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How many will be here next season?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:10 pm

How many of our top players will be here next season?

Pope - I think we have one more season out of him.
Tarks - I think he goes to Leicester or West Ham in summer
Mee - will retire at Burnley
McNeil - think he will push to leave this summer, similar to Tarks last year. Be whether or not club can afford to keep him.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:14 pm

Depends which division we're in. And that's by no means certain.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:18 pm

I'm hoping we only lose Tarks if you understand what im saying.

I don't want to lose any of them obviously but Tarks looks likely sadly and if he goes then he goes with my blessing

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by tiger76 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:20 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:10 pm
How many of our top players will be here next season?

Pope - I think we have one more season out of him.
Tarks - I think he goes to Leicester or West Ham in summer
Mee - will retire at Burnley
McNeil - think he will push to leave this summer, similar to Tarks last year. Be whether or not club can afford to keep him.
Assuming we remain a PL team, then I can only see Tarks leaving out of that quartet, as you say Mee will be here for the duration of his career, and both McNeil and Pope have long-term contracts, so anybody wanting either of them will have to dig deep, we really have no choice but to sell Tarks this summer as we can't afford for him to walk for free next summer, we've already had Hendrick & Brady running their contracts down and leaving for nothing, and we paid £10m+ for both of them.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:22 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:20 pm
Assuming we remain a PL team, then I can only see Tarks leaving out of that quartet, as you say Mee will be here for the duration of his career, and both McNeil and Pope have long-term contracts, so anybody wanting either of them will have to dig deep, we really have no choice but to sell Tarks this summer as we can't afford for him to walk for free next summer, we've already had Hendrick & Brady running their contracts down and leaving for nothing, and we paid £10m+ for both of them.
I can really see McNeil actively pushing to leave this summer, might be wrong but just get the impression he doesn’t enjoy playing football here

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Jeffbfc » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:24 pm

Fans that might be a different answer 😄

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:25 pm

Think McNeil still has a lot of developing to do and he’ll get the game time with us. Another season will benefit him and us.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:26 pm

Tarkowski will leave don’t expect Pope or McNeil to go unless really silly money is offered. Hopefully we’ll be looking to ship the injury prone duo of Brady and JBG out and bring in two replacements.
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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by tiger76 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:31 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:22 pm
I can really see McNeil actively pushing to leave this summer, might be wrong but just get the impression he doesn’t enjoy playing football here
Well! if he wants a big move then he'd better start producing on a regular basis, he's not hit the heights this season that he did in his previous 2, and he was poor again today in a game that cried out for his talents to unlock a packed defence.
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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Top Claret » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:34 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:26 pm
Tarkowski will leave don’t expect Pope or McNeil to go unless really silly money is offered. Hopefully we’ll be looking to ship the injury prone duo of Brady and JBG out and bring in two replacements.
JBG as just signed a new contract so going nowhere

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:36 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:34 pm
JBG as just signed a new contract so going nowhere
He can still be sold. His future evidently isn’t cut out for top flight football. Same with Brady. Their contract extensions mean we can command some sort of fee for them although be tempting to pay them both up.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Top Claret » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:37 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:36 pm
He can still be sold. His future evidently isn’t cut out for top flight football. Same with Brady. Their contract extensions mean we can command some sort of fee for them although be tempting to pay them both up.
He won't be going anywhere on his wages
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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by tiger76 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:38 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:26 pm
Tarkowski will leave don’t expect Pope or McNeil to go unless really silly money is offered. Hopefully we’ll be looking to ship the injury prone duo of Brady and JBG out and bring in two replacements.
We'll surely see the back of Brady in June his contract is up, and I sincerely hope we don't extend again, he's past it at this level, and we need a younger pacier option on the right, JBG I'm afraid we're stuck with for a while as he's recently signed a new 2 year deal.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:38 pm

Apart from Taylor and Brownhill these four named include three of the youngest members of our squad

Most likely if any leave they will be replaced by older guys and the age of the squad goes up another notch

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:43 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:31 pm
Well! if he wants a big move then he'd better start producing on a regular basis, he's not hit the heights this season that he did in his previous 2, and he was poor again today in a game that cried out for his talents to unlock a packed defence.
I cannot argue with your point. He was a shock when he arrived on the scene, but has he grown and gone on from the marker he put down? For me it is a no. I do not expect a queue of managers desperate to grab him. He needs to be far more consistently effecting games. Is it when he plays well we play well or, when we play well he plays well? He is useful but he is not a game changer for me. Hope he develops further, but not yet.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:46 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:43 pm
I cannot argue with your point. He was a shock when he arrived on the scene, but has he grown and gone on from the marker he put down? For me it is a no. I do not expect a queue of managers desperate to grab him. He needs to be far more consistently effecting games. Is it when he plays well we play well or, when we play well he plays well? He is useful but he is not a game changer for me. Hope he develops further, but not yet.
I see it the other way. I think we are hindering his progress now. He is a flair player and he spends 90 percent of the time chasing shadows. Needs a move to further his development

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Jamesy » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:46 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:22 pm
I can really see McNeil actively pushing to leave this summer, might be wrong but just get the impression he doesn’t enjoy playing football here
Well if someone gives us decent money for him, he can go for me. He is a bit of a one trick pony in my humble opinion.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by nyclaret » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:49 pm

we have got an almighty rebuilding job on our hands
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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:50 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:46 pm
Well if someone gives us decent money for him, he can go for me. He is a bit of a one trick pony in my humble opinion.
It's a shame he's so left footed I must say. He's superb he really is but its scary how much he uses the one foot. This isn't a criticism, it's more an observation and thinking of how good it would be if he could use his right foot with equal ability. If he could Jesus he would be some player

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:50 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:49 pm
we have got an almighty rebuilding job on our hands
And a direct result of the previous windows from seasons past.
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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Barlickclaret » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:02 pm

Pope, mee, mcneil, brownhill, Taylor, wood, and tarks if he stays, are the only players who should be in our starting 11 next season. All rest should be shipped out or sold.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Jamesy » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:04 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:50 pm
It's a shame he's so left footed I must say. He's superb he really is but its scary how much he uses the one foot. This isn't a criticism, it's more an observation and thinking of how good it would be if he could use his right foot with equal ability. If he could Jesus he would be some player
Yes if he was a genuine two footed player he would be some asset. I wasn’t trying to be harsh on the lad with my one trick pony comment, however he is predictable and easier for defenders to work out how to play him.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:05 pm

Barlickclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:02 pm
Pope, mee, mcneil, brownhill, Taylor, wood, and tarks if he stays, are the only players who should be in our starting 11 next season. All rest should be shipped out or sold.
Never going to happen but I do take your point on us needing an overhaul.

I think its harsh on Lowton though and Westwood

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:07 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:04 pm
Yes if he was a genuine two footed player he would be some asset. I wasn’t trying to be harsh on the lad with my one trick pony comment, however he is predictable and easier for defenders to work out how to play him.
No course you weren't mate don't worry about that 👍.

I love watching him play and I think what he needs and what we need more than anything is someone creative to help him out and take the pressure off him a little. Whether that be in centre mid or on the right wing.
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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:27 pm

Barlickclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:02 pm
Pope, mee, mcneil, brownhill, Taylor, wood, and tarks if he stays, are the only players who should be in our starting 11 next season. All rest should be shipped out or sold.
Don’t agree about Brownhill. He looks limited and a bit out of his depth in the PL.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:29 pm

Peacock-Farrell back to Leeds for a decent fee.
McNeil to Leicester
Tarkowski..to the highest bidder, possibly West Ham
Pope to Man Utd with Henderson coming to burnley.

You read it here first!

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:36 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:29 pm
Peacock-Farrell back to Leeds for a decent fee.
McNeil to Leicester
Tarkowski..to the highest bidder, possibly West Ham
Pope to Man Utd with Henderson coming to burnley.

You read it here first!
If all that happened this summer I'd never stop crying Bill
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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:40 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:46 pm
I see it the other way. I think we are hindering his progress now. He is a flair player and he spends 90 percent of the time chasing shadows. Needs a move to further his development
I understand your point, but cannot agree. I think people have been waiting to see how he relates to being found out.... for me I’ve has not shown enough. Probably too one footed to be more than ‘a winger’ for me. Skilful but (very) limited. I wish the lad nothing but success, but I think top players have more to their game... for me Wade Elliott was a far more dangerous winger, but he was never anyway near the Premier until he came up with us.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by nyclaret » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:47 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:27 pm
Don’t agree about Brownhill. He looks limited and a bit out of his depth in the PL.
I disagree. Brownhill would be good playing alongside a more athletic, forward thinking CM.

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by Darthlaw » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:49 pm

Taken from my post last week:

next season (with ages) we're looking like:
Pope (29)

Lowton (32) Long (30) Mee (31) Taylor (27)

JBG (30) Cork (32) Westwood (31) McNeil (21)

Wood (29) Barnes (31)

And you've essentially got £20m (at best) to improve it, after Brentford have taken their slice of the Tarks money

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Re: How many will be here next season?

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:01 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:47 pm
I disagree. Brownhill would be good playing alongside a more athletic, forward thinking CM.
He’s not at his best on the right but, I think Brownhill will benefit massively from being paired with Cork in the middle. I think Westwood is too forward thinking for us to see Brownhill free in the middle, which is where I see him longer term. Attacking midfielder rather than midfielder in old money, think they call it false 10 now.

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