Categorising our Squad
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Categorising our Squad
Leaving out the young lads who are obviously still developing where would you place our first team squad within the following categories. I've included my view and think the majority on here would agree me.
Too Good for Burnley
Pope
Tarks
McNeil
As Good as it Gets
Mee
Taylor
Cork
Woods
Bang Average
Pieters
Lowton
Westwood
Barnes
Jay-Rod
JBG
Brownhill
Peacock-Farrell
Not up to Scratch
Long
Bardsley
Brady
Vydra
Stephens
Too Good for Burnley
Pope
Tarks
McNeil
As Good as it Gets
Mee
Taylor
Cork
Woods
Bang Average
Pieters
Lowton
Westwood
Barnes
Jay-Rod
JBG
Brownhill
Peacock-Farrell
Not up to Scratch
Long
Bardsley
Brady
Vydra
Stephens
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Who is this guy Woods ?
I would also drop Cork and WOOD down a level
I would also drop Cork and WOOD down a level
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Not too dissimilar but with an added category.
Too Good for Burnley
Pope
Tarks
As Good as it Gets
McNeil - Seen the swallows, but I'm still waiting for Summer.
Mee
Taylor
Wood
JBG (When fit)
Bang Average
Cork
Pieters
Lowton
Westwood
Brownhill
Peacock-Farrell
Bardsley (Final season in this bracket)
Up for debate due to form
Barnes
Jay-Rod
Vydra
Not up to Scratch
Long
Brady
Stephens
Too Good for Burnley
Pope
Tarks
As Good as it Gets
McNeil - Seen the swallows, but I'm still waiting for Summer.
Mee
Taylor
Wood
JBG (When fit)
Bang Average
Cork
Pieters
Lowton
Westwood
Brownhill
Peacock-Farrell
Bardsley (Final season in this bracket)
Up for debate due to form
Barnes
Jay-Rod
Vydra
Not up to Scratch
Long
Brady
Stephens
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We’ll have to wait and see how Woods surgery went before categorising him.
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Before we start categorising players, the categories themselves could do with some work.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:31 pmLeaving out the young lads who are obviously still developing where would you place our first team squad within the following categories. I've included my view and think the majority on here would agree me.
Too Good for Burnley
Pope
Tarks
McNeil
As Good as it Gets
Mee
Taylor
Cork
Woods
Bang Average
Pieters
Lowton
Westwood
Barnes
Jay-Rod
JBG
Brownhill
Peacock-Farrell
Not up to Scratch
Long
Bardsley
Brady
Vydra
Stephens
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Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:31 pmLeaving out the young lads who are obviously still developing where would you place our first team squad within the following categories. I've included my view and think the majority on here would agree me.
Too Good for Burnley
Pope
Tarks
McNeil
As Good as it Gets
Mee- young player required (for when's his legs go)
Taylor
Cork- young player required (for when his legs go)
Woods- ok for now
Bang Average
Pieters- happy as a squad player for another year
Lowton- happy as a squad player for another year
Westwood- ok for now
Barnes- Upgrade required
Jay-Rod- Upgrade required
JBG- Shakes off the injuries or update required
Brownhill- Play in the center (still needs time)
Peacock-Farrell- Needs game time
Not up to Scratch
Long- upgrade required
Bardsley- upgrade required
Brady- Replacement needed
Vydra- upgrade required
Stephens- replacement needed
Along with the above we also need a new right midfielder and possible a CB when Tarks goes. That's 9 players in an ideal world I'd upgrade/replace or look to bed a young lad in for the next season or so. Realistically we need to sign at least 3-4 first teamers this window to aid in the rebuilding job. Players like Mee and Cork are fine for the first team now but we need to be thinking about who's next when there legs start to go.
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This is the proverbial can that has been kicked down the road for too many windows.Conroy92 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:47 pmAlong with the above we also need a new right midfielder and possible a CB when Tarks goes. That's 9 players in an ideal world I'd upgrade/replace or look to bed a young lad in for the next season or so. Realistically we need to sign at least 3-4 first teamers this window to aid in the rebuilding job. Players like Mee and Cork are fine for the first team now but we need to be thinking about who's next when there legs start to go.
We’ve stored up an issue that is starting to return the sort of recruitment numbers that in themselves would be difficult, even if we weren’t operating a very tight budget.
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I’m not sure what is meant by the “as good as it gets” category- does it mean those players are as good as Burnley will get in their position, or that the players themselves as are as good as they’ll get?
I’d certainly have McNeil in the second category though, I think he’s still got a lot of improving to do if he wants to play a level above us. And Chris Wood is an interesting one too, his goals record is deserving of the second category, but his ability with the ball is definitely not.
I’d certainly have McNeil in the second category though, I think he’s still got a lot of improving to do if he wants to play a level above us. And Chris Wood is an interesting one too, his goals record is deserving of the second category, but his ability with the ball is definitely not.
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Agree completely.
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What about the categories “was ok but not this week” and “I’ve changed my mind on this one” plus “this one’s an enigma”
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Reminds of an anecdote once told by one of my teachers, Mr Lawson, about a rust spot on a car door.
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Too Good for Burnley
Pope
Tarks
As Good as it Gets
McNeil
Mee
Taylor
Cork
Wood
Westwood
JBG (when fit)
Bang Average
Pieters
Lowton
Barnes
Jay-Rod
Brownhill
Peacock-Farrell
Bardsley
Vydra
Not up to Scratch
Long
Brady
Stephens
Pope
Tarks
As Good as it Gets
McNeil
Mee
Taylor
Cork
Wood
Westwood
JBG (when fit)
Bang Average
Pieters
Lowton
Barnes
Jay-Rod
Brownhill
Peacock-Farrell
Bardsley
Vydra
Not up to Scratch
Long
Brady
Stephens
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I’ve made a couple of changes, moving players down. Think it’s fairly evident to all that a big summer in the transfer window is a must if we stay up. At least 6 players needed.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:31 pmLeaving out the young lads who are obviously still developing where would you place our first team squad within the following categories. I've included my view and think the majority on here would agree me.
Too Good for Burnley
Pope - Yep
Tarks - Yep
As Good as it Gets
McNeil
Mee
Cork
Wood
Bang Average
Taylor
Pieters
Lowton
Westwood
Barnes
Jay-Rod
JBG
Brownhill
Peacock-Farrell
Bardsley
Not up to Scratch
Long
Brady
Vydra
Stephens
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As good as it gets was meant for players who are about as good as we could hope for in their position and who we wouldn't think about upgrading but at the same time are players we should be able to keep hold of because they are not going to be chased by the top clubs like Trippier, Ings and Keane were.ksrclaret wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:05 pmI’m not sure what is meant by the “as good as it gets” category- does it mean those players are as good as Burnley will get in their position, or that the players themselves as are as good as they’ll get?
I’d certainly have McNeil in the second category though, I think he’s still got a lot of improving to do if he wants to play a level above us. And Chris Wood is an interesting one too, his goals record is deserving of the second category, but his ability with the ball is definitely not.
Ben Mee is about as perfect an example of this you could get for our club
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Players Who Have Played For Aston Villa
Matt Lowton
Ashley Westwood
Players With Side Partings
JBG
Charlie Taylor
Ben Mee
Dwight McNeil
Erik Pieters
Players Born Outside the UK
Chris Wood
Matej Vydra
Robbie Brady
Kevin Long
JBG
Erik Pieters
Left Footed Players
Robbie Brady
Dwight McNeil
JBG
Erik Pieters
Charlie Taylor
Ben Mee
Players Who Look Scary
James Tarkowski
Phil Bardsley
Ben Mee
Erik Pieters
Ashley Barnes
Players Who Were Born After Our Wembley '94 Play Off Final
Dwight McNeil
Bailey Peacock-Farrell
Players Who Can Recognized By 3 Initials
JBG
BPF
Players Described On The Official Website As "Second Striker"
Jay Rodriguez
Players Who I Think Would Be Likely To Get The First Round In
BPF
Nick Pope
Charlie Taylor
Matt Lowton
Jack Cork
Robbie Brady
Kevin Long
Ashley Barnes
Dale Stephens
Players Who I Haven't Put Into Any Other Category
Will Norris
Jimmy Dunne
Josh Brownhill
Players With Potato Shaped Heads
Dale Stephens
Matt Lowton
Ashley Westwood
Players With Side Partings
JBG
Charlie Taylor
Ben Mee
Dwight McNeil
Erik Pieters
Players Born Outside the UK
Chris Wood
Matej Vydra
Robbie Brady
Kevin Long
JBG
Erik Pieters
Left Footed Players
Robbie Brady
Dwight McNeil
JBG
Erik Pieters
Charlie Taylor
Ben Mee
Players Who Look Scary
James Tarkowski
Phil Bardsley
Ben Mee
Erik Pieters
Ashley Barnes
Players Who Were Born After Our Wembley '94 Play Off Final
Dwight McNeil
Bailey Peacock-Farrell
Players Who Can Recognized By 3 Initials
JBG
BPF
Players Described On The Official Website As "Second Striker"
Jay Rodriguez
Players Who I Think Would Be Likely To Get The First Round In
BPF
Nick Pope
Charlie Taylor
Matt Lowton
Jack Cork
Robbie Brady
Kevin Long
Ashley Barnes
Dale Stephens
Players Who I Haven't Put Into Any Other Category
Will Norris
Jimmy Dunne
Josh Brownhill
Players With Potato Shaped Heads
Dale Stephens
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Some excellent categories but can’t see Brady getting a round in
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He's Irish. He might not *want* to but he'll know the score.SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:42 pmSome excellent categories but can’t see Brady getting a round in
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NO-ONE IS TOO GOOD FOR BURNLEY!
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McNeil has to start contributing a few more goals and assists before getting close to being “too good for Burnley”. I don’t see any evidence he is at the level of wingers or attacking midfielders like Townsend or Hudson-Odoi who both have a better record this season.
I think he has all the potential, and playing will develop this, not sitting on a bench.
I think he has all the potential, and playing will develop this, not sitting on a bench.
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This. It does make you wonder if the new owners actually anticipated this. I don’t think Garlick would have been emphasising the issue before the deal went through.
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I agree with the original poster, except I would drop McNeil to the ‘bang average’ category. His mistakes/ lack of tracking etc have probably cost us as many goals as he’s assisted/ scored himself in this last season and a half.
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This poster has constantly got the fishing rod out, the deliberate mis spelling of wood and the absurd categories make me want to add a further category.
Must try harder - DA.
Must try harder - DA.
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If Cork's as good as it gets we're truly screwed, bang average player for a long while. Wood is another bang average player too, scores the odd goal but he can't play football.
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Players who regularly get injured putting out the recycling:
Brady
JBG
Brady
JBG
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Rowls wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:36 pmPlayers Who Have Played For Aston Villa
Matt Lowton
Ashley Westwood
Players With Side Partings
JBG
Charlie Taylor
Ben Mee
Dwight McNeil
Erik Pieters
Players Born Outside the UK
Chris Wood
Matej Vydra
Robbie Brady
Kevin Long
JBG
Erik Pieters
Left Footed Players
Robbie Brady
Dwight McNeil
JBG
Erik Pieters
Charlie Taylor
Ben Mee
Players Who Look Scary
James Tarkowski
Phil Bardsley
Ben Mee
Erik Pieters
Ashley Barnes
Players Who Were Born After Our Wembley '94 Play Off Final
Dwight McNeil
Bailey Peacock-Farrell
Players Who Can Recognized By 3 Initials
JBG
BPF
Players Described On The Official Website As "Second Striker"
Jay Rodriguez
Players Who I Think Would Be Likely To Get The First Round In
BPF
Nick Pope
Charlie Taylor
Matt Lowton
Jack Cork
Robbie Brady
Kevin Long
Ashley Barnes
Dale Stephens
Players Who I Haven't Put Into Any Other Category
Will Norris
Jimmy Dunne
Josh Brownhill
Players With Potato Shaped Heads
Dale Stephens
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"Last Chance Saloon"
About 9 of our squad.
I don't need to name them, we all know they'll be lucky to get a contract at another PL club when their current deal runs out.
About 9 of our squad.
I don't need to name them, we all know they'll be lucky to get a contract at another PL club when their current deal runs out.
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Hi Rowls, interesting...
Who would you put in the category Player(s) Who I Think Would Be Likely To Get Every Round In?
UTC
EDIT: I've got rid of the bold and underline, now.
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Hi PaulPaul Waine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:43 pmHi Rowls, interesting...
Who would you put in the category Player(s) Who I Think Would Be Likely To Get Every Round In?
UTC
EDIT: I've got rid of the bold and underline, now.
As generous as we were against Spuds I don’t think any of them are daft enough to get *every* round in.
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Hottest wife?Rowls wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:36 pmPlayers Who Have Played For Aston Villa
Matt Lowton
Ashley Westwood
Players With Side Partings
JBG
Charlie Taylor
Ben Mee
Dwight McNeil
Erik Pieters
Players Born Outside the UK
Chris Wood
Matej Vydra
Robbie Brady
Kevin Long
JBG
Erik Pieters
Left Footed Players
Robbie Brady
Dwight McNeil
JBG
Erik Pieters
Charlie Taylor
Ben Mee
Players Who Look Scary
James Tarkowski
Phil Bardsley
Ben Mee
Erik Pieters
Ashley Barnes
Players Who Were Born After Our Wembley '94 Play Off Final
Dwight McNeil
Bailey Peacock-Farrell
Players Who Can Recognized By 3 Initials
JBG
BPF
Players Described On The Official Website As "Second Striker"
Jay Rodriguez
Players Who I Think Would Be Likely To Get The First Round In
BPF
Nick Pope
Charlie Taylor
Matt Lowton
Jack Cork
Robbie Brady
Kevin Long
Ashley Barnes
Dale Stephens
Players Who I Haven't Put Into Any Other Category
Will Norris
Jimmy Dunne
Josh Brownhill
Players With Potato Shaped Heads
Dale Stephens
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our squad - punching well above it's weight
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A lot of our players are overused due to small squad and would improve dramatically at a club with a bigger squad. McNeil and Tarks for example Play week in and week out
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Rowls you are sometimes such a card !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bardsley not good enough, according to some. He always does well when called on.
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Players signed from Brighton, Leeds, Stoke, Villa & Charlton
Barnes
Stephens
Taylor
Wood
Bardsley
Pieters
Westwood
Lowton
Pope
Gudmundsson
Peacock-Farrell
Players signed from elsewhere/homegrown
Vydra
Rodriguez
Cork
Brownhill
Mee
McNeil
Brady
Long
Dunne
Barnes
Stephens
Taylor
Wood
Bardsley
Pieters
Westwood
Lowton
Pope
Gudmundsson
Peacock-Farrell
Players signed from elsewhere/homegrown
Vydra
Rodriguez
Cork
Brownhill
Mee
McNeil
Brady
Long
Dunne
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Bang average has to be one of the most boring dumbest terms used to describe footballers.
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It’s perhaps a good job you are not standing in local elections then if you think the majority on here would agree with you?Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:31 pmLeaving out the young lads who are obviously still developing where would you place our first team squad within the following categories. I've included my view and think the majority on here would agree me.
Too Good for Burnley
Pope
Tarks
McNeil
As Good as it Gets
Mee
Taylor
Cork
Woods
Bang Average
Pieters
Lowton
Westwood
Barnes
Jay-Rod
JBG
Brownhill
Peacock-Farrell
Not up to Scratch
Long
Bardsley
Brady
Vydra
Stephens
If you were I think you would be in danger of losing your deposit.
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I have to disagree with you I am sorry to say. Maybe not all the shouty people on here agree with me all the time but with most of the views I share the silent majority definitely are in agreement and this thread is no exception.
My advice to you would be to just think about my opening post a littler deeper and continue to keep it in your mind over the next couple of months and I think you will come around and see the error of your ways
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I admire your optimism.
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This I can definitely agree with
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Yes. Vydra is definitely in the Peter Crouch school of punching above his weight.
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This thread does a great disservice to our players IMHO.
Close it down Mr Moderator...................please?
Close it down Mr Moderator...................please?