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Loans - Arsenal

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:37 pm

Arsenal have taken out a "short-term" £120m corporate loan from the Bank of England to help offset the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic.


or is it to pay off Mesut Ozil?

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Re: Loans - Arsenal

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:40 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:37 pm
Arsenal have taken out a "short-term" £120m corporate loan from the Bank of England to help offset the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic.


or is it to pay off Mesut Ozil?
at less than 1% interest - why wouldn't you if you could, we can't btw, instead our owners have to use the likes of MSD Holdings at a substantial multiple of that rate - the joys of being big six and already carrying hundreds of millions in debt

It should be remembered that Kroenke's bought up at lot of debt recently to bring the costs down at the club, this will help the transition of that to a new lender without it actually being allowed to be used for that purpose

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:49 pm

This is a really short term loan - has to be paid back in May - though there is growing expectation that the BoE will roll these loans over for another year - next Premier League central payment is February, from a cash flow perspective

this is what the Telegraph have to say on the loan

Arsenal to take £120m loan from Bank of England to help through Covid crisis
SAM DEAN JANUARY 07, 2021

Arsenal have taken out a short-term £120 million loan from the Bank of England as they continue to navigate the financial problems created by the pandemic.

The loan is designed to help the club’s cash flow issues, rather than provide manager Mikel Arteta with transfer funds, and follows similar moves by Tottenham Hotspur and the Football Association last year.

Arsenal are the Premier League club most financially impacted by playing behind closed doors as matchday income makes up a higher proportion of their revenues than any other side in the top division.

Last year they announced plans to make 55 redundancies across the club amid concerns over the long-term impact of the coronavirus pandemic on their finances.

The £120m loan comes after it was confirmed that Arsenal met the criteria set by the Bank of England for the Covid Corporate Financing Facility (CCFF), and is repayable in May this year along with an undisclosed amount of interest.

The CCFF is designed to help businesses “bridge coronavirus disruption to their cash flows” and is available to companies who make significant contributions to the British economy.

“This is a similar approach to that taken by a wide variety of major organisations across many industries including sport,” the club said in a statement.

It follows a loan provided to Arsenal last summer by the club’s owners, Kroenke Sports & Entertainment, which enabled them to refinance the debt on the Emirates Stadium.

In the summer, Tottenham secured a £175m loan from the Bank of England that was repayable with a 0.5 per cent interest rate. The FA has also taken out a £175m loan from the Bank of England.

The Arsenal Supporters’ Trust last year published an analysis of the club’s finances which predicted that the club could lose around £144m over the year if all games are played behind closed doors this season.

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Re: Loans - Arsenal

Post by NewClaret » Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:57 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:40 pm
at less than 1% interest - why wouldn't you if you could, we can't btw, instead our owners have to use the likes of MSD Holdings at a substantial multiple of that rate - the joys of being big six and already carrying hundreds of millions in debt

It should be remembered that Kroenke's bought up at lot of debt recently to bring the costs down at the club, this will help the transition of that to a new lender without it actually being allowed to be used for that purpose
Whether it’s 1% or 10% though, it still needs paying back. Assuming they took it because they needed it to cover some costs, how are they going to repay it?

Presumably they’ll have to issue more equity to Kroenke or others.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:01 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:57 pm
Whether it’s 1% or 10% though, it still needs paying back. Assuming they took it because they needed it to cover some costs, how are they going to repay it?

Presumably they’ll have to issue more equity to Kroenke or others.
Only Chelsea and Man City of the big 6 haven't taken any credit out as a result of Covid - owners will have lent them funds though

as i said in the next post there is a growing expectation that the loans will be rolled over by the BoE as the lockdowns continue - this facility was created by the BoE during the first lockdown and was to last a year - there was no expectation then of a 2nd, 3rd of God forbid a 4th lockdown

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Re: Loans - Arsenal

Post by NewClaret » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:12 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:01 pm
Only Chelsea and Man City of the big 6 haven't taken any credit out as a result of Covid - owners will have lent them funds though

as i said in the next post there is a growing expectation that the loans will be rolled over by the BoE as the lockdowns continue - this facility was created by the BoE during the first lockdown and was to last a year - there was no expectation then of a 2nd, 3rd of God forbid a 4th lockdown
True, but somewhere down the line will need repaying. I think transfer fees and players wages are going to take a big hit short-term.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:20 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:12 pm
True, but somewhere down the line will need repaying. I think transfer fees and players wages are going to take a big hit short-term.
On that we can agree

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Post by Zlatan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:20 pm

It’s not really a level playing field is it?

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:21 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:20 pm
It’s not really a level playing field is it?
It never has been

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Re: Loans - Arsenal

Post by Zlatan » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:24 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:21 pm
It never has been
BoE sponsored gap widening... shouldn’t be allowed IMO.

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Post by Leisure » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:29 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:49 pm
The CCFF is designed to help businesses “bridge coronavirus disruption to their cash flows” and is available to companies who make significant contributions to the British economy.
So just how do Arsenal make a significant contribution to the British economy?
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Re: Loans - Arsenal

Post by NewClaret » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:35 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:20 pm
On that we can agree
Will be interesting to see how desperate some Championship clubs have become this window!

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:46 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:35 pm
Will be interesting to see how desperate some Championship clubs have become this window!
I think they will try to keep the Price high until the last minute

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Post by Nonayforever » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:56 pm

Leisure wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:29 pm
So just how do Arsenal make a significant contribution to the British economy?
It keeps all the highly stung southern moaners in one place so the rest of London can enjoy themselves.
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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:11 pm

Leisure wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:29 pm
So just how do Arsenal make a significant contribution to the British economy?
comes down to the number of people they employee and the business that is generated off the back of their presence, which will be £600m+ a year in pre-covid times

I have posted a fair bit about the economic contribution of football clubs to their area region over the years on the MMT thread - 3 years ago Liverpool showed their Champions League fixtures alone contributed over £400m to the Merseyside economy in the season they lost to Madrid in the final

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Re: Loans - Arsenal

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:14 pm

There really has to be a wage cap to get the costs down. Borrowing to pay astronomical wages .needs to be stopped.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:18 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:14 pm
There really has to be a wage cap to get the costs down. Borrowing to pay astronomical wages .needs to be stopped.
yet people seem happy with our new owners borrowing to fund transfers (and subsequent wages)

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Re: Loans - Arsenal

Post by Leisure » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:23 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:18 pm
yet people seem happy with our new owners borrowing to fund transfers (and subsequent wages)
But don't think that we're paying astronomical wages.

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Re: Loans - Arsenal

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:24 pm

Leisure wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:23 pm
But don't think that we're paying astronomical wages.
unless it was the person working next to them that were on them

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Re: Loans - Arsenal

Post by Father Jack » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:32 pm

Why do only big 6 clubs qualify for this loan with a favourable rate of interest?
Was the qualifying criteria the size of loss incurred from Covid?

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Re: Loans - Arsenal

Post by Leisure » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:34 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:24 pm
unless it was the person working next to them that were on them
???

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