Dyche out?

[jrgbfc]

Not that i think there's any truth whatsoever in the link but maybe some people need to take a closer look at Rafa's track record before slagging him off.
Winning La liga twice with Valencia back in the days when Barca and Real were both really strong is a hell of an achievement. Some people on here seem to be describing him along the lines of a Pardew or Mark Hughes.

[taio]

Not that i think there's any truth whatsoever in the link but maybe some people need to take a closer look at Rafa's track record before slagging him off.
Winning La liga twice with Valencia back in the days when Barca and Real were both really strong is a hell of an achievement. Some people on here seem to be describing him along the lines of a Pardew or Mark Hughes.

Correct.

People need to look at Dyche's record before slagging him off too.

You'd do well to remember too...particularly after the **** you've given him.

Anyhow the thread is ridiculous.

[Right_winger]

Not that i think there's any truth whatsoever in the link but maybe some people need to take a closer look at Rafa's track record before slagging him off.
Winning La liga twice with Valencia back in the days when Barca and Real were both really strong is a hell of an achievement. Some people on here seem to be describing him along the lines of a Pardew or Mark Hughes.

It’s laughable really given Rafa’s pedigree and what he has achieved as a manager and who he has managed.

There no question that Rafa is leagues ahead of Dyche as a manager. They are not even comparable.

Anyone who thinks Dyche is a better manager than Rafa needs to send me some of what they have been taking. Absolute fantasy is what it is.

[taio]

It’s laughable really given Rafa’s pedigree and what he has achieved as a manager and who he has managed.

There no question that Rafa is leagues ahead of Dyche as a manager. They are not even comparable.

Anyone who thinks Dyche is a better manager than Rafa needs to send me some of what they have been taking. Absolute fantasy is what it is.

What's more laughable is your relentless campaign against Dyche. Absolute fantasy.

[Newcastleclaret93]

It’s laughable really given Rafa’s pedigree and what he has achieved as a manager and who he has managed.

There no question that Rafa is leagues ahead of Dyche as a manager. They are not even comparable.

Anyone who thinks Dyche is a better manager than Rafa needs to send me some of what they have been taking. Absolute fantasy is what it is.

I understand your view but I think it’s a bit difficult to compare the two.

Rafa is realistically looking for his last or second last management role. Where as Dyche is only 8 years into his management career.

No point discussing this, it’s an absolute none starter.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Maybe the board pushing Dyche to commit his future instead

[fatboy47]

I'd be amazed if Rafa came within a country mile of us...

. However, if he did you'd have to say we'd be spunking a lot of wedge to have interested him.

[Conroy92]

It’s laughable really given Rafa’s pedigree and what he has achieved as a manager and who he has managed.

There no question that Rafa is leagues ahead of Dyche as a manager. They are not even comparable.

Anyone who thinks Dyche is a better manager than Rafa needs to send me some of what they have been taking. Absolute fantasy is what it is.

While I can't disagree with some of what you have said do you honestly think Rafa can do a better job than Dyche currently is doing with limited resources? We haven't got a squad that could match Rafa's style and I suspect we'd be relegated come the end of the year.

[nyclaret]

I couldn't care less about who the better manager is between Rafa and Sean. What I care about is who the better manager is FOR BURNLEY. And that is Sean Dyche.

[GavlarClaret]

Rafa apparently Celtic bound.

What an absolute non story this is

Sean will do 15 complete years with us IMO and finish the job of making us a solid PL club with a legit Euro challenge every year

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Personally think it will be nice to have a manager we can all refer to by his first name and make it sound like we know him really well.

[AlargeClaret]

It’s almost too painful to even contemplate as it is hilarious . Though suprised “the fat Spanish waiter “ is stopping as low as Celtic

[jrgbfc]

Surely he can do a lot better than Celtic? Would be a strange move to me.

[Caballo]

It’s laughable really given Rafa’s pedigree and what he has achieved as a manager and who he has managed.

There no question that Rafa is leagues ahead of Dyche as a manager. They are not even comparable.

Anyone who thinks Dyche is a better manager than Rafa needs to send me some of what they have been taking. Absolute fantasy is what it is.

Horses for courses though. I don't think you'd find many disagreeing if you said Rafa was a better manager than Bruce, the league table says otherwise.

[GavlarClaret]

It screams of a knee jerk reaction from Celtic's board because Rangers are fully back on the scene to me.... Rafa has always pulled big money so I assume they've thrown big money at him?

[jrgbfc]

Maybe the board pushing Dyche to commit his future instead

If i were Dyche i'd wait to see how things went with the new owners before rushing into signing a new deal.

[Winstonswhite]

Not that i think there's any truth whatsoever in the link but maybe some people need to take a closer look at Rafa's track record before slagging him off.
Winning La liga twice with Valencia back in the days when Barca and Real were both really strong is a hell of an achievement. Some people on here seem to be describing him along the lines of a Pardew or Mark Hughes.

To be fair I couldn’t believe that since those league titles with Valencia he’d only managed to win one more- the one Dyche has won, The Championship- despite managing Liverpool, Napoli, Inter, Chelsea and Real Madrid!

[tim_noone]

Surely he can do a lot better than Celtic? Would be a strange move to me.

European Football...every year.

[jrgbfc]

To be fair I couldn’t believe that since those league titles with Valencia he’d only managed to win one more- the one Dyche has won, The Championship- despite managing Liverpool, Napoli, Inter, Chelsea and Real Madrid!

Tbf in that time he's also won the Champions league, Uefa cup twice, and a couple of domestic trophies with Liverpool and Napoli, not a bad haul!

[DomBFC1882]

European Football...every year.

With a pub team. Pointless

[scouseclaret]

I couldn't care less about who the better manager is between Rafa and Sean. What I care about is who the better manager is FOR BURNLEY. And that is Sean Dyche.

This.

It may not be a completely fanciful idea. Rafa’s family still live in West Kirby and she’s not for moving, so working in China can’t be ideal.

But has he achieved anything operating on the sort of budget he’d have at Burnley?

Besides, the new owners have made a point of saying they want to keep Dyche and I see no reason not to believe them.

[Tribesmen]

There is a saying in fottball " you are only as good as your last game " with that i will draw the line under it .

[Hibsclaret]

There no question that Rafa is leagues ahead of Dyche as a manager. They are not even comparable.

As they are not comparable I thought I’d do just that...in the 2 years they were both managing in the Premier league at the same time Dyche got 5 more points with the smaller club

[Goodclaret]

It’s laughable really given Rafa’s pedigree and what he has achieved as a manager and who he has managed.

There no question that Rafa is leagues ahead of Dyche as a manager. They are not even comparable.

Anyone who thinks Dyche is a better manager than Rafa needs to send me some of what they have been taking. Absolute fantasy is what it is.

Says the poster who said Cotterill is a better manager than Dyche

[Colburn_Claret]

Surely he can do a lot better than Celtic? Would be a strange move to me.

There aren't many jobs out there, that guarantee a champions league spot every year. Add to that the 2 horse race for titles and I could see why he'd go there. The lazy man's route to the top table.
I like Rafael, and it would be a lot more interesting watching him against Gerrard, than Lennon.

[Right_winger]

As they are not comparable I thought I’d do just that...in the 2 years they were both managing in the Premier league at the same time Dyche got 5 more points with the smaller club

Come back when Dyche has the same silverware as Rafa.

[ClaretAndJew]

The guy has since deleted his Tweet.

[BurnleyFC]

Come back when Dyche has the same silverware as Rafa.

If he had the opportunity to manage Liverpool then I think he could.

[Conroy92]

Come back when Dyche has the same silverware as Rafa.

Surely if that's your argument for Rafa being better than Dyche you can now go back and accept that Dyche is a better manager than Cotterill? Or does it not work like that...

Short memories some folk.

[Zlatan]

In terms of comparisons consider the following.

For the sake of an argument, Burnley are a greasy chip van on an industrial estate and Liverpool are a 3 star Michelin restaurant.

If you take Marco Pierre White from the 3 star Michelin restaurant and put him in the greasy chip van, he's still working with a greasy chip van and may improve some things but not others - it will still serve up chips and a burger, possibly with a little more seasoning.

If you take Dave from the greasy chip van and put him in the 3 star restaurant, they'll still serve posh food and you probably wouldn't notice too much until a few years later - by which time Dave might have actually learnt how to cook - the standards wont be what it used to be (the staff wouldn't take Dave seriously, and would just do their best or jump ship), but they certainly shouldn't be struggling but there's a real chance they will and Dave will be back in his chip van before long.

What I will say, in my analogy I believe that Dyche is already a really good chef (omelette jokes will come ) and if he was placed into a top restaurant, I think some of the staff might not like the way he runs things, but it certainly wont go bust. Whereas putting Rafa in the chip van will only mean that he serves chips and a burger, and I dont think anything will improve because of him, it would need to improve despite him.

In all honesty, you cant compare managers of different clubs fairly without considering the establishments they have worked in.

[jojomk1]

Celtic couldn't afford his wages or transfer budget demands

And neither could we

[claretandy]

Rafa would have better contacts abroad, at least we wouldn't be fishing in such a tiny pond.

[Nonayforever]

A Spanish journalist has said he won't be going to Celtic, he won't go back to Newcastle with the present owners because they don't share his vision and won't go back to Chelsea. There's going to be no change from the other top 6 sides, and like someone else said his family live in the Northwest.