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I was hopeful

Post by Bcrollerz » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:17 pm

As we are playing San Marino
But tonight reminds me of why i stopped watching England
Awful

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by tiger76 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:27 pm

Awful is an interesting adjective to use.

1st half was decent, but I agree 2nd half England have gone into 3rd gear, but its difficult to assess a performance when the opponents simply camp in their own penalty area.

It's mismatches like this that make a mockery of international football, and the sooner some type of seeding system comes in that means teams play against equivalent opposition all the better.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Sheedyclaret » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:32 pm

Just a pointless game didn't watch it myself the u21s were bad enough earlier on.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Bcrollerz » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:39 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:27 pm
Awful is an interesting adjective to use.

1st half was decent, but I agree 2nd half England have gone into 3rd gear, but its difficult to assess a performance when the opponents simply camp in their own penalty area.

It's mismatches like this that make a mockery of international football, and the sooner some type of seeding system comes in that means teams play against equivalent opposition all the better.
Maybe underwhelming is a better way of putting it
Expected more. Didnt get it.
Funny thing is you knew before kick off we wouldnt bag what other teams do against them

1 goal in the 2nd half isnt on really

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:46 pm

Sarfgate has been studying City. Pass, pass,pass,pasz, pasz, pazz, pazz, pzzz, pzzz, zzzzzzzzzzzz.
Utterly awful with zero entertainment. If all English teams keep tuning in to Pep the PL will die. English fans want goal mouth action not meaningless passes.
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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Bcrollerz » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:49 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:46 pm
Sarfgate has been studying City. Pass, pass,pass,pasz, pasz, pazz, pazz, pzzz, pzzz, zzzzzzzzzzzz.
Utterly awful with zero entertainment. If all English teams keep tuning in to Pep the PL will die. English fans want goal mouth action not meaningless passes.
Did you notice out of the 30 plus shots, how many were from outside of the box
I hate it when they try and walk the ball into the net
Have a pop from range

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:49 pm

I switched off at half time when I that they were making 4 substitutions for the second half

Thought that was quite disrespectful to Sam Marino tbh and made it more into a friendly than a World Cup qualification game

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:58 pm

I switched on at half time... imagine how pro-Southgate I feel right now. That that will be spun as a creditable performance only tells you he expects little more from his multi-millionaires, against the lads who will be tipping in to their day jobs tomorrow.

Great for Pope, but the media seems a deluded as ever about Southgate’s England for me.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Belial » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:01 pm

I only watched because of Pope starting (not that he was expected to do much) and it confirmed just how boring it is watching England. The same old tripe being mentioned about really good youngsters, and a plethora of options when we beat a team we should do, but it'll be the usual stuff when we face anyone decent. There a noticeable love-in for Villa it seems too

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:08 pm

Bcrollerz wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:39 pm
Maybe underwhelming is a better way of putting it
Expected more. Didnt get it.
Funny thing is you knew before kick off we wouldnt bag what other teams do against them

1 goal in the 2nd half isnt on really
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Mar ... am_results

We didn't do bad compared to others, or is your issue we didn't score 9 or 10?

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:23 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:27 pm
Awful is an interesting adjective to use.

1st half was decent, but I agree 2nd half England have gone into 3rd gear, but its difficult to assess a performance when the opponents simply camp in their own penalty area.

It's mismatches like this that make a mockery of international football, and the sooner some type of seeding system comes in that means teams play against equivalent opposition all the better.
Expect far smaller pools in terms of round structures if that did ever happen, the smaller minnows however mismatched make the numbers up allowing for more rounds until you get to the later stages, we would all like to see Spain vs Germany etc etc but a start needs to happen to enable a progressive finish.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Bcrollerz » Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:17 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:08 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Mar ... am_results

We didn't do bad compared to others, or is your issue we didn't score 9 or 10?
Yes

31 shots commands at least 10 goals with them so called superstars vs part time worst ranked

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by BenWickes » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:47 am

I tuned in to watch the team in blue zipping the ball to feet. After a couple of minutes I commented out loud. 'This San Marino team don't look like the world's worst team, they look quite comfortable', My wife stared at me with a puzzled look then started laughing. 'We're playing in BLUE!' She screams. :oops:
How often do we play in blue? Thought we'd be in red if they were in white.
Game was pretty poor though.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:22 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:46 pm
Sarfgate has been studying City. Pass, pass,pass,pasz, pasz, pazz, pazz, pzzz, pzzz, zzzzzzzzzzzz.
Utterly awful with zero entertainment. If all English teams keep tuning in to Pep the PL will die. English fans want goal mouth action not meaningless passes.
I like the way Peps teams play. The problem is no one else has the players to adopt that system. Certainly not England.
A good manager plays to his players strengths, he doesn't try to adopt someone else's.
I wish Southgate would drop off the face of the earth, but sadly even if he went the FA would only appoint another in his ilk. As long as football is run by business men instead of football people, we are shafted.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by MACCA » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:41 am

Yep dont usually bother watching England ( under southgate more so ) however made an exception as Pope was playing and the wife had a bath so no box set to continue with.

Nothing much has changed, decent first 30 mins, but generally flat, boring and with no urgency.

Other teams wallop these and try and really put them to the sword, however we seem content with just doing the job.

Turned off at 70 mins and got an early night in.
Hopefully I wont fall for it again next time, hurry up Pickford get fit so I dont need to tune in.


On a side note I cannot believe Southfate said in his pre match interview he knew his starting 11 for Croatia in June, no wonder the players look like they're going through the motions.
The yes man has already got his favourites, so if he keeps the media happy and onside, he might ride out a other 18 months to 2 years as a manager, as it probably will be his last job.
Tactically inept.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Tribesmen » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:49 am

Hey not sure who was MOTM but the San M keeper had a great game .

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by pushpinpussy » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:50 am

The usual rubbish on here from the usual suspects. A 5-0 win is still not good enough. People who use this message board are so negative and depressive. You need to start changing your pattern thoughts as ive also noticed the negative people are also the ones who fill the board up with their mental health issues. Your lives are impacted by reoccurring negative thoughts. it might be time to talk to your doctors for some help. Good luck.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Bcrollerz » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:54 am

Tribesmen wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:49 am
Hey not sure who was MOTM but the San M keeper had a great game .
He made some top saves

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by CFS » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:54 am

pushpinpussy wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:50 am
The usual rubbish on here from the usual suspects. A 5-0 win is still not good enough. People who use this message board are so negative and depressive. You need to start changing your pattern thoughts as ive also noticed the negative people are also the ones who fill the board up with their mental health issues. Your lives are impacted by reoccurring negative thoughts. it might be time to talk to your doctors for some help. Good luck.
Does everyone you disagree with have to go doctors?

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:57 am

Tribesmen wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:49 am
Hey not sure who was MOTM but the San M keeper had a great game .
FootMob scored him at 6.2

Pope was 6.7 🤔

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:33 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:22 am
I wish Southgate would drop off the face of the earth, but sadly even if he went the FA would only appoint another in his ilk. As long as football is run by business men instead of football people, we are shafted.
As long as it isn’t Boothroyd. I watched Dwight in the afternoon. A team with Dwight, Hudson-Odoi and Eze came on late. Wonderful crossers and waiting in the middle Nketiah, isolated. What a joke. I felt for all of them.
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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Super Teds » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:41 am

I actually thought we played well! Created loads of chances, lots of sharp quick passing at times and I enjoyed watching it. I thought the tempo was good from the start, pleasantly surprised.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by Siddo » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:07 am

Super Teds wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:41 am
I actually thought we played well! Created loads of chances, lots of sharp quick passing at times and I enjoyed watching it. I thought the tempo was good from the start, pleasantly surprised.
First game for months, but the passing and movement was excellent. It augers well for the future, but we need to remember our potential route to the Euro final; Portugal, France and Germany. Those are the real tests but we also must qualify for the World Cup. I think Wednesday's game against Poland will be a better barometer for us.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:20 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:22 am
I like the way Peps teams play. The problem is no one else has the players to adopt that system. Certainly not England.
A good manager plays to his players strengths, he doesn't try to adopt someone else's.
I wish Southgate would drop off the face of the earth, but sadly even if he went the FA would only appoint another in his ilk. As long as football is run by business men instead of football people, we are shafted.
We probably do have the players to adopt that system, we just don't have a manager capable of implementing it.

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Re: I was hopeful

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:25 am

pushpinpussy wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:50 am
The usual rubbish on here from the usual suspects. A 5-0 win is still not good enough. People who use this message board are so negative and depressive. You need to start changing your pattern thoughts as ive also noticed the negative people are also the ones who fill the board up with their mental health issues. Your lives are impacted by reoccurring negative thoughts. it might be time to talk to your doctors for some help. Good luck.
Consider why you are here then? Sounds like it would be mutually beneficial for all parties if you cleared off.

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