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England v India - 3rd ODI
Can’t see a thread but England 68/3 chasing 330 and Stokes just out.
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Re: England v India - 3rd ODI
Well, its do-able but...
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Good post. Well reminded. Chewbacca dressing gown remaining on. Commandeer remote. Assume couch position.
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Buttler out lbw on review. Now 95/4.
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Good game to win from here, we need a partnership or two however, a baptism of fire for Liam Livingstone, but he coped well in the last game.
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Going to be difficult. We can’t afford to lose any more wickets.
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I agree it's not the RR which is the problem, but the 4 wickets England have down, hence why this pair just need to stick around for half an hour or so and keep the board ticking.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:04 pmGoing to be difficult. We can’t afford to lose any more wickets.
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And a wicket has gone. Poor ball, poor shot.
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Shame LL was going well, it happens so often the rank bad ball gets a wicket, a lot on this pair's shoulders now.
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And another gone 168/6 and all but over
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That covers 85% of white ball dismissals.
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Good fifty by Malan, but really he needed to bat through and get a ton.
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A chance to see if picking half decent bowlers who can bat is actually worth it.
Or the older fashioned view of picking your best bowlers?
Or the older fashioned view of picking your best bowlers?
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Indeed! and if England can bat their 50 overs, then this may still be close, the bowling is a problem area I think we can all agree, so I suppose it makes sense to pack your batting and back yourselves to chase large totals, which England did do in the 2nd ODI.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:34 pmA chance to see if picking half decent bowlers who can bat is actually worth it.
Or the older fashioned view of picking your best bowlers?
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200/7 - Moeen gone
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Hmm! have England judged this chase correctly, I'm all for being positive, but there's a thin line between positive and reckless, and England could be bowled out in under 40 overs here.
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Being positive and keeping up with the rate but 7 wickets down with over 20 overs remaining.
Every time I think we are recovering we lose a wicket.
Currently need 93 from 88 balls but it’s that wicket column that’s the major concern.
Every time I think we are recovering we lose a wicket.
Currently need 93 from 88 balls but it’s that wicket column that’s the major concern.
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Exactly that, I’m all for attack as it’s made us the best team in the world, there’s times though when you don’t need to do it, fine line.
If we tap about and lose wickets, it leaves us short anyway
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Sam Curran and Rashid keeping this interesting at least. Curran survives a review, India have none remaining now, could that be important.
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Rashid gone but it’s a brilliant catch from Kohli
257/8
257/8
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Tough ask for the tail now, but if England can take it too the last 3/4 overs who knows.
Great catch from Kohli, and that could be the decisive moment.
Great catch from Kohli, and that could be the decisive moment.
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After 168/6 and 200/7 we’ve done better than I thought we would.
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Key over by Bhuvneshwar just 1 off it, he's going to be tough to get away.
Whatever the outcome Sam Curran has surely cemented his place in this side now.
Whatever the outcome Sam Curran has surely cemented his place in this side now.
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Tight now - 18 from 10 balls
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3 runs from 2 balls with 2 dropped catches
15 from 8
15 from 8
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Despite the drops it was a good over for India.
14 needed from the last over. Curran on strike and 90*.
14 needed from the last over. Curran on strike and 90*.
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13 off 5 but Wood run out and Topley on strike
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Lost by 7 runs - great effort from the lower order
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Unlucky Sam Curran he at least kept India honest, but they just held their nerve in the end.
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Good game, good series
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If you add on all the singles that Curran turned down because he wanted to retain the strike, we could have won that.
Unless the batsman at the other end is a complete rabbit, which Wood isn't, in a tight finish like that you should take every run available.
Unless the batsman at the other end is a complete rabbit, which Wood isn't, in a tight finish like that you should take every run available.
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On the flip side of that though, you’d have to take away the scoring shots that followed. Decent game management from Curran to get close.lakedistrictclaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:20 pmIf you add on all the singles that Curran turned down because he wanted to retain the strike, we could have won that.
Unless the batsman at the other end is a complete rabbit, which Wood isn't, in a tight finish like that you should take every run available.
I wouldn’t like to have a big sum on Indi if they were right under pressure.... I suspect the stuff you saw late on is why they’ve the record of going out in Seni Finals that they do.
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Joe Root in the side would have made a difference to the series.
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True! and Eoin Morgan, even though England lost in all 3 formats there are plenty of positives to take out of this tour.Vino blanco wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:59 pmJoe Root in the side would have made a difference to the series.
Sam Curran and Liam Livingstone look the real deal in white ball cricket, Bairstow and Roy showed why they are still highly rated in this format.
And ultimately in both limited over series the difference was a handful of runs, so on that evidence you can see why England & India are rated 1 & 2 in the world right now.
In the tests not quite as many pluses, but Root scored heavily, Lawrence looked composed during his time in the middle, and Leach and Stokes both contributed throughout.
And losing in India to this Indian team is no disgrace, there's a reason why they've won twice in Australia recently, and that's the fact they boast several world class players all playing at the peak of their powers, England aren't yet at that level, certainly not in test cricket anyway, but there is hopeful signs that in the coming years England can once again become an international force in the longer format of the game.
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Curran played very well with luck on his side, but he shouldn't be turning singles down to keep the strike. He miscalculated and that was the difference in going close and winning.dandeclaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:22 pmOn the flip side of that though, you’d have to take away the scoring shots that followed. Decent game management from Curran to get close.
It also ruins the confidence of the batsman at the other end that you just can't do when there's only 2 wickets left. Wood seemed all over the place by the end. He didn't know when to run or not.
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His turning down of singles and scoring some boundaries are what got them close. Turned down 4 or 5 singles, some consecutively and scored 3 boundaries after that.
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Don't agree with it being a miscalculation - the only problem they had was the running but I think it was the right decision for Curran to take as much of the bowling as he could.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:31 pmCurran played very well with luck on his side, but he shouldn't be turning singles down to keep the strike. He miscalculated and that was the difference in going close and winning.
It also ruins the confidence of the batsman at the other end that you just can't do when there's only 2 wickets left. Wood seemed all over the place by the end. He didn't know when to run or not.
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Agreed Curran had to farm the strike but was not helped by Wood’s skittish running!
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How anyone can apportion blame for England's defeat on Curran's shoulders beats me, he did all that he could in difficult circumstances, and almost got England over the line when a heavy defeat looked assured.
India bowled really well at the death, and over the series just had the edge, Pant was a major difference between the 2 sides, and England's bowling is a worry.
India bowled really well at the death, and over the series just had the edge, Pant was a major difference between the 2 sides, and England's bowling is a worry.
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Nobody is blaming him for the defeat, just commenting on how he could have won it.tiger76 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:20 pmHow anyone can apportion blame for England's defeat on Curran's shoulders beats me, he did all that he could in difficult circumstances, and almost got England over the line when a heavy defeat looked assured.
India bowled really well at the death, and over the series just had the edge, Pant was a major difference between the 2 sides, and England's bowling is a worry.
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Fair enough, of course he could have taken the singles, and then Wood and Topley could have easily been dismissed, and this highlights why wickets in hand is so important in this format, England were never really behind the RR yesterday, but the constant wickets killed us, and if a lower order batsman had been able to keep Curran company until the final few overs, then England would probably have won fairly easily, as happened in the 2nd ODI when chasing a similar total.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:50 pmNobody is blaming him for the defeat, just commenting on how he could have won it.
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By potentially exposing Wood and then Topley to more of the bowling?Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:50 pmNobody is blaming him for the defeat, just commenting on how he could have won it.
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Wood has a test match 50. I think he could handle a few more medium pace bowlers on a flat deck.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:02 pmBy potentially exposing Wood and then Topley to more of the bowling?
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England held a massive advantage in this series of matches in India by winning the toss on almost every occasion. Our national media would have gone into meltdown if the tosses of the coin had gone the other way.
Very surprised Kohli didn't come out for the toss wearing his pads given the number of times he called it wrong.
Very surprised Kohli didn't come out for the toss wearing his pads given the number of times he called it wrong.
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Maybe he could, maybe he couldn't but the plan from coach and captain was clearly for Curran to take the bowling, and that's a decision I find hard to disagree with whether he's hit a test match 50 or not.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:17 pmWood has a test match 50. I think he could handle a few more medium pace bowlers on a flat deck.