooner?

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:30 pm**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:27 pm
How long will the players need to isolate for? Is it shorter than 10 days, as they can be tested again sooner?

Taken from boden
“We’re affected already (for this weekend), it’s probable it affects the next two games, we get tested again on Friday so we’ll see what that brings.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:33 pm**

Reecey1987 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:30 pm
Taken from boden
“We’re affected already (for this weekend), it’s probable it affects the next two games, we get tested again on Friday so we’ll see what that brings.

Cheers. Guess the question is, who the two players are. Was there any mention of McNeil in the injury update?

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:33 pm**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:33 pm
Cheers. Guess the question is, who the two players are. Was there any mention of McNeil in the injury update?

I think the couple then became several

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:34 pm**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:33 pm
Cheers. Guess the question is, who the two players are. Was there any mention of McNeil in the injury update?

“Corky has played a couple of games now, he’s making progress, as are Charlie Taylor, Dwight McNeil and Jay Rod, and Matej is back training with us”

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:35 pm**

Which suggests it's none of them.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:35 pm**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:33 pm
Cheers. Guess the question is, who the two players are. Was there any mention of McNeil in the injury update?

Way up the thread from me with Cork, Taylor, McNeil, Vydra, Rodriguez.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:40 pm**

On JBG: "He's made real good progress, he's played a couple of reserve games and he's certainly in contention and in our thinking."

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:41 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:33 pm
I think the couple then became several

So several players have tested positive?

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:47 pm**

Sounds like JBG, Cork and Vydra are fit, Taylor, McNeil and Jay aren't yet.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:51 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:41 pm
So several players have tested positive?

That's how I've read it

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:54 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:24 pm
“January is a very tough window, whether you’ve got money or not. There’s a couple of things we’ve talked about, but I’m not banking on it”

Classic Dyche! Nothing changes does it.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:54 pm**

Winstonswhite wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:54 pm
Classic Dyche! Nothing changes does it.

Nothing at all

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:55 pm**

I really thought he would be more optimistic about January signings.

If anything it sounded like nothing at all had changed. Not expecting anything this window after that.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:56 pm**

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:55 pm
I really thought he would be more optimistic about January signings.

If anything it sounded like nothing at all had changed. Not expecting anything this window after that.

he said he's not banking on it - I suspect we will likely get a couple in

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:57 pm**

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:55 pm
I really thought he would be more optimistic about January signings.

If anything it sounded like nothing at all had changed. Not expecting anything this window after that.

Yeah cos the best way to approach the window would be to say we are going to throw loads of cash at it (even if it was true) and be bent over by every club...

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:00 pm**

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:55 pm
I really thought he would be more optimistic about January signings.

If anything it sounded like nothing at all had changed. Not expecting anything this window after that.

Are we going to rely on JBG and Robbie being fit? Surely not.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:05 pm**

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:55 pm
I really thought he would be more optimistic about January signings.

If anything it sounded like nothing at all had changed. Not expecting anything this window after that.

the last thing I would expect him to say is "I had a great meeting, we are going to spend whatever we want" - other clubs aren't daft

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:05 pm**

I guess SD is being cautious re new recruits, ie "I believe it when I see it".

I hope though he is not putting a barrier in with his usual "I believe in the current squad! ". If this happens and he resists new players and we go down, the new owners will be be really hacked off

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:07 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:54 pm
Nothing at all

The “I can only make recommendations / it takes money / the chairman and the board sign the cheques” door has now been closed, so a new one opens...

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:31 pm**

I don’t think there will be much transfer activity at all.

The gloomy Covid outlook and high numbers of infections is pointing to a significant break in the second half of the season (maybe until March). The further loss of income and potential loss of tv money may cause a rethink by the Chairman and his board until the summer as they won’t want to pay high wages to new recruits who aren’t playing.

Also the manager’s success is achieved by getting the maximum effort and commitment from the players by forming a tight knit, happy squad. He will be very cautious about rocking the boat halfway through a season, particularly with a “stellar” signing. Imo he will be advising the Chairman that he is content to press on with the existing squad to salvage the all important Prem. status. The Chairman will take this advice and will support the manager by keeping his team happy - especially the players that are likely to be targeted by others - Tarks, McNeill, Pope etc.

Therefore any new faces are likely to be replacements (for players leaving for silly money) or ones for the future.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:35 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:25 pm
On the FA CUP: "It still counts, it just doesn't count in the running of the football club, but the emotion counts and is still there."

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:38 pm**

1.8 million for winning the final. He has a point.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:42 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:38 pm
1.8 million for winning the final. He has a point.

Wonder what the prize money would need to be to see it really matter financially? £10m?

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:43 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:42 pm
Wonder what the prize money would need to be to see it really matter financially? £10m?

Bigger prize money and a CL group stage place would sort it.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:49 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:38 pm
1.8 million for winning the final. He has a point.

Less than the difference one place in the PL.table makes

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:58 pm**

As Mike Garlick did all the transfer negotiations before I can imagine a scene something like this may have taken place at Turf Moor.

Alan Pace: Mike Hi, have you got a minute?
Mike Garlick: Of course Alan, the only reason I'm still using the Chairman's office is so that I can be here to help "transition".
AP: Right, yes. Listen, I've spoken with Sean and he tells me that there's a great young player at Sherwood Forest called Joe Worrell. I ran the data and checked the stats and we feel he's under valued and capable of stepping up to a higher level.
MG: Ah right Worrell, I remember that. We bid for him not long ago.
AP: Right, so listen, we believe Forest are asking for 9 million and we see that as good value. Obviously I've never overseen a transfer negotiation here before so I wanted your advice. What did you do last time?
MG: Offered them three, told them it was take it or leave it and bid two million for a rival player to show them that we had other irons in the fire.
AP: OK, that's interesting. But it didn't work.
MG: No...but if you throw enough **** at enough fans some will still buy a season ticket. If it was still up to me it would be a toss up between going back in with 3 million again or chance your arm with a lower bid, you never know they might be desperate.
AP: Okay.. and if that doesn't work?
MG: Think up a list of complicated add-ons that will never have to be paid. That'll make them think they're getting a better deal.
AP: Interesting. Do you have the number for someone at Forest?
MG: Of course. Would you like me to make the call?
AP: Thanks for the offer Mike but I think it might be better for my "learning curve" if I handle this one on my own.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:00 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:43 pm
Bigger prize money and a CL group stage place would sort it.

Agree, CL spot in particular would transform it

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:04 pm**

dibraidio wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:58 pm
As Mike Garlick did all the transfer negotiations before I can imagine a scene something like this may have taken place at Turf Moor.

Alan Pace: Mike Hi, have you got a minute?
Mike Garlick: Of course Alan, the only reason I'm still using the Chairman's office is so that I can be here to help "transition".
AP: Right, yes. Listen, I've spoken with Sean and he tells me that there's a great young player at Sherwood Forest called Joe Worrell. I ran the data and checked the stats and we feel he's under valued and capable of stepping up to a higher level.
MG: Ah right Worrell, I remember that. We bid for him not long ago.
AP: Right, so listen, we believe Forest are asking for 9 million and we see that as good value. Obviously I've never overseen a transfer negotiation here before so I wanted your advice. What did you do last time?
MG: Offered them three, told them it was take it or leave it and bid two million for a rival player to show them that we had other irons in the fire.
AP: OK, that's interesting. But it didn't work.
MG: No...but if you throw enough **** at enough fans some will still buy a season ticket. If it was still up to me it would be a toss up between going back in with 3 million again or chance your arm with a lower bid, you never know they might be desperate.
AP: Okay.. and if that doesn't work?
MG: Think up a list of complicated add-ons that will never have to be paid. That'll make them think they're getting a better deal.
AP: Interesting. Do you have the number for someone at Forest?
MG: Of course. Would you like me to make the call?
AP: Thanks for the offer Mike but I think it might be better for my "learning curve" if I handle this one on my own.

At which point AP heads off to call Forest's top man, who he understands is the Sheriff of Nottingham...

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:09 pm**

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:49 pm
Less than the difference one place in the PL.table makes

You can't measure history, tradition and romance with a £ sign, but that's the gritty reality of 'modern' football and how the FA Cup has to be viewed in the whole scheme of things.
It's telling that a lot of clubs' highest historic record attendances are in the FA Cup, now the crowds in the early-ish rounds look more like those for pre-season friendlies and often with an atmosphere to match.
FA Cup Final day TV coverage used to start at about 9am on both channels and was a national event, now it starts about 10 minutes before a 5.30pm kick off. I know the world was a very different place back then and that kind of attention and impact could just never happen again, but it's still a real shame that what was once such a treasured part of the game is now to some clubs not much more than an inconvenience.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:17 pm**

The 1960 championship is priceless in terms of £s believe you me, I didn’t realise it at the time but it has got more important over time. Aged 75 years!

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:18 pm**

cricketfield73 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:09 pm
You can't measure history, tradition and romance with a £ sign, but that's the gritty reality of 'modern' football and how the FA Cup has to be viewed in the whole scheme of things.
It's telling that a lot of clubs' highest historic record attendances are in the FA Cup, now the crowds in the early-ish rounds look more like those for pre-season friendlies and often with an atmosphere to match.
FA Cup Final day TV coverage used to start at about 9am on both channels and was a national event, now it starts about 10 minutes before a 5.30pm kick off. I know the world was a very different place back then and that kind of attention and impact could just never happen again, but it's still a real shame that what was once such a treasured part of the game is now to some clubs not much more than an inconvenience.

FA Cup Final day used to be my favourite sporting day of the year. I haven't watched it live for years now.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:18 pm**

Winstonswhite wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:54 pm
Classic Dyche! Nothing changes does it.

Yes, something has changed - They are talking !

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:30 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:05 pm
the last thing I would expect him to say is "I had a great meeting, we are going to spend whatever we want" - other clubs aren't daft

That’s a bit over the top. Instead of being the usual negative self.
He could have said something like, I had a positive meeting with the chairmen and he has re affirmed his interest in improving the club this window. I think that would have got us all excited and not said anything about actual figures

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:44 pm**

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:30 pm
That’s a bit over the top. Instead of being the usual negative self.
He could have said something like, I had a positive meeting with the chairmen and he has re affirmed his interest in improving the club this window. I think that would have got us all excited and not said anything about actual figures

Why should he say anything other than what he said? He expressed his own feelings, he doesn't need to do anything other than that. He manages a football club which has just been taken over by new owners and that is as far as it goes at this moment in time.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:47 pm**

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:04 pm
At which point AP heads off to call Forest's top man, who he understands is the Sheriff of Nottingham...

If we end up with Kevin Costner at CB there was a severe communications breakdown

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:50 pm**

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:30 pm
That’s a bit over the top. Instead of being the usual negative self.
He could have said something like, I had a positive meeting with the chairmen and he has re affirmed his interest in improving the club this window. I think that would have got us all excited and not said anything about actual figures

yeah I understand what you are saying in terms of "displaying enthusiasm" - but for me that is part of the act, he'll know what's happening. I just think what you said is all a bit cliche 'football manager' game and unnecessary at this stage, just my opinion though

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:08 pm**

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:47 pm
If we end up with Kevin Costner at CB there was a severe communications breakdown

I was going to post he asked for Alan Rickman but he is sadly no longer with us...

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:28 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:18 pm
FA Cup Final day used to be my favourite sporting day of the year. I haven't watched it live for years now.

Absolutely - as a young lad I used to witness a whole day of drinking fun and games where my dad and his mates used to all get together with all the kids and throw a party to watch the game at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon. Those were the days.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:31 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:56 pm
he said he's not banking on it - I suspect we will likely get a couple in

What are you saying then ? if the new owners were in place May 2020 we would have been far more active in the summer transfer window ? thats when we needed the boost, now we virtually have a full squad to play and pick from and have a "reasonable" points tally so why the urgency now ?

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