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Lee Grant

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:24 pm

Man Utd have finally found a use for Lee Grant and he didn't even parry it

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:29 pm

Dived over to it with one hand instead of simply picking it up.
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Bosscat » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:39 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:24 pm
Man Utd have finally found a use for Lee Grant and he didn't even parry it

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Why is he not masked up 🤔

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:41 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:39 pm
Why is he not masked up 🤔
After watching him in training the chances of Grant managing to catch anything was deemed negligible at best

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by tim_noone » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:47 pm

Ooo hes tall...

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:08 pm

Thought this was the job of the 4th Official, but then Duncan Ferguson was doing it for a Everton sub yesterday

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by durhamclaret » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:13 pm

Sure I’ve seen Billy Mercer doing it for us.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Bosscat » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:13 pm

durhamclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:13 pm
Sure I’ve seen Billy Mercer doing it for us.
He does Dc

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by morpheus2 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:31 pm

I really thought that nobody else noticed how many goals we conceded from Lee Grant's parrying, he was untouchable on here (claretsmad)

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:39 pm

He was cack in the nets. Parry after parry leading to goal after goal.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by beddie » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:45 am

Are these boards property of the clubs? if so are the 4ths etc not handling them as part of the covid restrictions. That's just a thought, it's just my own take on it.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by chekhov » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:00 am

Supporters’ player of the season (2012-13) if I remember correctly.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Top Claret » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:01 am

Grant was a far better keeper than Jensen
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:32 am

Our keepers for a number of years were all much of a muchness.

The difference when we actually signed a good one in Heaton was staggering.
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:50 am

It wasn’t so much the ones he parried for me (of which there were plenty) it was the amount that burst through his wrist. He seemed to get a glove on loads of goals but not keep them out

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Rowls » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:19 am

morpheus2 wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:31 pm
I really thought that nobody else noticed how many goals we conceded from Lee Grant's parrying, he was untouchable on here (claretsmad)
Certainly not. I think you're mis-remembering.

Maybe we never saw the best of him but the best spell he ever had was the half season he had under Dyche.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:38 am

Can never forgive him for a truly pathetic one-handed flap at a Hitzelsperger shot at West Ham in a cup tie I went to. Loved a parry back into the danger area with all his heart.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:44 am

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:01 am
Grant was a far better keeper than Jensen
Now there's a debate !

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Grumps » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:04 am

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:44 am
Now there's a debate !
Not really.. :D

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ksrclaret » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:14 am

I always remember him spilling a shot at Leeds to gift them all 3 points in the last minute after we’d done so well with 10 men for an hour.

Also, the time he parried a free kick at Reading when Ben Mee had to then stick his head into someone’s boot to save a goal.

Also, a game against Birmingham at home when he parried a weak effort... I could go on, but you get the idea.
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:18 am

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:08 pm
Thought this was the job of the 4th Official, but then Duncan Ferguson was doing it for a Everton sub yesterday
No longer. Each club has to have its own board. Micky Phelan often does it for Man U, it's usually Billy Mercer for us.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:20 am

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:01 am
Grant was a far better keeper than Jensen
He'd just won all the player of the year awards when he left, he'd had an exceptional season. We've improved since, undoubtedly with Tom Heaton and Nick Pope but there shouldn't be any debate between Grant and Jensen, Grant was by far the better keeper.
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Conroy92 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:22 am

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:01 am
Grant was a far better keeper than Jensen
If your talking consistency then maybe but the back end of the promotion season under Coyle and the first season back in the prem he actually did a great job for us. People forget that as his time with us was littered with inconsistencies, mistakes and transfer requests but I think for that spell of around a year and a half Jensen was better than Grant.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:28 am

Grumps wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:04 am
Not really.. :D
Oh yes there is ! ;)

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:31 am

Conroy92 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:22 am
I think for that spell of around a year and a half Jensen was better than Grant.
The save v Manure and the Reading game (Home) will always make him a legend in my mind :)

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Top Claret » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:49 am

Conroy92 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:22 am
If your talking consistency then maybe but the back end of the promotion season under Coyle and the first season back in the prem he actually did a great job for us. People forget that as his time with us was littered with inconsistencies, mistakes and transfer requests but I think for that spell of around a year and a half Jensen was better than Grant.
I can only remember Jensen actually having one good season and that was the promotion one under Coyle. The rest of the time he was a comedy of errors, the 2009/10 being the stand out with embarrassing displays away at Ewood and home to Wigan.

It amazes me he played at the level he did, he couldn't read the game and his frame was far to bulky for the modern game
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Garnerssoap » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:02 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:14 am
I always remember him spilling a shot at Leeds to gift them all 3 points in the last minute after we’d done so well with 10 men for an hour.

Also, the time he parried a free kick at Reading when Ben Mee had to then stick his head into someone’s boot to save a goal.

Also, a game against Birmingham at home when he parried a weak effort... I could go on, but you get the idea.
The leeds one hurt. I think he did it twice in the last few minutes. Seem to recall we were winning. Might be wrong - it was a good sup that day - Whalley clarets were about 20 strong( including one *******)

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:40 pm

Goalkeepers really have a long fruitful career if they can stay reasonably fit

Grant is now 38 and made his debut over 20 years ago, and will have been at Utd for 3 years this summer

According to Spotrac he is currently on £30k per week or £1.5m per year

20 years of putting a bit of money into the piggy bank will have accumulated into a decent pension pot

Remember listening to Alan Brazil a few years back on his breakfast show when, in talks with an agent, it was suggested that a Premier League player (on average wages) only needs to be with a club for 5 years to set up a pension that you or I could only dream of

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Foulthrow » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:46 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:01 am
Grant was a far better keeper than Jensen
Don’t know whether you mean Lee or Tony. You’re correct either way.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Grumps » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:07 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:49 am
I can only remember Jensen actually having one good season and that was the promotion one under Coyle. The rest of the time he was a comedy of errors, the 2009/10 being the stand out with embarrassing displays away at Ewood and home to Wigan.

It amazes me he played at the level he did, he couldn't read the game and his frame was far to bulky for the modern game
The home game against Wigan did it for me... Even his own players didn't believe he was injured...

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Grumps » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:08 pm

Foulthrow wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:46 pm
Don’t know whether you mean Lee or Tony. You’re correct either way.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:20 pm

Of course Lee Grant was a better goalkeeper than Jensen but considering Jensen was 35 and on the decline and Grant was about 28 and was the goalkeeper we spent some of our Premier League money on to replace Jensen I would have been shocked if he wasn't.

If we spend a few million on a right back this summer then i'll be bloody disappointed if the following season he doesn't look that much better than Bardsley and struggles to displace him in the team.

For two years Grant barely looked any better then Jensen and only really looked a good Championship keeper in his final season with us and then he sodded off to get more cash

Compare that to Jensen who was brought in when we were struggling at the bottom of the Championship to replace Marlon Beresford. Jensen was a big improvement and he went on to make 200 appearance in the following 6 season culmination of promotion to the Premier League for which his performances was key.

For where we were and what we could afford Jensen was a brilliant signing and servant for us whilst Grant was one of several poor signings Laws made when he had a decent kitty of money to bolster a decent squad to have a really good go at getting back up to the Premier League

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:31 pm

Its been done to death. But was Grant a better keeper than Jensen? Arguably.

Was he a better signing of better for Burnley? Far from it. As DA points out above. All things considered Jensen was far better, cost less and had way more highs than Grant did.

I don't think Grant was a bad keeper. But what did he do that lives in the memory?

He is much like Danny Coyne. Decent keeper who we had high hopes for but didn't really achieve much here.

Even if the only thing Jensen did was have that good promotion season (which isnt only what he did) he still did more than 90% of our keepers ever did!
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by IanMcL » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:28 pm

morpheus2 wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:31 pm
I really thought that nobody else noticed how many goals we conceded from Lee Grant's parrying, he was untouchable on here (claretsmad)
Not according to my posts, at the time.

One good game against Villa in League Cup.

CT loved him, so it was a given.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:48 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:28 pm
Not according to my posts, at the time.

One good game against Villa in League Cup.

CT loved him, so it was a given.
I can vaguely remember that game. But other than that nothing to write home about either way.

In terms of impact. He’s not in our top five keepers of the last thirty years.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:55 pm

Sometimes it's possible just to not like how a goalkeeper keeps goal. I was like that with Grant, it doesn't mean I thought he was rubbish, just not one of my favourites.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Conroy92 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:14 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:49 am
I can only remember Jensen actually having one good season and that was the promotion one under Coyle. The rest of the time he was a comedy of errors, the 2009/10 being the stand out with embarrassing displays away at Ewood and home to Wigan.

It amazes me he played at the level he did, he couldn't read the game and his frame was far to bulky for the modern game
I'd agree to an extent, like I say for the first part of the prem season I thought he was ok and he even won us some points against United and Everton with penalty saves and the promotion season he was excellent, so I'd say he was good for a season and a half. I agree that considering he spent 10 years with us that only a season and a half good patch is not a good record and I know too well that he had a mistake him in. (I remember him coming out and rugby tackling Kevin Doyle I think?)

I think for the job Jensen did playing in the promotion season and the cup run he should be remembered fondly.

Back to OP, There are lots of moments I will remember Jensen for, many mistakes but amongst them some top saves and great moments (penalty saves, 1-1's) . When I think back to Grant I have hardly any memories.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:25 pm

Surprised it's taken so long........


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Re: Lee Grant

Post by 3putt » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:05 am

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:44 am
Now there's a debate !
that’s never been had! :D

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by 3putt » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:13 am

His favourite trick was to make an unnecessary spectacular dive for a tame shot and still let it in!🙄🥴
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by 3putt » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:17 am

His favourite trick was to make an unnecessary spectacular dive for a tame shot and still let it in!🙄🥴

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:41 am

The Beast was outstanding v Chelsea in the league cup giving us a great night out
I recall Lee giving us nightmare with his attempt at being a solid keeper
Fair play to him 3rd choice at Manure and getting paid for it

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