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Re: Brighton
And Mourinho claims Potter is the best English manager in the Premier League
So that counts them out of the relegation scrap then....who's left then?...cant be many
So that counts them out of the relegation scrap then....who's left then?...cant be many
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Wasn't Eddie Howe the best English manager in the premier league last season..... whatever happened to him?
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Who?dandeclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:01 amWasn't Eddie Howe the best English manager in the premier league last season..... whatever happened to him?
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Best manager last season Chris Wilder .
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I’d say over the last five to ten years it’s probably been Sean Dyche.
Controversial I know, but there ya go.
Controversial I know, but there ya go.
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It's a totally uncontroversial statement of fact, based on results, points per pound spent etc.
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You have to give Potter credit for how he is bringing that Brighton team on, must be good to watch. Where it leads who knows but I’d be happy stepping out of the dark ages and watching it.
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Potter has won 12 Premier League games out of 57.
His win percentage is in the Steve Kean, John Carver, Bob Bradley and Egil Olsen category. He’s at a club which is top 8 in the Premier League over the last five years for net spend.
He gets away with absolute murder. He didn’t even do that well at Swansea.
His win percentage is in the Steve Kean, John Carver, Bob Bradley and Egil Olsen category. He’s at a club which is top 8 in the Premier League over the last five years for net spend.
He gets away with absolute murder. He didn’t even do that well at Swansea.
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I'm sure the Brighton fans are absolutely delighted with where Potter has them in the table.
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Ah yes. Brian Potter with his wonderful football and sitting about a point ahead of us having spent probably 10x as much over the last couple of seasons as a club and having played more games this season. Legend in his own lunchtime.
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And they are currently above us (having played more games,I know, but you wonder if we will find the wins on current form)
Seem to have a proactive recruitment team which is something we can only dream of
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Brighton have played 19 games, and have amassed 17 points, so if they show similar form in the 2nd half of the campaign, they'll finish on 34 points, which will probably not be quite enough to avoid the drop, so all this pretty football might be leading them into the Championship, would you still be happy as a Brighton fan to watch that?
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is this the same Brighton team that have only won three matches in half a season?
Yeah, he's a great manager!
Yeah, he's a great manager!
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Ahh...the Brighton have won a game when we lost now they are world beaters thread......
When did Brighton last finish above us in a league season?
When did Brighton last finish above us in a league season?
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Exactly. A 1-0 win gets you 3 points, just like a 4-0 does.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:45 pmSo all those goals they've scored has gotten them where?
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£240M Spend huge losses every year what's not to like
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Watched their game yesterday - their goal was a joy to watch. Intricate, technical, one-touch passing. You always feel with Brighton that they can play that sort of football but will always concede, especially late on. To their credit, they were also very good defensively yesterday and Leeds never looked like equalising.
They played a 343 formation which allowed them to build from a solid base, and then break with pace and skill when they recovered the ball. I think people assume Potter completely ripped up all of Hughton's work and has inputted a brand new style of play. From what I saw yesterday, it was very much a case of evolving Hughton's approach into a more aesthetically pleasing style, rather than a revolution. I would love to see Burnley try this now.
They played a 343 formation which allowed them to build from a solid base, and then break with pace and skill when they recovered the ball. I think people assume Potter completely ripped up all of Hughton's work and has inputted a brand new style of play. From what I saw yesterday, it was very much a case of evolving Hughton's approach into a more aesthetically pleasing style, rather than a revolution. I would love to see Burnley try this now.
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Brighton fans call it Potterball and for the most part seemingly want rid of him
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Is it more effective than our current style?ksrclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:34 pmWatched their game yesterday - their goal was a joy to watch. Intricate, technical, one-touch passing. You always feel with Brighton that they can play that sort of football but will always concede, especially late on. To their credit, they were also very good defensively yesterday and Leeds never looked like equalising.
They played a 343 formation which allowed them to build from a solid base, and then break with pace and skill when they recovered the ball. I think people assume Potter completely ripped up all of Hughton's work and has inputted a brand new style of play. From what I saw yesterday, it was very much a case of evolving Hughton's approach into a more aesthetically pleasing style, rather than a revolution. I would love to see Burnley try this now.
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We'll find out towards the end of the season. Doesn't look like much between them at present.
More pleasing on the eye though.
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me sleeping on the couch is as potent as our current style
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If your only target is to finish 17th or higher may aswell do it scoring goals and watching pretty football.
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So we are back to the age old argument of style over substance.
Brighton are playing prettier football but it's not showing a significant improvement on league position.
Wolves play prettier football but without Jimenez, they're dropping down the league with 1 win in 9 I think it is.
I'll take substance over style this season.
Now we've got new owners, we should start to see a gradual change of style because Dyche has proven he can do something different with better players and it got us into Europe.
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No we are not back to an argument over style of substance.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:39 pmSo we are back to the age old argument of style over substance.
Brighton are playing prettier football but it's not showing a significant improvement on league position.
Wolves play prettier football but without Jimenez, they're dropping down the league with 1 win in 9 I think it is.
I'll take substance over style this season.
Now we've got new owners, we should start to see a gradual change of style because Dyche has proven he can do something different with better players and it got us into Europe.
There is very little between the substance of the two teams this season. One side plays with an attractive style, one plays with a deeply unattractive style. In that case, I'll choose the attractive style every day of the week. Nothing more to be said on that as it's simply my preference.
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If the "better players" don't arrive this January window, which at the moment seems very unlikely given the talk of very limited funds, it looks as though we will have to try and tough it out with what we have.
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Well there we go. Potter summed up in two posts.Socrates wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:41 amPotter has won 12 Premier League games out of 57.
His win percentage is in the Steve Kean, John Carver, Bob Bradley and Egil Olsen category. He’s at a club which is top 8 in the Premier League over the last five years for net spend.
He gets away with absolute murder. He didn’t even do that well at Swansea.
I think I’ll agree with the second of them.
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And yet, as I've said, there is nothing between the two teams so far this season. Aside from the obvious aesthetics, of course.
Who knows how things will pan out from here, but there is a well known saying about lies and statistics.
Who knows how things will pan out from here, but there is a well known saying about lies and statistics.
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I really don't understand the praise that Potter gets to be honest. They're a bang average side and don't play particularly great football from what I've seen - he certainly hasn't taken the team forward much from where they were under Hughton. He seems like a thoroughly decent chap, but I don't really get some of the hype.
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Stats?
We've yet to finish below Brighton, we've played in Europe and they've spent a shed load more money than us for little return.
That enough stats for you?
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Okay Sid, calm. That is enough stats for me, yes. I certainly don't want you to dig anymore out unless you're really desperate to.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:25 pmStats?
We've yet to finish below Brighton, we've played in Europe and they've spent a shed load more money than us for little return.
That enough stats for you?
I was referring to the fact that someone compared him Steve Kean and Bob Bradley based on some stats. Yet the stats this season show us to be performing at roughly the same level as them. I'd have thought we'd be doing a hell of a better than a side being managed by someone like that. Just goes to show that stats alone can be made to tell you whatever you're looking to find, really.
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I’m bored so I thought I’d answer my own question....since 1994 or in the last 27 seasons the massive club that is Brighton and Hove Albion have finished league seasons above us TWICE....Hibsclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:45 am
When did Brighton last finish above us in a league season?
Championship Season 11/12 when they were 10th....we were 13th
Championship Season 12/13 when they were 4th....we were 11th
Hopefully this will put to rest the constant Brighton Brazillesque love in on here every time they win a game. Ohh and the first of the seasons that they finished above us Ashley Barnes was their top scorer...
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So for all the talk of their great football this season they ended up one place and two points above us, despite spending far more money.
What do some commentators and pundits see in Graham Potter that makes him the next big thing?
What do some commentators and pundits see in Graham Potter that makes him the next big thing?
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Plays pretty football that doesn't yield many results, same as Howe and pretty football is what people want, inc people on this forum who pine for Coyle still because they get all misty eyed for attacking football that results in the team conceding a large number of goals.
Remember, its not about results for these idiots.
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Hes kept them up irrespective... and gives City a two goal lead and still beats em...something we can only dream of.
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We are halfway there, we give City a 2 goal lead everytime we play them
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Brighton are one decent striker away from a good league finish. There goal difference for league position is a bit of an anomaly.
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Welbeck Lallana Maupay Jahanabash(?) etc etc probably 400k + per week?????? Clearly need to invest moreNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:36 amBrighton are one decent striker away from a good league finish. There goal difference for league position is a bit of an anomaly.
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Yes and none of them are good enough.
If they had someone like wood they would be finishing top half. As highlighted there goal difference is an anomaly, they should be top half team just lacking a finisher
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But if they signed Wood the experts would trot out "going against their principles" "anti-football" ad naseum......but would probably be top half I agreeNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:01 amYes and none of them are good enough.
If they had someone like wood they would be finishing top half. As highlighted there goal difference is an anomaly, they should be top half team just lacking a finisher
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I don't think Potter is the next Guardiola, Dyche is clearly a far more established PL manager but Lallana isn't a striker, The Iranian fella is a wide player and Welbeck has never been trusted to play central in his career for a reason.
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I don’t get the hate of potter he’s done a good job with Brighton.
They have a strong squad, just need one or two players to take them to the next level. One thing he has really improved has been the defence
They have a strong squad, just need one or two players to take them to the next level. One thing he has really improved has been the defence