With 21 games left to play and only having registered 9 goals this season I think reaching 30 goals will be a tall order. We managed 43 last season. 30 of those goals came from our 4 recognised front men with only 11 from the rest of the squad.
This season our strikers have only netted 4 times. I know I am stating the obvious but these are worrying statistics and makes me wonder why Dyche keeps persisting with the Wood/Barnes combination up front. Additionally, without our midfield/defence chipping in with circa 10 goals we will struggle to hit a modest 30 goal total. It is a good job we have got Mee and Tarks fit and playing well to ensure a few clean sheets because if we go a goal down in games we rarely look like getting anything.

No.... it’s impossible.

dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:13 pm

No.... it’s impossible.

We are doomed then!

Good question, will we get more goals or points this season ?

Jenny55 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:25 pm

We are doomed then!

Yep..... time to write the season off.

We will probably get more points if we achieve a few “ugly” 1-0 wins.

Couldn't give a toss if we don't.

Theoretically a team can stay up by scoring just 10 goals to get 10 1nil wins and so long as it doesn't concede any in 8 games that are draws.

I'm more bothered about hitting 38 points and if we do it with the lowest goals scored tally ever I'll be fine with it this season.

of course we can, will we, that's a different question You'd have to say the chance is very unlikely, if we persist in playing the same people in the same way but we've all seen players turn it around.

Gosh, if we could reach 30 goals... wow. I'd be speechless. It'd be a real feather in the cap for the club if we could get there. Little old Burnley punching above their weight and hitting 30 goals in a season. The likes of Aston Villa may already have 29 but they've spent money on good players to get there. I'm proud we're doing it our way and refusing to hit the back of the net.

We're on track for 20 goals, equal with Derby in their 11 point season. The joint lowest in any English top flight season, ever.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:45 pm

I'm more bothered about hitting 38 points and if we do it with the lowest goals scored tally ever I'll be fine with it this season.

The only number that matters is the number of points you finish with

No

We can't rely on the back 5 to keep a clean sheet every week. Particularly with the Mee Tarky partnership likely to be broken up this summer.

northernpowerhouse wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:38 pm

We're on track for 20 goals, equal with Derby in their 11 point season. The joint lowest in any English top flight season, ever.

And halfway through we already have 50% more points than they finished with and aren’t in the relegation zone.

Stats eh. Don’t you love them? You can make them fit anything.

84.27% of them are made up anyway.

I think we will. Let's hope we get at least one attacker in this month.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:46 pm

We can't rely on the back 5 to keep a clean sheet every week. Particularly with the Mee Tarky partnership likely to be broken up this summer.

We only need it to last until the end of the season.

Tarky can go wherever he wants to go then, assuming the price is right for us and we can get his replacement in.
Ben Mee can the ensure the new lad improves.

Oh and I'm fairly sure Pope was 2nd last season in the golden glove....

Probably not but as long as we stay up who cares, it's points that matter not goals. And we're more than capable of eking out a few 1-0 victories if needed.

easily

not a cat in hells chance

Yes, because the manager will begin to feel under scrutiny and suddenly try something else.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:44 pm

Probably not but as long as we stay up who cares, it's points that matter not goals. And we're more than capable of eking out a few 1-0 victories if needed.

Ah that’s fine then. So we have got a few 1-0 grind out the result performances to look forward to, several stink the place out performances like against West Ham with no goals from our impotent forwards and a few pastings? I’m just thankful I only have to watch these games from the comfort of my armchair.
It seems that as long as we stay up that is the be all and end all regardless of how awful we are to watch.

Jenny55 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:56 am

Ah that’s fine then. So we have got a few 1-0 grind out the result performances to look forward to, several stink the place out performances like against West Ham with no goals from our impotent forwards and a few pastings? I’m just thankful I only have to watch these games from the comfort of my armchair.
It seems that as long as we stay up that is the be all and end all regardless of how awful we are to watch.

This season survival is the be all and end all.

We're in the middle of a pandemic, we've had some players out with Covid.
We've just undergone a protracted takeover and the dust is settling.
I'm not expecting a massive amount to be done this month in regards to transfers, however I'm expecting a better summer than we've seen for a long time but we have to stay up to enable us to attract the better players.

Jenny55 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:56 am

Ah that’s fine then. So we have got a few 1-0 grind out the result performances to look forward to, several stink the place out performances like against West Ham with no goals from our impotent forwards and a few pastings? I’m just thankful I only have to watch these games from the comfort of my armchair.
It seems that as long as we stay up that is the be all and end all regardless of how awful we are to watch.

You don't have to watch them at all.

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:03 am

You don't have to watch them at all.

Never understood this, the match day thread is full of people saying things like, "this is crap" and "we are awful to watch" yet they post the same week in week out on the threads and any other topic they can squeeze it in.

Why not just turn the tv off, those who are desperate to be entertained can watch Man City for the same price as Burnley so watch that instead. Imagine disliking something so much that all it does it make you whinge and then you watch it once or twice a week.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:53 pm

Never understood this, the match day thread is full of people saying things like, "this is crap" and "we are awful to watch" yet they post the same week in week out on the threads and any other topic they can squeeze it in.

Why not just turn the tv off, those who are desperate to be entertained can watch Man City for the same price as Burnley so watch that instead. Imagine disliking something so much that all it does it make you whinge and then you watch it once or twice a week.

I just don’t understand why fans aren’t allowed different opinions. Watching Burnley is pretty turgid at the best of times, but it doesn’t mean they don’t want to support the club.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:53 pm

Never understood this, the match day thread is full of people saying things like, "this is crap" and "we are awful to watch" yet they post the same week in week out on the threads and any other topic they can squeeze it in.

Why not just turn the tv off, those who are desperate to be entertained can watch Man City for the same price as Burnley so watch that instead. Imagine disliking something so much that all it does it make you whinge and then you watch it once or twice a week.

They're probably the same people who listen to Talksport just so they can then complain about how rubbish it, or read The Daily Mail and whinge about it

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:55 pm

I just don’t understand why fans aren’t allowed different opinions. Watching Burnley is pretty turgid at the best of times, but it doesn’t mean they don’t want to support the club.

You just whinge a lot though, just had a quick browse through your comments and there's rarely anything positive

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:55 pm

I just don’t understand why fans aren’t allowed different opinions. Watching Burnley is pretty turgid at the best of times, but it doesn’t mean they don’t want to support the club.

Anyone is allowed any opinion they want, but those who just whinge at everything the club does needs to develop a bit of a thicker skin, if you are prepared to constantly criticise then surely you should be capable of taking some criticism back

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:11 pm

Anyone is allowed any opinion they want, but those who just whinge at everything the club does needs to develop a bit of a thicker skin, if you are prepared to constantly criticise then surely you should be capable of taking some criticism back

What about constructive criticism? We are all Burnley supporters and most of us proud of it. To question our style of play, lack of goals, lack of investment, manager stubbornness is in my view part and parcel of being a football supporter. Also as a football supporter it would be nice to be entertained now and again with some decent attacking football which results in the ball going into the opposition net more often.

Jenny55 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:36 pm

What about constructive criticism? We are all Burnley supporters and most of us proud of it. To question our style of play, lack of goals, lack of investment, manager stubbornness is in my view part and parcel of being a football supporter. Also as a football supporter it would be nice to be entertained now and again with some decent attacking football which results in the ball going into the opposition net more often.

If you haven't been entertained in the last few seasons then perhaps Burnley is the wrong club for that individual.

In my eyes a supporter supports (especially in the tougher times) and a fan wants all the above you have listed to make you happy.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:47 pm

If you haven't been entertained in the last few seasons then perhaps Burnley is the wrong club for that individual.

In my eyes a supporter supports (especially in the tougher times) and a fan wants all the above you have listed to make you happy.

You are starting to sound rather patronising now. I’m not a fan I am definitely a supporter. Perhaps I am in a minority but I don’t think being in the Premier League is the be all and end all if the football we are serving up is geared to survival and nothing else.
Is it any coincidence we are usually last game shown on Match of the Day? It’s not because we are little old Burnley and nobody likes us.
I started this thread because I genuinely think we will struggle to get to 30 goals. I do believe we will stay up but it isn’t going to be pretty. I then hope that the new owners who have borrowed a significant amount of money to buy the majority of shares in BFC find some more capital so that we can strengthen the squad for 2021/22 season when hopefully supporters and some fans can take up their seats again to watch with fresh optimism. If you still feel I am being negative then so be it. It is a messageboard after all for people to air their views, even if they don’t conform with the views of the majority.

Outside the top 6-7 clubs it's always about survival each season.

Occasionally a club will break into the top lot, but they'll drop back out again.

The only thing that changes the status quo is serious and sustained investment, like Leicester.

Jenny55 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:09 pm

You are starting to sound rather patronising now. I’m not a fan I am definitely a supporter. Perhaps I am in a minority but I don’t think being in the Premier League is the be all and end all if the football we are serving up is geared to survival and nothing else.
Is it any coincidence we are usually last game shown on Match of the Day? It’s not because we are little old Burnley and nobody likes us.
I started this thread because I genuinely think we will struggle to get to 30 goals. I do believe we will stay up but it isn’t going to be pretty. I then hope that the new owners who have borrowed a significant amount of money to buy the majority of shares in BFC find some more capital so that we can strengthen the squad for 2021/22 season when hopefully supporters and some fans can take up their seats again to watch with fresh optimism. If you still feel I am being negative then so be it. It is a messageboard after all for people to air their views, even if they don’t conform with the views of the majority.

If it sounds patronising that is your take on it, I could read your comment of being in the Premier League isn't the be all and end all (ignoring the fact a good number of fans vanish when we do get relegated) as patronising but I just choose to read the words without any feeling.

I couldn't give a **** where we feature on Match of the day I don't watch it and have little interest in have we entertained the sat at home fan of other clubs.

We have just finished 7th and 10th in 2 of the last 3 seasons hardly a club aiming to just survive. Whenever we have a tough spell this is how the forum goes. If you are expecting us to suddenly start throwing money about at players from all over I have a funny feeling you will be disappointed, but we had a noisy minority who wanted Garlick no longer running the show and now this is where we are.

It is a message board for all our views, nothing wrong though if someone disagrees with your view in them saying so, just as there is nothing wrong with you disagreeing with the whole of the above, life would be very boring if everyone was the same.

I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we reach 30 unless changes are made.

box_of_frogs wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:47 pm

I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we reach 30 unless changes are made.

But it's irrelevant if we survive.

Huddersfield survived with 28 goals but that's about it from recent memory. So generally speaking if you score 30 or fewer, the odds are stacked against you.

GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:55 pm
I just don’t understand why fans aren’t allowed different opinions. Watching Burnley is pretty turgid at the best of times, but it doesn’t mean they don’t want to support the club.
You just whinge a lot though, just had a quick browse through your comments and there's rarely anything positive


god is a deejay81 sounds like one of those gleeful, ever smiling christians who accept just about everything without question. doesnt grasp the concept of football fans having a rant or two on a board which is there specifically to do just that if the need arises. he loves his tv and radio, all channels too. no matter if the output is turgid sewer water, he just enjoys all of it

Spijed wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:57 pm

But it's irrelevant if we survive.

I didn’t say it did.

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:10 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:55 pm
I just don’t understand why fans aren’t allowed different opinions. Watching Burnley is pretty turgid at the best of times, but it doesn’t mean they don’t want to support the club.
You just whinge a lot though, just had a quick browse through your comments and there's rarely anything positive


god is a deejay81 sounds like one of those gleeful, ever smiling christians who accept just about everything without question. doesnt grasp the concept of football fans having a rant or two on a board which is there specifically to do just that if the need arises. he loves his tv and radio, all channels too. no matter if the output is turgid sewer water, he just enjoys all of it

Or maybe if he doesn't enjoy it he switches it off and finds something else to do that he does enjoy - and we know what that is in Sid's case.

I don't understand why someone would continue to put themselves through something that they hate so much when they have a choice not to.

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:39 pm

Or maybe if he doesn't enjoy it he switches it off and finds something else to do that he does enjoy - and we know what that is in Sid's case.

I don't understand why someone would continue to put themselves through something that they hate so much when they have a choice not to.

I'm out working usually when we are on, so I listen to it on the radio, if it's a dire game I'll change station

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:10 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:55 pm
I just don’t understand why fans aren’t allowed different opinions. Watching Burnley is pretty turgid at the best of times, but it doesn’t mean they don’t want to support the club.
You just whinge a lot though, just had a quick browse through your comments and there's rarely anything positive


god is a deejay81 sounds like one of those gleeful, ever smiling christians who accept just about everything without question. doesnt grasp the concept of football fans having a rant or two on a board which is there specifically to do just that if the need arises. he loves his tv and radio, all channels too. no matter if the output is turgid sewer water, he just enjoys all of it

A rant or 2?
Newcastleclaret93 doesn't just have a rant or 2, it's pretty much constantly negative stuff from them.

I don't enjoy everything, the difference is I'm grown up enough to change channel or station if its crap.

I'm also clearly more than capable of dissecting stuff on here and seeing both positive and negatives, whereas others clearly only want to see the bad all of the effing time.

It isn't healthy to be so miserable about something, nor is it healthy to keep watching or listening to something you're not happy with.

Aren't you one of those idiots who constantly listens to Talksport and then comes on here to complain about Talksport?
There is no point talking to people like that.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:43 pm

I'm out working usually when we are on, so I listen to it on the radio, if it's a dire game I'll change station

You must be stacked now......

Why am I starting to fear there will be no incomings this month. It will leave I'm afraid, much egg on the faces of Pace & Hart if that happens, with both pledging we will be involved in January incomings

box_of_frogs wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:02 pm

You must be stacked now......

??

The January incomings were the 4 new directors maybe

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:07 pm

??

Sorry, read it as ‘working out’ rather than ‘out working’