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Professional women!

Post by StuffyClaret » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:12 am

The club really is losing the plot!

We're proud to announce our plans to professionalise @BurnleyFCWomen by integrating the team into @BurnleyOfficial, as part of our long-term strategy to boost women’s football.

One club, for all.

Full story here: https://t.co/qscGX2g6De #UTC https://t.co/Fzp1hh6c7K



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Re: Professional women!

Post by Local cricketer » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:16 am

One club for all. I wondered where the chief exec was appears he is still spouting his nonsense

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Re: Professional women!

Post by NewClaret » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:30 am

Brilliant news.

When you look at the other clubs in the womens championship/PL it's shocking that we don't have a presence. In future, a Womens team will be an integral part of being a successful PL team, I'm sure. Will look forward to watching them play and hearing more on the clubs official channels.

Also really good for the talented young girls across the area, of which I know there are many.

Pleasing that our new chairman is recognising the importance of womens football, esports, etc in building our future.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:37 am

Fine.

As long as I don't have to watch it.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:37 am

I don’t enjoy women’s football. I see they now mix in women’s football news and results with the men’s so it not in a separate section for those interested. It’s more of a case of you will like women’s football even though attendances demonstrate interest levels. Having said all that good to have a women’s team to give hope to those that want to play it. Does it need to be professional ? I’m not so sure.

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Re: Professional women!

Post by StuffyClaret » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:37 am

Rumours that the starting line up from Tuesday night have all been given contracts with the new team have proven unfounded.

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Re: Professional women!

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:37 am

Fully agree, NC.

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Re: Professional women!

Post by Culmclaret » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:39 am

Very positive coverage on the Today programme. Good that we are now recognised as progressive although I know some would prefer the focus to be on the men’s squad.

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Re: Professional women!

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:41 am

Good news, a part of being a modern football club I think although I do wonder if Mr Pace realises there's not much interest from most fans.

I do hope boring men who aren't interested in women's football don't feel the need to keep telling us so, though.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by Inchy » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:41 am

I’ve no issues with women’s football. I’ve no issue with a women’s football team affiliating itself with a men’s team. However, absolutely no funding should come from that created by the men’s team.
Now if the women’s game creates more interest in the men’s game and ticket sales from women go up then it will be worth it funding wise, but if it doesn’t then why should we bother.

If it’s about keeping the female population of Burnley fitter by inspiring them by female footballers then this is something that should be done by the clubs charitable arm
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Re: Professional women!

Post by StTedsOB » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:42 am

Disappointing to be still seeing posts like this in 2021.
Whether you follow or like women’s football or not I’m not sure how you can argue that this isn’t anything but a positive move by the club.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by diamondpocket » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:45 am

I wonder what happens contractually when they get pregnant?

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Re: Professional women!

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:46 am

fatboy47 wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:37 am
Fine.

As long as I don't have to watch it.
Read the fine print on your next season ticket, apparently its committing you to watching at least half of their games next season, or you have to forfeit your ST.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:48 am

Will the club back the manager / manageress

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Re: Professional women!

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:49 am

I do hope boring men who are interested in women's football don't feel the need to keep telling us so, though.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:49 am

Part of the season ticket could be funding it though when you might be buying it just to watch the men’s team. Diverting any funding away from the mens’s team could mean even less entertainment than now. Prices are only going to go one way too.

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Re: Professional women!

Post by Bosscat » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:50 am

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:30 am
Brilliant news.

When you look at the other clubs in the womens championship/PL it's shocking that we don't have a presence. In future, a Womens team will be an integral part of being a successful PL team, I'm sure. Will look forward to watching them play and hearing more on the clubs official channels.

Also really good for the talented young girls across the area, of which I know there are many.

Pleasing that our new chairman is recognising the importance of womens football, esports, etc in building our future.
👍🙂👍
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:46 am
Read the fine print on your next season ticket, apparently its committing you to watching at least half of their games next season, or you have to forfeit your ST.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by StuffyClaret » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:52 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:49 am
Diverting any funding away from the mens’s team could mean even less entertainment than now.


Oh bloody hell!
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Re: Professional women!

Post by joey13 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:55 am

Surely formation of a trans team would be more progressive
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Re: Professional women!

Post by Wellsy1882 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:55 am

No issues with it
Its just plain and simply shite
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Re: Professional women!

Post by Culmclaret » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:56 am

Some staggering posts on this thread already. I feel proud that we are the first to take such an integrated approach.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by pushpinpussy » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:57 am

a lot of men are going to have to learn how to cook now
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Re: Professional women!

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:01 am

Will they be managed by Shona Dyche?

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Re: Professional women!

Post by Inchy » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:03 am

What frustrates me about women’s football is the way it’s propped up by the men’s game.

There are plenty of amateur sports out there, that stay amateur because there isn’t the public interest to make it professional. Clay pigeon shooting for example is an Olympic sport but I doubt there are many full time pros knocking about.

It annoys me how some people think women’s football has the right to be propped up by the men’s game. I’ve seen a few articles where female players are moaning because they don’t get any funding unlike the men. If women’s football offered a product attractive to supporters then it could self fund. I don’t mind if they want to affiliate themselves to a men’s team in order to help with this, but ultimately it should be self funded.
As soon as we go down and money is tight it will be one of the first things to go so it’s better for them to sort themselves out

They may well be self funded at Burnley. That might be the plan. But I doubt it
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Re: Professional women!

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:03 am

It’s know wonder the rest of the country think of Burnley as a town of Neanderthals.

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Re: Professional women!

Post by aggi » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:05 am

I enjoy the "we must build our brand in the US" - "women's football, pah who watches that" posts.

To put it into perspective, a whole professional women's team will probably cost us less than Kevin Long.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by Grumps » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:12 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:03 am
It’s know wonder the rest of the country think of Burnley as a town of Neanderthals.
....... Who didn't go to school, or even learn to read sentences before posting :lol: :lol:

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Re: Professional women!

Post by Wellsy1882 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:12 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:03 am
It’s know wonder the rest of the country think of Burnley as a town of Neanderthals.
*no wonder
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Re: Professional women!

Post by StuffyClaret » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:18 am

Our Alan might set up a soccer scholarship at the University of Central Lancashire (UCL) and attract a load of US sophomores intending to go to University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)

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Re: Professional women!

Post by Bosscat » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:19 am

Wellsy1882 wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:12 am
*no wonder
Had to log in to like this post...

Wellsy correcting spelling 🤣 classic 👍🤭👍
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Re: Professional women!

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:19 am

The women’s team would’ve probably turned our men’s team over on Tuesday.

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Re: Professional women!

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:27 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:03 am
It’s know wonder the rest of the country think of Burnley as a town of Neanderthals.
I mean how could anyone be happy to have a women’s team whilst not enjoying it themselves and wanting it to self fund ? Think this view would be shared by many fans across the country and has nothing to do with ‘Burnley’ or ‘Neanderthals’. Do the rest of the country really think this it is just that you think they do ?

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Re: Professional women!

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:27 am

A few points.

There is a very strong upsurge in women's football in the area with teams sprouting up all the time.

The team is currently funded through our community side, so funds might be able to be diverted to places needed more.

It will help the club brand grow. On the news more and America loves it. We might even bring star American players over for the publicity and benefit of the team

It was a little sad the town of Burnley produced an English international goalkeeper but had to play for Everton as Burnley had no team.

In better weather they could play on the Turf straight after a game, if we have the Saturday 12.30 slot. Keep the kiosks open. Have a family funday in the fan zone area.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by jackmiggins » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:27 am

diamondpocket wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:45 am
I wonder what happens contractually when they get pregnant?
Good grief! You do realise that our men’s team all have mothers?
Why on earth shouldn’t girls and women be promoted in such a fashion? Because it’s a man’s game? Remember, it wasn’t until 140 years ago, a mere flicker in evolution.
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Post by mikeS » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:28 am

Great move by the club.
I’d pay to watch that rather than the dross served up on Tuesday
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Re: Professional women!

Post by jackmiggins » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:33 am

Dyched wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:28 am
Well that’s got a few privileged middle age white blokes rattled. They’ll be frothing at the mouth until lunch time.
So endeth the sermon from Frothy the froth mouthed.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by diamondpocket » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:36 am

jackmiggins wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:27 am
Good grief! You do realise that our men’s team all have mothers?
Why on earth shouldn’t girls and women be promoted in such a fashion? Because it’s a man’s game? Remember, it wasn’t until 140 years ago, a mere flicker in evolution.
What are you babbling on about? Please highlight where I said girls or women shouldn't have the chance to play footy professionally.
I'm a sports agent and looking at getting into women's footy. Do you think women who become pregnant as a football player then just carry on playing like normal? That'd be a smart idea. It'd be interesting to know what happens contractually for pregnant players? Is it considered like an injury? Players still get paid even though they can't play.

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Post by StTedsOB » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:41 am

diamondpocket wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:36 am
What are you babbling on about? Please highlight where I said girls or women shouldn't have the chance to play footy professionally.
I'm a sports agent and looking at getting into women's footy. Do you think women who become pregnant as a football player then just carry on playing like normal? That'd be a smart idea. It'd be interesting to know what happens contractually for pregnant players? Is it considered like an injury? Players still get paid even though they can't play.
If you are a sports agent why don’t you talk to another sports agent to get the answer to a question that will have been answered by the women’s game decades ago.
Just to clarify Burnley FC has not just invented women’s professional football with this announcement. Just like pregnancy it’s been around for a while !
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Post by Zlatan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:41 am

diamondpocket wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:36 am
What are you babbling on about? Please highlight where I said girls or women shouldn't have the chance to play footy professionally.
I'm a sports agent and looking at getting into women's footy. Do you think women who become pregnant as a football player then just carry on playing like normal? That'd be a smart idea. It'd be interesting to know what happens contractually for pregnant players? Is it considered like an injury? Players still get paid even though they can't play.
I would suggest that if you are a sports agent then you should look within your peers for advice on this, and not on a football forum where the majority of the contributors wont have any idea about the subject. I can only conclude that your original post was designed to garner a specific inflammatory response, if it wasn't I'll apologise in advance.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:42 am

Delighted to see this.
Anything Burnley, I'll follow, and the Ladies have done brilliantly over the last 4 years, successive promotions without the financial clout was impressive.
I check for the results regularly so it will be interesting to see how they progress now.
I hope they are back playing soon.
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Post by karatekid » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 am

diamondpocket wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:45 am
I wonder what happens contractually when they get pregnant?
Well they are going to be sharing Barnfield with the men so that could happen sooner than expected 😆😆😍
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Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:54 am

So JD Sports shop assistants now have the title of Sports Agent, impressive. As long as they haven't gone OTT and given any important jobs to women then I think I'll be able to cope
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Post by Bosscat » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:56 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:54 am
So JD Sports shop assistants now have the title of Sports Agent, impressive. As long as they haven't gone OTT and given any important jobs to women then I think I'll be able to cope
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Re: Professional women!

Post by diamondpocket » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:59 am

It looks like I'm not the monster after all you blood sucking demons looking for a bite! It looks like it is a concern in the modern game:

https://herfootballhub.com/exclusive-ta ... -football/

For those of you interested in the women's game and not only from a spectacle perspective.

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Post by diamondpocket » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:00 am

karatekid wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 am
Well they are going to be sharing Barnfield with the men so that could happen sooner than expected 😆😆😍
Hope they've got Creche facilities!

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Post by Garnerssoap » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:03 am

Knock it all you like but from personal experience it really broadens the fan base. Got 2 daughters who’ve never really been onto the turf as a result of the missus witnessing some spectacular scrapping at Carlisle away the one time I took her. Basically she banned them. The women’s World Cup changed all that and there was a mini rebellion in our house.
Personally it’s a green pitch , a ball, 22 players and a chance of an ale. I’m all for it.
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Re: Professional women!

Post by StTedsOB » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:06 am

diamondpocket wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:59 am
It looks like I'm not the monster after all you blood sucking demons looking for a bite! It looks like it is a concern in the modern game:

https://herfootballhub.com/exclusive-ta ... -football/

For those of you interested in the women's game and not only from a spectacle perspective.
Why is it a concern in the game ? The report says only 1% of players are mothers.
Why is this any different to any professional person (man or woman) deciding to put certain things on hold whilst they focus on their career ?
But purely from your football agents perspective it seems like with 99% of your potential clients not being mothers you can just crack on.

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Re: Professional women!

Post by TsarBomba » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:11 am

daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:41 am
Good news, a part of being a modern football club I think although I do wonder if Mr Pace realises there's not much interest from most fans.

I do hope boring men who aren't interested in women's football don't feel the need to keep telling us so, though.
Yep.

Maybe, just maybe, women’s football isn’t targeting neanderthal men stuck in the past, but rather young girls and women.

And I’ve seen the much expected outrage on social media questioning why are we announcing the women’s team going professional, if we couldn’t strengthen the men’s team in January. It’s pathetic. The two aren’t linked and there’ll be two completely separate budgets.

If you’re not interested, then you don’t really need to comment or watch it, it’s not hard.
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Post by Conroy92 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:13 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:03 am
It’s know wonder the rest of the country think of Burnley as a town of Neanderthals.
Spelling like that helps....
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Re: Professional women!

Post by diamondpocket » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:25 am

StTedsOB wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:06 am
Why is it a concern in the game ? The report says only 1% of players are mothers.
Why is this any different to any professional person (man or woman) deciding to put certain things on hold whilst they focus on their career ?
But purely from your football agents perspective it seems like with 99% of your potential clients not being mothers you can just crack on.
Oh yeah, for the agents it's a nice new field to exploit as publicity of the game grows.
There's a concern about the stigma of having children at clubs as highlighted by the cases in the article, which may affect future contracts, returning to playing at that club. Fortunately, Doncaster Belles helped out the player in the article but it sounds like there aren't many that willing. It does read like it is slowly changing. I agree it isnt any different to other professions but clearly there's a stigma and negatives around having a kid as pro female football player.

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