Fulham

[LTUK89]

I’ve just watched Fulham play football for 90 minutes, keeping it on the floor, knocking it about, pass pass pass. Keeping possession with absolutely no end product. Infuriating to watch.

We get a lot of stick for hitting it long and looking for the second ball but at least we’re trying to make something happen! It’s exciting!

I’m much happier watching Burnley play ‘brexit ball’ than watching a team try to play ‘total football’ with players who just aren’t good enough to do it.

That is all.

[Burnley Ace]

We transition from defence to attack, going through the thirds” as effectively as any team!

[chekhov]

Brexit ball? Eh?

[Culmclaret]

Apparently some refer to us as Brexit FC

[tiger76]

Bit harsh saying they had no end product, they did score 2 after all, however it's now 10 PL games without a win, and in their plight draws aren't going to do them much use, it's wins they need, and that's what they are struggling to find.

[Im_not_Robbie_Blake]

Watching that match was 90 minutes of my life wasted. Such a poor standard.

[Devils_Advocate]

Id rather come 17th every season playing like Fulham than 13th every season playing as we do. Trouble is when you play like Fulham and come it 18th then the party's over

[Leisure]

Id rather come 17th every season playing like Fulham than 13th every season playing as we do.

Why does that not surprise me! Maybe you should go watch Fulham!

[Devils_Advocate]

Why does that not surprise me! Maybe you should go watch Fulham!

Cos I support Burnley. Id just rather watch a more attacking and skillful Burnley team but not at the expense of relegation. I accept we have to play how we play to stay up and its a miracle that Dyche does it every year so no criticism on that front but its just I prefer a certain style of football

[LeadBelly]

Id rather come 17th every season playing like Fulham than 13th every season playing as we do. Trouble is when you play like Fulham and come it 18th then the party's over

What about finishing 18th or 19th playing like Fulham though?

[Devils_Advocate]

What about finishing 18th or 19th playing like Fulham though?

Its covered in my post you quoted if you look carefully

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

Watching that match was 90 minutes of my life wasted. Such a poor standard.

Not as bad as their match at Brighton in midweek. That really was Championship standard.

[thomaspaine]

Id rather come 17th every season playing like Fulham than 13th every season playing as we do. Trouble is when you play like Fulham and come it 18th then the party's over

So basically you want us to play more 'gung ho' football but yet don't want our Premiership status to be threatened by playing more 'gung ho' football? Marvelous.

[HollandsPies]

Two poor teams, playing poorly.

[Bosscat]

Yet again DA hooks them in ...

Over on the Lancashire Blackburnegraph the Woe-vers Troll that is perpetually banned (and re-incarnates him/herself) made a comment about such posters on here being infiltrators to stir the garbage.

I am not saying DA is one of those (he is way to subtle ) but stop biting ffs... treat his posts for what they are ....

[Chobulous]

Id rather come 17th every season playing like Fulham than 13th every season playing as we do. Trouble is when you play like Fulham and come it 18th then the party's over

No you wouldn’t, you are just trying to provoke a reaction, as usual. Your username says it all. A while ago it was slightly amusing, now it’s just tiresome, some might say puerile. You do it in every thread you “contribute” to. Time you gave it a rest sonny.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’ve just watched Fulham play football for 90 minutes, keeping it on the floor, knocking it about, pass pass pass. Keeping possession with absolutely no end product. Infuriating to watch.

We get a lot of stick for hitting it long and looking for the second ball but at least we’re trying to make something happen! It’s exciting!

I’m much happier watching Burnley play ‘brexit ball’ than watching a team try to play ‘total football’ with players who just aren’t good enough to do it.

That is all.

Understand what your saying but they have still out scored us this season.

Think they are actually pretty good going forward it’s just at the back where they are quite poor.

[Burnleyareback2]

West Brom do seem to be gradually improving now though...

[Devils_Advocate]

So basically you want us to play more 'gung ho' football but yet don't want our Premiership status to be threatened by playing more 'gung ho' football? Marvelous.

No not quite. I am saying in a hypothetical situation I would rather watch Burnley play more attacking football, where we move it quickly on the deck and come a few places in the league lower, than play how we do now and finish a little higher.

I have also said that the few places Id sacrifice would have to not be at the cost of relegation or a European place (13th & 17th)

Im the real world I recognise and acknowledge that the reason we have managed ro keep surviving in this division season after season on our budget is down to Dyche and how he manages and sets up the team.

People enjoy different things about the game so I dont see whats so strange about me thinking that in different circumstances if it was possible I would enjoy my team playing a more exciting brand of football even if over a season we lost a couple of extra games and came a few places lower

I got the impression this week that lots of our fans enjoyed the second half against Villa when it was a bit more open and end to end and we scored three goals. Well them are the kind of games Id prefer to be involved in than some of our 1-0 wins

[Devils_Advocate]

No you wouldn’t, you are just trying to provoke a reaction, as usual. Your username says it all. A while ago it was slightly amusing, now it’s just tiresome, some might say puerile. You do it in every thread you “contribute” to. Time you gave it a rest sonny.

Nope Im being serious and if it bothers you just ignore me as I do with plenty of the crap I see others including yourself post on here

[Burnley1989]

The strange thing about people calling us Brexit FC is you can guarantee most probably voted for it Another buzz word on social media that sheep jump on

[boatshed bill]

So basically you want us to play more 'gung ho' football but yet don't want our Premiership status to be threatened by playing more 'gung ho' football? Marvelous.

It doesn't have to be "gung-ho" to be entertaining, does it?
If we had right-sided midfielder as good as McNeil, and a little more composure at the back we'd be fine to watch.

[Aclaret]

If only we could defend like we did v Liverpool and attack like we did v Villa in 2nd half...sounds easy.

[Rileybobs]

No not quite. I am saying in a hypothetical situation I would rather watch Burnley play more attacking football, where we move it quickly on the deck and come a few places in the league lower, than play how we do now and finish a little higher.

I have also said that the few places Id sacrifice would have to not be at the cost of relegation or a European place (13th & 17th)

Im the real world I recognise and acknowledge that the reason we have managed ro keep surviving in this division season after season on our budget is down to Dyche and how he manages and sets up the team.

People enjoy different things about the game so I dont see whats so strange about me thinking that in different circumstances if it was possible I would enjoy my team playing a more exciting brand of football even if over a season we lost a couple of extra games and came a few places lower

I got the impression this week that lots of our fans enjoyed the second half against Villa when it was a bit more open and end to end and we scored three goals. Well them are the kind of games Id prefer to be involved in than some of our 1-0 wins

Not questioning your reasoning as it's perfectly valid. I'd also like to see us play a more expansive game, but not sure I'd do this for the difference between a 13th and 17th place finish. Surviving relegation on the last game or two of the season doesn't make for enjoyable viewing - regardless of the style of football.

[Newcastleclaret93]

No not quite. I am saying in a hypothetical situation I would rather watch Burnley play more attacking football, where we move it quickly on the deck and come a few places in the league lower, than play how we do now and finish a little higher.

I have also said that the few places Id sacrifice would have to not be at the cost of relegation or a European place (13th & 17th)

Im the real world I recognise and acknowledge that the reason we have managed ro keep surviving in this division season after season on our budget is down to Dyche and how he manages and sets up the team.

People enjoy different things about the game so I dont see whats so strange about me thinking that in different circumstances if it was possible I would enjoy my team playing a more exciting brand of football even if over a season we lost a couple of extra games and came a few places lower

I got the impression this week that lots of our fans enjoyed the second half against Villa when it was a bit more open and end to end and we scored three goals. Well them are the kind of games Id prefer to be involved in than some of our 1-0 wins

I think what you have posted above is most likely the route the new owners want to take the club. They have mentioned Southampton before and I can see why. They are usually solid enough at the back and play some fairly decent stuff going forward (a more sellable brand). They also have a lower net spend than Burnley over the last 5 seasons.

Develop talent and sell them on seems to the mantra moving forward.

[Devils_Advocate]

Not questioning your reasoning as it's perfectly valid. I'd also like to see us play a more expansive game, but not sure I'd do this for the difference between a 13th and 17th place finish. Surviving relegation on the last game or two of the season doesn't make for enjoyable viewing - regardless of the style of football.

I dont know, if we were guaranteed to stay up which is what my premise stated then you could argue it would be more exciting than having 3 or 4 dead rubbers to finish the season off

That said id feel the same if you said 11th and 15th cos my point was Id sacrifice a few places to be a more exciting and attacking footballing side.

I know you are not doing this but some people on here are so precious they take things like this as a criticism and get really defensive when I wasnt having a go at all of what we are achieving and how we are doing it at the moment but just commenting about how I enjoy watching Fulham with the ball when they are playing well

[Rileybobs]

I dont know, if we were guaranteed to stay up which is what my premise stated then you could argue it would be more exciting than having 3 or 4 dead rubbers to finish the season off

That said id feel the same if you said 11th and 15th cos my point was Id sacrifice a few places to be a more exciting and attacking footballing side.

I know you are not doing this but some people on here are so precious they take things like this as a criticism and get really defensive when I wasnt having a go at all of what we are achieving and how we are doing it at the moment but just commenting about how I enjoy watching Fulham with the ball when they are playing well

I think sometimes your reputation precedes you, sir.

It's tempting to think that sacrificing a few league positions for a better brand of football would bring enjoyment. Maybe it would. But you only have to look at the comments of Villa fans the other night to see that this isn't always the case. But I generally agree that I'd be happy to see us play a more attacking game at the costs of a few points over a season. That said, I think at times we show that we're capable of doing so.

[Elizabeth]

I enjoy watching better teams than Fulham on the ball but if that’s the level people want to enjoy that’s fine by me

[Devils_Advocate]

I think sometimes your reputation precedes you, sir.

It's tempting to think that sacrificing a few league positions for a better brand of football would bring enjoyment. Maybe it would. But you only have to look at the comments of Villa fans the other night to see that this isn't always the case. But I generally agree that I'd be happy to see us play a more attacking game at the costs of a few points over a season. That said, I think at times we show that we're capable of doing so.

I can cope with people getting funny with me cos I flit between serious and messing about at the blink of the eye.

In general people are way to precious and as someone who can view and discuss Burnley in a very neutral and objective way I avoid most serious discussions cos once you stand back from it you can see how ludicrous most of the views are.

On the bottom bit I was just purely talking for myself (its honestly how I feel) and dont need or expect others to feel the same way and to be honest I didnt think it would end up in a big discussion!!

[Bin Ont Turf]

That Lookman fella at Fulham is more infuriating to watch than Brady is.

And how did West Brom get promoted? They are terrible.

[tiger76]

Understand what your saying but they have still out scored us this season.

Think they are actually pretty good going forward it’s just at the back where they are quite poor.

They have outscored us, as have West Brom, and all the other teams down there, apart from Sheff Utd, however it's not gained them many points has it, and ultimately it's points that matter at the end of the season.

West Brom have now shipped 50 goals, and they've only played 21 games, if you're conceding at least an average of 2 goals a game, it's tough to win games at any level, let alone in the PL.

[Newcastleclaret93]

They have outscored us, as have West Brom, and all the other teams down there, apart from Sheff Utd, however it's not gained them many points has it, and ultimately it's points that matter at the end of the season.

West Brom have now shipped 50 goals, and they've only played 21 games, if you're conceding at least an average of 2 goals a game, it's tough to win games at any level, let alone in the PL.

I was more just making the point the OP stated that Fulham had no end product, when they have outscored use this season

[tiger76]

That Lookman fella at Fulham is more infuriating to watch than Brady is.

And how did West Brom get promoted? They are terrible.

Lookman shows glimpses, but I agree he doesn't do it often enough.

West Brom got promoted because Brentford & Fulham bottled it, but it looks like being a brief sojourn in the PL for them unless they buck up their ideas, they really needed 6 points from these 2 games against Fulham & Sheff Utd, so to only pick up 1 today is a big blow to them, and they got into a winning position, but couldn't see it out, that's the difference between Burnley and the other teams, we rarely give up a lead once we get our noses in front, the other teams down among the dead men have surrendered leads numerous times already this season.

[tiger76]

I was more just making the point the OP stated that Fulham had no end product, when they have outscored use this season

I don't disagree with that point, mind you they have only 4 more goals than we have, and they've played a game more, so it's not a huge disparity, and they've conceded 5 more, hence why we have a slightly better GD, the big problem for Fulham is they just can't win games, and today that game should have been dead and buried by HT, but they lacked the killer touch, and a 1 goal lead is always slim when you've not got a watertight defence, which is why when West Brom finally started coming to the party in the 2nd half, Fulham suddenly looked rattled, and shipped a couple of goals, equally the Baggies threw away the lead in the last 15 minutes through some poor defending, and you can see why this pair only have 4 wins between them, they just can't see out games or kill matches off when they are on top, and that formula usually only means relegation.

[Jakubclaret]

Lookman shows glimpses, but I agree he doesn't do it often enough.

West Brom got promoted because Brentford & Fulham bottled it, but it looks like being a brief sojourn in the PL for them unless they buck up their ideas, they really needed 6 points from these 2 games against Fulham & Sheff Utd, so to only pick up 1 today is a big blow to them, and they got into a winning position, but couldn't see it out, that's the difference between Burnley and the other teams, we rarely give up a lead once we get our noses in front, the other teams down among the dead men have surrendered leads numerous times already this season.

Agree, I said pretty much the same earlier on about we’ve got the mentality to grind leads out, normally we don’t have the firepower to go gung ho like the others, the approach is to usually snatch 1 & sit back doggedly & that approach as been more favourable in terms of securing points.

[tiger76]

Agree, I said pretty much the same earlier on about we’ve got the mentality to grind leads out, normally we don’t have the firepower to go gung ho like the others, the approach is to usually snatch 1 & sit back doggedly & that approach as been more favourable in terms of securing points.

All teams have to dig a few 1-0 wins out over the course of the season, even City weren't at their sparkling best today, but they got the job done, and we are experts at managing a game when we go ahead, this is probably why opposition teams and managers hate playing us, because they can dominate the ball for 30/40 minutes, find it tough to break us down, and then we'll get a set-piece, and often nick a goal, as Ben did on Wednesday, and then suddenly the whole complexion of the game changes.

We can play more expansively at times, Wolves, Fulham & Villa come immediately to mind, but equally we can grind out a result more often than not when we need to, and this is what separates us from the bottom 3, they can't string even a couple of results together, let alone back-to-back wins which we achieved this week.

[Stayingup]

That Lookman fella at Fulham is more infuriating to watch than Brady is.

And how did West Brom get promoted? They are terrible.

Bacause the Championship is a poor standard compared to the Premier League. Its bound to be, when you look at the host of top level players in the Premeier league. See who is top of the Championship now.

As DA says above its a miracle how SD has kept us in this league with what are mainly Championship players. The answer to that is by the way he sets up the team and the way they play. To the strengths of the team and in fact we do play some attractive football at times. Just depends who we are playing against. Better players in and SD would I am sure adapt that to playing better teams. Liverpool for one are not against using the long ball either but they have the skills to vary their game.

[Darthlaw]

I’d like us to play like Man City and spend the same amount as them to attract players.

However I would not like for us to go bankrupt, nor attempt to play that style with players massively inferior to Man City, getting relegated in the process.

It would be very silly, considering we have players capable of a mid table finish, often (but not always) playing a more direct style.

Better yet, I enjoy listening to numbskulls crow Brexit ball, thugs and lump ball, when Dwight skips past defenders like they’re not there, or we put an inch perfect cross onto Wood’s head.

Makes it easier to identify who actually watches us.